Unemployment question

[Downriver Tackle]

Thanks for all the answers on my previous post. Have another I cannot find an answer to on the MI website. Maybe someone has an answer or link?

Scenario: Present employer is purchased and dissolved as an entity. Every employee terminated. New owners made an offer to some people to stay on at current salary.

Question: If an employee who was made an offer decided they did not want to hire on with the new owners, and wants to seek employment elsewhere, can they get unemployment compensation until they find work elsewhere, even though they turned down an offer before they filed an unemployment claim?

[diztortion]

Probably not. Well, maybe with a penalty. It would be probably considered a "Voluntary Quit"

[Roosevelt]

I don't think you can turn down work unless it's at a rate much lower than you are currently making. Not sure though.

Regardless, if I was offered to stay on at same pay I would have.

[GVDocHoliday]

You would not be eligible. You're pretty much only eligible if the company goes under, or if you are laid off.

If you are fired from a job, quite a job, or fail to accept a job offer, you are not eligible for UIA Benefits.

[Crow Buster]

Originally Posted by GVDocHoliday

If you are fired from a job, quite a job, or fail to accept a job offer, you are not eligible for UIA Benefits.

I recognize your voice, you must be Marvin.


I also believe the above answer is correct. I assume this person already opened a claim, since everyone was fired by the new company, prior to the new job offer. He/she would be entitled to unemployment compensation during those days off between companies. I would contact the unemp office directly with your question. I found there are some very specific rules for very specific situations now that aren't widely acknowleged or known even within MichWorks. If the person you speak with doesn't seem confident, talk to another. The specifics of your company closing, if it has anything to do with free trade, could change your scenario completely. Good luck!

CB

[jackbob42]

It would depend on the new owners.
If they say you're layed off , you can collect. If they say you refused work , you can't.
Went through it back in '02. The new owners gave some of us the option. Weren't gonna hold it against us either way.

[S.NIEMI]

You cannot Quit, and draw unemployment except in rare circumstances.

[Downriver Tackle]

To clarify a little. The former company was dissolved and ceases to exist. That's why and who terminated all of us. Not the new owners, who are operating under a new name. They made an offer which is not accepted yet.

Trust me, I'm not looking for a free ride. In less than 1 year, the new company is going to be moved out of state, so I'd rather get a secure job now and not have to stress over it for a year or however soon the iminent ax will fall.

Answer still the same? Couldn't get through to the state to ask.

[Newaygo1]

When I quit I had similar questions here is how I got a prompt reply... I used the Governors Contact on the state website and she had it sent to the UIA and someone called me in regards to it. Not sure just how they can trace it back from one company to a new one but these days with computers you never know. So I always follow the rules and ask for the regs on it.

If you can't get thru I would contact them via the Gov and see what you can learn.

Hope something comes your way, these days jobs are few especially good ones...

Newaygo1

[Michihunter]

The employer is no longer in business. The new company(assuming a different tax ID number) would be considered the same as any other company other than your past employer and as such, you would be entitled to unemployment compensation. However, if/when Marvin asks if you have refused work, the "honest" answer would be yes if you do not take the job offer which of course could effect your ability to receive Unemployment.

[portagelaker]

Originally Posted by GVDocHoliday

You would not be eligible. You're pretty much only eligible if the company goes under, or if you are laid off.

If you are fired from a job, quite a job, or fail to accept a job offer, you are not eligible for UIA Benefits.

That language just doesn't seem right. My wife was "laid off", but was in every way fired. She was let go with no possibility of coming back, so how do you decide if she was laid off or fired? I'd probably try to sue the employer if they "fired" me and I didn't get the benefits.

[outdoor_m_i_k_e]

you CAN get benefits most of the time if you are fired. pretty much as long as it wasnt for doing something illegal or negligent(sp?). . but other than that 99% of the time you wil be able to draw. .

[diztortion]

Originally Posted by outdoor_m_i_k_e

you CAN get benefits most of the time if you are fired. pretty much as long as it wasnt for doing something illegal or negligent(sp?). . but other than that 99% of the time you wil be able to draw. .

I think for the most part violence and drug use will disqualify you from benefits. As for other things like being fired for tardiness, I think there could be a penalty. I remember 10 years ago I filled because I quit a job and there was a 6 week penalty. I filed but by the time I was ready to receive benefits, I already had a job.

[Henrik for President]

Originally Posted by portagelaker

That language just doesn't seem right. My wife was "laid off", but was in every way fired. She was let go with no possibility of coming back, so how do you decide if she was laid off or fired? I'd probably try to sue the employer if they "fired" me and I didn't get the benefits.

The other guy misquoted when he said you can't get fired and collect unemployment. You can collect umemployment if you get laid-off, fired, terminated, whatever you want to call it, but your employment must be ended from the employers side. If you initiate the termination of employment, as an employee, you cannot collect benefits.

Also, check about whether you must answer "yes" for "failing to accept a job offer", because you probably don't have to answer "yes" each week if it happened BEFORE your benefits started. Additionally, you only have to answer "yes" for the two weeks you are reporting, nothing prior.

I'm no expert, but this has been my understanding.