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Old 07-21-2004, 11:15 AM
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Deer Drop Away

I have the Hoyt Vortec 2001 model and I'm still shooting aluminums and have no imediate plans of switching to carbons. The bow still shoots nice after year round shooting for the last few years, but my question relates to the arrow rest, I was looking at upgrading to a drop away rest and noticed that there are quite a few different models to choose from. I would like to know what good/bad experiences you have had with the rest. Is the cable design better than other designs etc...


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Old 07-21-2004, 11:37 AM
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I have a Trophy Taker Shaky Hunter on my UltraTec and I am very happy with it. It's the only drop away I have experience with so I can't give any comparisons. There are lots of different designs, some simple, some not so simple. The Trophy Taker is no technical marvel for sure, just simple and rock solid. It uses a string attached to the cable. It was easy to set up and tune and works like advertised. I'm completely sold on drop away rests now, but I was a bit hesitant at first. Moving parts on bow accessories normally don't do anything for me, I like simplicity for the most part. I originally wanted a Whisker Biscuit but it was 50/50 like-dislike among those that had them so I stayed away. Those that love them though, really love them so they work as well. I know some that have the Trophy Ridge Drop Zone, and like it, but it has more internal moving parts that I just don't trust, plus it was $40 more than my Shaky Hunter.
Once you find one you like, I don't think you'll be dissapointed.
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Old 07-21-2004, 11:44 AM
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Muzzy Zero effect very quite very robust no little strings to were out or break! i know most wont shoot enough to break the cord, but last season i watched a buddy of mine break his while walking through the woods it actually snaged and broke ( dont ask me how)
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:13 PM
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i also have a zero effect rest. I absolutley love it. No problems. Perfect arrow flight.
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Old 07-21-2004, 12:27 PM
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I have shot the Muzzy Zero Effect, Trohpy Taker Shakey Hunter, and the Drop Zone. All worked fine. For the price and ease of setup, I would vote for the Trophy Taker. Very rugged, simple, and effective.

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Old 07-21-2004, 01:03 PM
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I just got back from the archery shop at lunch. I was all set to get me a fall away rest until the guy at the shop told me the only draw back to those rest are, if you start to draw back on a deer and then let up, the rest will fall down. I know to some that might sound like a big deal but I had a few occassions last year when I had to let up on my draw. With my luck it would happen with an opportunity at a big buck. I chickened out and kept my two prong rest and just bought new tips. I guess I like to keep it as simple as I can.
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Old 07-21-2004, 01:04 PM
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None of the dropaways that I setup made any noise when letting down. Perhaps they did not have moleskin on the riser where the rest contacted??

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What One Eye said! Thats not a drawback with proper set up. I have a rubber arrow holder on my riser shelf as well that holds the arrow in place. I can hold my bow horizontal and the arrow will not fall off.
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What the hell kind of shop is that! i have let up on a few nice deer and never had an issue, sounds like he just doesnt like them, your movement will be the issue not the arrow rest or arrow, go back take it back and get the drop away, tell him to let you worry about it
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I am not sure why he would tell me that because I was all set to spend the $65 to buy it. I forget the brand he had. It was the only one he had that would work on my bow, I have a low cable guard. I am new to these fall aways, so I just took his word for it. Not only did he lose my $65 my buddy that was with me got turned off of them also. If thats not the case maybe I will get one after all.
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Wow, i just got back from lunch and I had to take some extra time to read through the replies. Thanks for suggestions.

Deputy-I stopped by a local archery shop and while i was there I had a similar experience to what Outdooralex had. I spoke to 2 different reps independently on the subject and one couldn't give me much info, and told me to stay with what I had, the other basically told me there wasn't much difference except the price. I have always recieved great help from the shop, but this time, I don't think either person much experience with these style rests.

I wasn't sure what would happen if I had to let off, would the rest drop?

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The majority of the drop aways out there work from your cables. Whether it's in some way affixed to the slide, a rope attached to the down cable itself most use some moving part already inherent in the bow. (trap door excluded)

So if you let down easy....the rest lets down easily as well.
NAP2000, 4000, Muzzy, Trophy Taker, Drop Zone, Rip cord....all the same.

I would be more concerened about the rest making noise from a normal arrow release without it set up with a holder, foam or moleskin or something. You can ease it down from full draw; when you shoot the thing is when it's going to be loudest.
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My Trophy Taker has moleskin on the actual launcher and on my riser. If I let off slowly, (as Trushot mentions) the arrow and the rest slowly go down against the risor. Even if I abruptly let down it's still quiet. My bow is already is very quiet at the shot so the drop away does not caue any problem here either. My whole sight window and arrow shelf is moleskin, except where I have the rubber arrow holder, so there is not chance my arrow will make anynoise upon letting down unless if falls off the string.....if that happens your SOL anyway.
If you are uncertain, get to tha range(s) and find some guys with drop aways...shouldn't be too difficult, as almost everybody I know that as made changes in there set up in the last two years have all gone to drop aways.
I'm sure there would be plenty of guys willing to demonstrate the brand they have.
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I was out taking a look at a few of the rests and found the Ultra-Rest by Quality Archery Designs. Here is a link to the site. http://www.qadinc.com/ultra-rest.htm
This weekend, I will take a look at a few of the other rests that were mentioned and maybe get a chance to shoot a bow with one installed. Any excuse to get out and shoot!

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Looks interesting, but looks like it has lots of internal parts to cock etc, but maybe not. One question I have about it is once you pull back and it is "cocked" can you still let down without the the rest dropping fully, leaving your arrow unsupported?
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