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07-19-2004, 05:54 PM
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Concept Archery 99% let-off
Just looking at doc's sig and looked up Concept Archery. What in the heck is 99% let-off like? Like holding only the weight of your bow? Must be nice really. I had a McPherson that had 80% and it was pretty cool because it was like holding 15lbs at full draw. bow shot like crap otherwise, but nice to only hold 15lbs.
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07-19-2004, 06:02 PM
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Some of the hard Core Oneida guys can get theirs to that point as well. I watched one guy bring it to full draw...let his bow arm down completely and the bow hung (at full draw) by the string.
I find that it's easier to hold my bow arm steady when I apply pressure from the string end...that's why I prefer a 65% letoff. I always wonder about the "slop" in the valley of those bows but he's winning so what do I know.
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07-19-2004, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Banditto
bow shot like crap otherwise, but nice to only hold 15lbs.
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07-19-2004, 06:26 PM
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Can you say --------??? Oh never mind. That subject is already on another thread.
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07-19-2004, 08:07 PM
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enlighten me One-eye, what are you talking about?
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07-19-2004, 09:14 PM
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Whoo whoo...I know my bow shoots like a dream...ask any of those Oneida shooters who I whooped up on this past weekend  They told me that since I wasn't shooting an Oneida that I wasn't eligable for the prizes...I told them, "well that don't matter, but when you look at the scores my name will still be at the top." They actually liked that reply and accepted me into their cult. Anywho, I won a Pollington red dot scope and mounting hardware...don't know what I'm gonna do with it yet, but I'll think of something.
I also won the Michigan IBO State Championship this year with my Concept, and finished in the top 25th percentil in the National IBO Triple Crown. My bow will do anything but shoot crappy...I love it, and I don't just say that because I'm on their shooting staff...I owned my Concept a few months before I was accepted. It's a simple, solid, no frills piece of equipment with the industry leading barnsdale laminated limbs, winners choice strings and cables stock, and the riser and limb pockets are one solid piece of aluminum milled from a solid block of T6061 aluminum...which means less parts, less connections, and less chance of failure.
It's just a bow you have to shoot to believe...you'd think that holding less than a pound at full draw would make the string co limp...WRONG! You don't even realize the high letoff until you go to let down...or should I say try to let down, you have to kinda push pull to let it down. There is no creep at all and the back wall is solid, I do mean solid, no slop at all and that's what I like most about it...when you can have a conistent draw a bow will be more consistent accuracy wise.
If you all have any questions on this bow don't be afraid to ask.
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07-19-2004, 09:26 PM
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What let off are you shooting doc, or have you shot the 99%?
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07-19-2004, 09:36 PM
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I'm shooting the 99% let off. Mainly for the solid backwall and no creep...and it's what Paul Mykut(owner of concept archery) wants us to shoot...you know, real life advertisment.
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07-19-2004, 11:15 PM
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How much does one of these Concepts bows set one back?
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07-19-2004, 11:17 PM
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Man I would like to see one of those. Sounds like a cool setup. Would be helpful for people with certain types of shoulder problems too.
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07-19-2004, 11:27 PM
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It'll set you back 650.00. However, they have the best limbs in the industry and winners choices strings and cables stock...this is where the high price comes from. But it is well worth it to know that your limbs are literally the best, as well as not having to worry about strings strech or peep rotation.
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07-19-2004, 11:42 PM
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Bryan so you shoot the Concept99 or the P50? Concept99 right? That price is not unreasonable at all... you look at any of the big 10 bow manufacturers and they are all 600+
How is the center shot and knock travel on the Concept99?
How do they work the solid wall? a pin on the cam? How much shelf does it have between the peak draw weight and the let-off (in distance)? I hate most of the new radical cams that give you .5" between high weight and let-off, where you relax a bit while you are finding your target and almost lose it.
Actually as much as I hate the really short bows, I bet that 32 would be fun being the let-off is so high.
Thanks for the info too
Oh and I got to thinking about that old McPherson I owned, it was 85% letoff and I know what you mean about having to bump it into the torque to let it down. You almost would scare yourself trying to let it down.
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07-19-2004, 11:52 PM
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They achieve it by a grooved axle. Once you get into the valley, there is no creep or slop. Relax all you want, as long as you're pulling enough pressure to hold a lb of weight you won't lose it. I don't worry about that because I shoot with a back tension release and I pull really hard against that back wall and it doesn't budge. Tiller is good, I love the big wide grooved idler wheel, center shot is good, and I can't really comment on nock travel for I have no means to measure it at the moment. I will say that my nocking point is barely 1/8 above sqaure. Here's a pic with me a Claude Pollington at the shoot at Buck Pole Ranch this past weekend:
http://members5.boardhost.com/c.p.oneida/msg/32280.html
Won me a new pollington red dot scope and mounting bracket.
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07-20-2004, 04:21 PM
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Neat pic. I love my Pollington 33.
What is that chest support your wearing? and Batmans utility belt when shooting. nobody else is wearing that much gear while shooting. Shouldn't wearing ballist be considered cheating?
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07-20-2004, 04:29 PM
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That's no cheating...my bony **** needs some extra ballist...I'm the one at the dissadvantage
What you see around my back is my binocular strap...around my waist is my...well...utility belt. It's a camo fanny pack with a hip-quiver added on. In it I keep bow string wax, bug spray, extra nocks, extra points, two sets of allen wrenches, scoring index cards, a few pens and pencils, a leatherman tool, a lighter, spare fiber optic material, spare d-loop material, and dental floss. OH YEAH, and an arrow lube tube to make my arrows pull out of the target better.
And a couple of spare releases because you never know when the one you're using is going to crap out on you.
I just thought it was need to get in a picture with Mr. Claude Pollington himself.
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