28% increase in Hunters in 2020

Discussion in 'General Michigan Hunting' started by Jacob Stanfill, Oct 13, 2020.

  1. GVDocHoliday

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    Rec Passport is State Park Funding only....that money stays 100% with state parks and is not available for any other division to use.
     
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    Wait to see the bay this year if we have safe ice. Ya got covid and 2 major lake systems now gone. She gonna get crowded at the access points mark my word.

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  3. 22 Chuck

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    So why is there talk of "reduced funding" since this is petty much new money and expands every so often to keep up, somewhat perhaps, w/ expenses(salaries/retirement). Maybe costs etc are growing faster...
     
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    The State general fund provides a portion of the DNRs budget. State funding has been reduced. To my knowledge there has not been a press release on how much more or less the DNR has received than 2019.
     
  5. jiggin is livin

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    If we have a good ice year, there are plenty of places to park on the ice. It isn't really a problem those years as you have basically unlimited parking. It is the iffy years that suck.

    But, I don't feel bad. The assshats that live in those areas bitch about it, get the access blocked and then people park in their yards. It serves them right. They make a stupid decision, they should have to live with the consequences.
     
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  6. DirtySteve

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    Budgets were set for this year last year. Its the way govt works. Any income gains from this year will be considered in next years budget. Most likely our dollars will help our cause but general fund dollars will go down most likely.

    At the beginning of this year the state suffered financial issues with covid. Alot of things that were set in our budget for this by legislature were taken away.
     
  7. GVDocHoliday

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    What are you talking about? The State Park Rec Passport, as well as camping fees and land use permit fees from using State Parks, all goes to State Parks and set's the following year's budget for State Parks, which includes all Park Employees from top to bottom. Some of that funding is available for other park municipalities through grant applications and the percentage of which is available for that is set through the Legislation that established the Rec Passport in 2010.

    Now as to your question, as to why there is talk of reduced funding within I can only assume is State Parks. State Parks, with the exception of Belle Isle, is 100% self funded. Hunting/Fishing/Timber/Mining/Tax Dollars/Etc...none of that goes to State Parks. State Parks took a pretty good hit on projected FY21 budget because all 100+ state parks, countless State Forest Campgrounds, Harbors, etc were closed to camping and were not collecting passports at the parks from the end of March through June 22nd. Typically on Memorial day all PRD Managed campsites are at 99%+ capacity. That's roughly 20-25% of parks annual Revenue.

    Now a large chunk of that was made up the last part of the season due to record usage throughout all PRD Managed sites. State Parks is in very good shape, primarily because it's funding source is not available for any other state division to access. On top of that Parks as the Park Endowment fund...which is a very, very, very large rainy day fund.
     
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    What good is a debate without some facts.


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  9. Trophy Specialist

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    Just heard Chad Strwart say on the radio that deer hunter numbers are going to be up 10 to 11 percent.
     
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    When it rebounds next year with the typical 3-4% decline...They'll be sounding the alarm like crazy.
     
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    I just heard on the radio that it was now u 7 to 8 percent. My guess is that their 11/14 license sales system failure cost them a few percentage points.
     
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    Idk where they all hunted at, but there wasn’t an increase anywhere I hunted this year. In fact, most places seemed to be less.
     
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    Probably mostly bored wanna be hunters that never went out or maybe a couple times purchased this year they most likely will be gone next year .
     
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  14. TriggerDiscipline

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    My area is more busy than I’ve seen since the 80’s.