August NRC meeting update - APR's in a CWD Zone and Antlerless Harvest

Discussion in 'Whitetail Deer Disease' started by motdean, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. jr28schalm

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    What we fighting about today?
     
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  2. Waif

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    Oh Deer!
     

  3. flinchjerk

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    Nothing too serious apparently as the thread is still open.
     
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  4. RF Pro

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    That one is going to be very tough to do. The DMU's changed significantly from 2017 season to 2018 season. You could probably figure the remainder of the CWD Zone minus Montcalm, Newaygo, and Kent though. Just an FYI. I can't see it being anywhere near 94% though.
     
  5. jr28schalm

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    I thought they hit a certain number before they closed them..lol
     
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  6. stickbow shooter

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    That's only for certain members :16suspect
     
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  7. Joe Archer

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    Evaluating the impact of APR's on doe harvest in the CWD management zone is just blowin' smoke anyway. CWD will exists in this area forever now... there's no going back.
    What those outside the zone should focus on and find alarming is the approximate 5000 bucks that are predicted to be spared in the process.
    We know that about 3750 or so of those yearling will disperse. The prevalence in this age group is already been shown to be equivalent to the adult doe population.
    Bottom line, if you border the test area you can expect that CWD will take root in your area very soon. There will be no getting rid of it .. .ever.
    When managing a 100% fatal disease, the priority should always be CONTAINMENT! Just ask the CDC.
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  8. motdean

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    That is exactly my concern. I hunt on the edge of it now. I am confident that is why my passion on this topic is what it is.
     
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  9. Waif

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    Dispersal following greater doe reduction might fluctuate along with recruitment IF coyote numbers fall with doe and fawn numbers.
    Or , coyote will just range farther.
    Coyotes have been a major fawn mortality factor where I hunt.
    Neighbors and I have the same trapper.
    Estimated fawn kills the year a coyote den was found on the neighboring property (starting the trapping/calling) was in the upper teens.
    That's more than last years total deer count on combined neighboring properties , beyond just our two.
    So IF we take out a half dozen doe by one kill each by half the dozen hunters and halve the doe herd , and coyotes continue depredation...We might be hoping for dispersal (against the states C.W.D. plan) to bring in a wandering buck. (!)
     
  10. sniper

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    They do, but if they erase a bunch of posts it takes longer to get to that number.


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  11. Dish7

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    Silly Waif, you know bucks never disperse into or within a core area, always straight out. Then again that point of view may depend on whether you're for or against APRs, lol. ;)
     
  12. Joe Archer

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    ..... or whether you are in a CWD zone, or bordering one? ;)
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  13. Dish7

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    Aren't we all?
     
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  14. mbrewer

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    I know Waif, it's hard to measure or attribute change to one change among many. Probably why they simplified the measurement to percentage of harvest.
     
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    I'll go back and check it again when I get a chance.