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.270 or 7mm-08

Discussion in 'Rifles' started by weatherby, Jan 11, 2018.

  1. weatherby

    weatherby

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    I am looking to buy the kids their own gun this year. Presently they both shoot the same .243 but are looking for something a tab bit bigger to eventually use on different game than white tails. I am partial to the .270 but my mind tells me 7mm-08 due to less kick and short action. The gun will not have over a 22" barrel and will be 6-7# rifle with scope. I do not want it ported but will think about a after market recoil pad if needed to lessen the kick. Anyone had the dilemma before? And yes I do tend to overthink these type of things. Tanxs ahead of time.
     
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  2. bowhunter426

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    What bigger game would you be going after? Both are good calibers. I prefer 270. Wouldn't hesitate to shoot any animal in Michigan with one
     
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  3. 357Maximum

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    It don't matter, a deer will never feel the difference. With the bullets we have available today, the .270 will take any animal that walks this continent as will the 7-08. It truly is a Ford/Chevy/Dodge Blond/Brunette/Redhead type of question. If you are not a handloader .270 wins in availability and price of ammo hands down though.
     
  4. jmoser

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    A .243 with 100 gr bullets will do almost everything a 7-08 or .270 will on medium game.
    I would vote for the 7-08 due to short action vs long in a lightweight 22" rifle.
    And recoil will be a bit less too.

    In todays world don't discount a 6.5 Creedmore; its almost identical to a .260 Remington with hunting bullets and there are a wide array of new rifles and ammo. [BTW the .260 is a 6.5-08; really.]

    FIY .243 [AKA 6-08] and 7-08 both based on .308 parent case; as is .260 Remington [AKA 6.5-08.] .270 is a necked down 30-06. .270 burns a bit more powder as a result.
     
  5. Old Shortstop

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    7mm-08 is a great Michigan caliber and beyond. My brother and I have both shot a bunch of critters with one. He took a 168 inch, 250+ lb. whitetail in Saskatchewan with his Model 7 and a 130 Barnes X bullet. He also lived in Wyoming for 35 years and a number of friends took antelope, whitetails, mulies and elk with his handloads. We both handload and I can get a 140 grain bullet within 40 fps of a .270, all in a short action. It is a great round.

    D.P.
     
  6. Sasquatch Lives

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    Agree with all the posts. I am a huge .270 fan and my kids shoot a .243 which I have been very impressed with too. You cannot go wrong with any of those calibers. I tend to overthink things too but ended up buying my 13 yr. old daughter a Ruger American .243. Since it is a compact model it has a little more kick than I expected BUT it has a super recoil pad. The same gun in a full size model has a little less kick IMO probably due to more weight.
     
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    They are both great rounds.
     
  8. Martin Looker

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    243 does not leave much of an exit wound compared to either of the other two rifles.
     
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    Of the 270 or 7mm-08, I would chose the 7mm-08. Then we have the 308 the too.
     
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    This should probably be your most significant consideration.
     
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    I bought the .270, my boy is tall and I also bought the reduced recoil ammo when he was a little smaller, which worked fine. I also thought about the ammo. This gun will serve him well for many years.
     
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    The .270 Win round has one of the harshest felt recoil tags among the centerfires. A 7mm-08 is slightly ballistically superior, a bit harder to get ammunition for in rural areas, and a very soft shooting round, which would get my nod. I have two .270 Winchesters; shoot them both, but don't lust to shoot either of them. A .25-06 is also a nice choice.
     
  13. Brian Berg

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    I love my 270. It loves Nosler Accubonds and Ballistic Tips. The 130gr bullets are nearly identical in flight. I just change the POI for each. BT on deer, and the AB on most everything in the US. MPBR is good out to 330 yards or so. The nice thing with the 270 you can load them hot with the large case capacity and easily reach 3100fps. Its a Remmy 700 SPS glasbedded in a Hogue full aluminum rubber stock.
     
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    Ejecta mass, velocity, and weight of the rifle are all part of the recoil equation. As much as it seems so, ballistics superiority opinion is just that and has ZERO basis on simple physics. Saying a 28-08 and a 25-06 is nice but, but the 27-06 is somehow not.....now that is some reasoning that is tough to wrap ones head around right there. To a deer standing 0-300 yards away I am sure they all pretty much seem identical. :lol:
     
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    The number speak for themselves:
    .270 Win. (130 at 3140fps) 8.0# rifle= 16.5 foot pounds of recoil

    .25-06 Rem. (120 at 3000fps ) 8.0# rifle= 12.5 foot pounds of recoil

    7mm-08 Rem. (140 at 2860fps ) 8.0# rifle = 12.6 foot pounds of recoil


    all of which are far less than say... a 30-06;
    .30-06 Spfd. (165 at 2900fps ) 8.0# rifle =20.1foot pounds of recoil


    http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm