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07-26-2004, 12:59 PM
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Cock Feather Positioning - Drop Aways
I had a Muzzy Zero Effect arrow rest installed on my bow last year. The guy set it up with the 5" cock feather in the down position, (I purchased some arrows from him at the same time), and I wondered if this setup was correct, and not just a holdover from the prong rest methodology.
The bow has shot fine with the cock feather down. Since then, I have observed folks with drop-away type rests that aligned their feathers/vanes differently than mine, and was told by one fellow that rest clearance was better with the cock feather in "up" position.
Who can shed some light on this?
Hey, and no smartass remarks, Neal.
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07-26-2004, 01:10 PM
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I'm not formiliar with that rest but just by looking at it and reading alittle on it you are alright.
The Drop Aways on the market are made so there is no interference with any of the vanes or feather with the rest.
I assume you are shooting aluminum arrows with uni bushing nocks or carbon arrows. If so just turn a few of the nocks and see if it makes a difference for ya.
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07-26-2004, 01:15 PM
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If you have the clearance it should be irrelavent. I shot the MZE on Bowtech Mighty Mite (Notorious for having very little cable movement) and it didn't matter which way the cock vane was.
I DO shoot cock vane up on my Trophy Taker...not because it doesn't get clearance but because I'm kind of anal about it.
You will get better clearance from a cock vane up position with most prong style drop aways though.
Have yo ever Powder tested the arrow to make SURE your not hiting the feathers or vanes on the way out? If you are the cock vane UP may help.
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07-26-2004, 01:23 PM
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I have had some porblems with my cock feather hitting the bow shelf. I turned my cock fether out with my drop away. That way I get cable clearance and shelf clearance. Trushot how do you do a powder test?
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07-26-2004, 01:25 PM
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Spray the white foot powder along the shaft and fletch and shoot it. Any contact will rub it off and you'll know if you have any contact issues. Washes off easily when your done.
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07-27-2004, 07:48 AM
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Essentially, if the fall away is "timed" correctly (independent of what fall away it is) the cock feather position should not matter (all of my vanes are the same color so I never have a clue as what is the cock feather). The whole concept behind the fall away is to get the obstruction/friction out of the way of the arrow and vanes for an unobstructed release. I am shooting a "converted" Mathews fall away sort of like the Schaffer and had to ensure the timing was correct for good clearance and arrow flight. So in a nutshell, make sure the thing gets out of the way in time. Thats my 2 cents.
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07-27-2004, 08:02 AM
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You really don't have a problem here. I shoot cock fletching up just because hey, that's 3/8 of an inch less fletch I have to worry about making contact. If you are set for cock fletch down, just turn your arrows 180 degrees and shoot a few cock fletch up to see how it goes for you.
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08-18-2004, 08:07 AM
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Another Thought
I have noticed in my Trophy Taker that when I shoot the cock feather down using 4" vanes, I see some rubbing on the arrow cradle that looks like it may have been rubbed a few times. I switched the cock feather to the up position to get rid of that problem.
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08-18-2004, 08:33 AM
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I have the TKO on my new AR34. I like having the forks turned up to cradle the arrow but because of this, I have to shoot cock feather down otherwise my other two vanes hit the forks. I have no problems with the cock vane down though. Every set up will be different.
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