a couple failures

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  1. Baybum

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    You had plenty of force behind the shot to do the job. Hit shoulder or leg bone and funny things are going to happen. Bolt and broadhead were not the problem.

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  2. o_mykiss

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    Yep, but the 2nd shot was back. We're talking about the first shot.

    OP clearly states in post 3 that
    There's only one hole near the shoulder, and it ain't in a place where it should hit the spine, nor is it high, nor is it thru the scapula

    There's no entrance hole that should produce a spine hit from shooting on a quartering away deer from 20 feet above it, unless there was some crazy deflection or intense string jumping

    So... until OP clarifies, it's a bit of a mystery
     
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  3. Skinner 2

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    Ok can see it that way now as well. I agree that hole if entrance isn't spine location...
     
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  4. textox

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    Did it ,read post #17,no pissing match but you may have missed it.
     
  5. Skinner 2

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    No pissing match trying to figure this out as well. What post is 17 my phone doesnt tell me. Lol

    Darn phone will not allow me to zoom in on specific areas. Grrrrt
     
  6. wildcoy73

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    Arrow/broadhead is in opposite leg or threw the deer. Bolt broke and movement of the deer moved remaining part of bolt towards the spine.
    Hitting bone is why he heard the 2x4 sound.

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  7. Skinner 2

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    Agree heavy crack hard bone.

    I cannot spot a high shoulder hit from my phone. Lightfoot can you help us out here perhaps and edit photo showing hits 1 and 2?
     
  8. Lightfoot

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    Long cold day with no sleep followed by an adrenaline surge. I took another look at it. The first arrow missed the spine but a blade may have clipped it, then went between ribs on the off side and exited the ribcage, barely punching into the opposite leg. He may have pushed back and turned at the shot making it less quartering and more broadside, escape was behind him, or my recollection is going south. A double lung was the intent, which I was too far forward.

    I could not find it in the leg and spent 20 minutes looking where the deer went down. There is not a lot of ground cover right there, I'm guessing that broadhead is in the offside upper leg? Somewhere on the ground? I'll butcher it in a couple of days and know for sure then.

    The shaft had a fairly clean brake to it behind the insert. I assume the broadhead is still attached to it. The vast majority of a broken off arrow sticking out the entrance side threw me. Columbo I am not.

    Still odd the way it went down like a total spine shot. Phone pic to follow.
     
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  9. Lightfoot

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    Entry, pass through.. o 20201030_182355.jpg 20201030_181429.jpg 20201030_182557.jpg pposite side
     
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  10. wildcoy73

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    Your first photo and second photo don't match up. That low of a hit from a tree stand don't go high into the spine.
    That has me baffled.
    Was the deer maybe shot before hand?
    I have done that.
    Shot a big doe, looked as if someone dumped a 5 gallon pail of red paint at hit sight. Deer showed no sign of being hit.
    But found two blood trail, one was weak coming in, and other heavy going away.
    Well started to gut the deer 45 minutes after the hit.
    2 guys are walking down the trail she came in on. They start yelling that I am stealing his deer.
    I just lol and show them where I shot her. They than tell me than been tracking her for a mile.
    They than look sad and say guess its your deer. I talk a bit more and find it is the guys first year bowhunting and his shot was high and just nicked a lung.
    I look over and ask where they are parked.
    Than tell them they owe me a beer for gutting his deer and assisting in the drag to my truck and than bringing the deer to his.

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  11. Lightfoot

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    Aim small, miss small. I was aiming at a little indentation high on the shoulder that later turned out to be an old arrow wound....um, no. I'll agree the angle of the arrows path looks odd. The bucks problem, I was using a micro suppressor and not a Matrix, so Mr. Anderson was out of his element, but he tried. :D
     
  12. Trophy Specialist

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    I dont see a high shoulder wound in the photo. Please point to the entrance hole for the first shot.
     
  13. Waif

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    Stabbing with a long handled knife.
    Hitting bone can cause deflection.
    Yet you still got straight through the rear of the brisket. No spine involved.

    Leg swing , or leverage caused by leg swing might be why your arrow sheared.
    I had a rear brisket hit where the first swing of nearside leg (entrance side) sheared arrow shaft.
    The way your pictured shaft is through the deer , it was secure enough to shear off from that exit side leg. Plus the other leg was working the shaft...
     
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  14. Skinner 2

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    The circled area is.much more elbow vs shoulder. You were not high in the least bit. Just too far forward with the angle.

    Think Waif discribed things pretty good. Hitting both legs, shoulders, or shocking the spine can drop them right down. Sometimes after the shock wears off they can get up and cover a lot of ground.

    Congrats on a fine buck.
     
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