Greetings,
i would like to pass a bit of info. not here to argue. have been researching
this for 6 years, and i am interested in
finding the truth. i am not an anti-hunter advocate, just think there
is a lot about TSEs most of you don't
know about. i have pasted a message
below. please read the studies, and
the source of those studies, not neccessarily the boards they are
posted to...
thank you,
kind regards,
terry
Subject: SEWING THE SEEDS OF CWD MAD DEER/ELK THROUGH FEEDING, ESPECIALLY FROM ANIMAL PROTEIN !!!
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:14:16 -0700
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr." <flounder@wt.net>
Reply-To: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy <BSE-L@uni-karlsruhe.de>
To: BSE-L@uni-karlsruhe.de
######## Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy <BSE-L@UNI-KARLSRUHE.DE> #########
CWD AND STUPID SAFETY TIP & COMMENTS TEXAS & SEWING THE SEEDS OF CWD
THROUGH ANIMAL PROTEIN? Houston Chronicle
TDH
CWD is probably not a zoonotic disease. In other words, there is
no evidence that CWD can be passed from infected animal to humans
AND
* Always thoroughly cook meat
http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/zoonosis/diseases/CWD.pdf
http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/zoonosis/
with that said, there is no evidence that it cannot, but
my opinion, there is more evidence it can, that it cannot.
AND if you plan on cooking the TSE agents out of the meat
as implied above, you had better ash it to 1000 degrees celsius.
New studies on the heat resistance of hamster-adapted scrapie agent:
Threshold survival after ashing at 600°C suggests an inorganic template
of replication
Paul Brown*, [dagger ] , Edward H. Rau [Dagger ] , Bruce K. Johnson*,
Alfred E. Bacote*, Clarence J. Gibbs Jr.*, and D. Carleton Gajdusek§
* Laboratory of Central Nervous System Studies, National Institute of
Neurological Disorders and Stroke, and [Dagger ] Environmental
Protection Branch, Division of Safety, Office of Research Services,
National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD 20892; and § Institut Alfred
Fessard, Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique, 91198 Gif sur
Yvette, France
Contributed by D. Carleton Gajdusek, December 22, 1999
One-gram samples from a pool of crude brain tissue from hamsters
infected with the 263K strain of hamster-adapted scrapie agent were
placed in covered quartz-glass crucibles and exposed for either 5 or 15
min to dry heat at temperatures ranging from 150°C to 1,000°C. Residual
infectivity in the treated samples was assayed by the intracerebral
inoculation of dilution series into healthy weanling hamsters, which
were observed for 10 months; disease transmissions were verified by
Western blot testing for proteinase-resistant protein in brains from
clinically positive hamsters. Unheated control tissue contained 9.9
log10LD50/g tissue; after exposure to 150°C, titers equaled or exceeded
6 log10LD50/g, and after exposure to 300°C, titers equaled or exceeded 4
log10LD50/g. Exposure to 600°C completely ashed the brain samples,
which, when reconstituted with saline to their original weights,
transmitted disease to 5 of 35 inoculated hamsters. No transmissions
occurred after exposure to 1,000°C. These results suggest that an
inorganic molecular template with a decomposition point near 600°C is
capable of nucleating the biological replication of the scrapie agent.
snip...
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/97/7/3418
But some scientists advocate stricter measures.
Pierluigi Gambetti, director of the National Prion Disease Pathology
Surveillance Center at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland,
said all deer should be tested for chronic wasting disease before any
processing is done.
"There is no way around it," he said. "Nobody should touch that meat
unless it has been tested."
snip...
also, what is TEXAS stance on feeding deer and CWD risk?
but before that, lets look at a few things;
Oral transmission and early lymphoid tropism of chronic wasting disease
PrPres in mule deer fawns (Odocoileus hemionus )
Christina J. Sigurdson1, Elizabeth S. Williams2, Michael W. Miller3,
Terry R. Spraker1,4, Katherine I. O'Rourke5 and Edward A. Hoover1
Department of Pathology, College of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical
Sciences, Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523- 1671, USA1
Department of Veterinary Sciences, University of Wyoming, 1174 Snowy
Range Road, University of Wyoming, Laramie, WY 82070, USA 2
Colorado Division of Wildlife, Wildlife Research Center, 317 West
Prospect Road, Fort Collins, CO 80526-2097, USA3
Colorado State University Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, 300 West
Drake Road, Fort Collins, CO 80523-1671, USA4
Animal Disease Research Unit, Agricultural Research Service, US
Department of Agriculture, 337 Bustad Hall, Washington State University,
Pullman, WA 99164-7030, USA5
Author for correspondence: Edward Hoover.Fax +1 970 491 0523. e-mail
ehoover@lamar.colostate.edu
Mule deer fawns (Odocoileus hemionus) were inoculated orally with a
brain homogenate prepared from mule deer with naturally occurring
chronic wasting disease (CWD), a prion-induced transmissible spongiform
encephalopathy. Fawns were necropsied and examined for PrP res, the
abnormal prion protein isoform, at 10, 42, 53, 77, 78 and 80 days
post-inoculation (p.i.) using an immunohistochemistry assay modified to
enhance sensitivity. PrPres was detected in alimentary-tract-associated
lymphoid tissues (one or more of the following: retropharyngeal lymph
node, tonsil, Peyer's patch and ileocaecal lymph node) as early as 42
days p.i. and in all fawns examined thereafter (53 to 80 days p.i.). No
PrPres staining was detected in lymphoid tissue of three control fawns
receiving a control brain inoculum, nor was PrPres detectable in neural
tissue of any fawn. PrPres-specific staining was markedly enhanced by
sequential tissue treatment with formic acid, proteinase K and hydrated
autoclaving prior to immunohistochemical staining with monoclonal
antibody F89/160.1.5. These results indicate that CWD PrP res can be
detected in lymphoid tissues draining the alimentary tract within a few
weeks after oral exposure to infectious prions and may reflect the
initial pathway of CWD infection in deer. The rapid infection of deer
fawns following exposure by the most plausible natural route is
consistent with the efficient horizontal transmission of CWD in nature
and enables accelerated studies of transmission and pathogenesis in the
native species.
snip...
These results indicate that mule deer fawns develop detectable PrP res
after oral exposure to an inoculum containing CWD prions. In the
earliest post-exposure period, CWD PrPres was traced to the lymphoid
tissues draining the oral and intestinal mucosa (i.e. the
retropharyngeal lymph nodes, tonsil, ileal Peyer's patches and
ileocaecal lymph nodes), which probably received the highest initial
exposure to the inoculum. Hadlow et al. (1982) demonstrated scrapie
agent in the tonsil, retropharyngeal and mesenteric lymph nodes, ileum
and spleen in a 10-month-old naturally infected lamb by mouse bioassay.
Eight of nine sheep had infectivity in the retropharyngeal lymph node.
He concluded that the tissue distribution suggested primary infection
via the gastrointestinal tract. The tissue distribution of PrPres in the
early stages of infection in the fawns is strikingly similar to that
seen in naturally infected sheep with scrapie. These findings support
oral exposure as a natural route of CWD infection in deer and support
oral inoculation as a reasonable exposure route for experimental studies
of CWD.
snip...
http://vir.sgmjournals.org/cgi/content/full/80/10/2757
now, just what is in that deer feed? _ANIMAL PROTEIN_
Subject: MAD DEER/ELK DISEASE AND POTENTIAL SOURCES
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 18:41:46 -0700
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr." <flounder@wt.net>
Reply-To: BSE-L
To: BSE-L
8420-20.5% Antler Developer
For Deer and Game in the wild
Guaranteed Analysis Ingredients / Products Feeding Directions
snip...
_animal protein_
http://www.surefed.com/deer.htm
BODE'S GAME FEED SUPPLEMENT #400
A RATION FOR DEER
NET WEIGHT 50 POUNDS
22.6 KG.
snip...
_animal protein_
http://www.bodefeed.com/prod7.htm
Ingredients
Grain Products, Plant Protein Products, Processed Grain By-Products,
Forage Products, Roughage Products 15%, Molasses Products,
__Animal Protein Products__,
Monocalcium Phosphate, Dicalcium Pyosphate, Salt,
Calcium Carbonate, Vitamin A Acetate with D-activated Animal Sterol
(source of Vitamin D3), Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement,
Riboflavin Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Calcium Panothenate, Choline
Chloride, Folic Acid, Menadione Soduim Bisulfite Complex, Pyridoxine
Hydorchloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, d-Biotin, Manganous Oxide, Zinc
Oxide, Ferrous Carbonate, Calcium Iodate, Cobalt Carbonate, Dried
Sacchoromyces Berevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Cellulose gum,
Artificial Flavors added.
http://www.bodefeed.com/prod6.htm
===================================
MORE ANIMAL PROTEIN PRODUCTS FOR DEER
Bode's #1 Game Pellets
A RATION FOR DEER
F3153
GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein (Min) 16%
Crude Fat (Min) 2.0%
Crude Fiber (Max) 19%
Calcium (Ca) (Min) 1.25%
Calcium (Ca) (Max) 1.75%
Phosphorus (P) (Min) 1.0%
Salt (Min) .30%
Salt (Max) .70%
Ingredients
Grain Products, Plant Protein Products, Processed Grain By-Products,
Forage Products, Roughage Products, 15% Molasses Products,
__Animal Protein Products__,
Monocalcium Phosphate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Salt,
Calcium Carbonate, Vitamin A Acetate with D-activated Animal Sterol
(source of Vitamin D3) Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement,
Roboflavin Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Choline
Chloride, Folic Acid, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Pyridoxine
Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, e - Biotin, Manganous Oxide, Zinc
Oxide, Ferrous Carbonate, Calcium Iodate, Cobalt Carbonate, Dried
Saccharyomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Cellulose gum,
Artificial Flavors added.
FEEDING DIRECTIONS
Feed as Creep Feed with Normal Diet
http://www.bodefeed.com/prod8.htm
INGREDIENTS
Grain Products, Roughage Products (not more than 35%), Processed Grain
By-Products, Plant Protein Products, Forage Products,
__Animal Protein Products__,
L-Lysine, Calcium Carbonate, Salt, Monocalcium/Dicalcium
Phosphate, Yeast Culture, Magnesium Oxide, Cobalt Carbonate, Basic
Copper Chloride, Manganese Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Sodium Selenite,
Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Sodium Selenite, Potassium Iodide,
Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin A
Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Mineral Oil, Mold Inhibitor, Calcium
Lignin Sulfonate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite
Complex, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin, Niacin, Biotin, Folic Acid,
Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Mineral Oil, Chromium Tripicolinate
DIRECTIONS FOR USE
Deer Builder Pellets is designed to be fed to deer under range
conditions or deer that require higher levels of protein. Feed to deer
during gestation, fawning, lactation, antler growth and pre-rut, all
phases which require a higher level of nutrition. Provide adequate
amounts of good quality roughage and fresh water at all times.
http://www.profilenutrition.com/Products/Specialty/deer_builder_pellets.html
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH & HUMAN SERVICES
PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE
FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION
April 9, 2001 WARNING LETTER
01-PHI-12
CERTIFIED MAIL
RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED
Brian J. Raymond, Owner
Sandy Lake Mills
26 Mill Street
P.O. Box 117
Sandy Lake, PA 16145
PHILADELPHIA DISTRICT
Tel: 215-597-4390
Dear Mr. Raymond:
Food and Drug Administration Investigator Gregory E. Beichner conducted
an inspection of your animal feed manufacturing operation, located in
Sandy Lake, Pennsylvania, on March 23,
2001, and determined that your firm manufactures animal feeds including
feeds containing prohibited materials. The inspection found significant
deviations from the requirements set forth in
Title 21, code of Federal Regulations, part 589.2000 - Animal Proteins
Prohibited in Ruminant Feed. The regulation is intended to prevent the
establishment and amplification of Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
(BSE) . Such deviations cause products being manufactured at this
facility to be misbranded within the meaning of Section 403(f), of the
Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic
Act (the Act).
Our investigation found failure to label your
swine feed with the required cautionary statement "Do Not Feed to cattle
or other Ruminants" The FDA suggests that the statement be
distinguished
by different type-size or color or other means of highlighting the
statement so that it is easily noticed by a purchaser.
In addition, we note that you are using approximately 140 pounds of
cracked corn to flush your mixer used in the manufacture of animal
feeds containing prohibited material. This
flushed material is fed to wild game including deer, a ruminant animal.
Feed material which may potentially contain prohibited material should
not be fed to ruminant animals which may become part of the food chain.
The above is not intended to be an all-inclusive list of deviations from
the regulations. As a manufacturer of materials intended for animal
feed use, you are responsible for assuring that your overall operation
and the products you manufacture and distribute are in compliance with
the law. We have enclosed a copy of FDA's Small Entity Compliance Guide
to assist you with complying with the regulation... blah, blah, blah...
http://www.fda.gov/foi/warning_letters/g1115d.pdf
===================================================
now, what about those 'deer scents' of 100% urine',
and the prion that is found in urine, why not just
pass the prion with the urine to other deer...
Mrs. Doe Pee Doe in Estrus
Model FDE1 Mrs. Doe Pee's Doe in Estrus is made from Estrus urine
collected at the peak of the rut, blended with Fresh Doe Urine for an
extremely effective buck enticer. Use pre-rut before the does come into
heat. Use during full rut when bucks are most active. Use during
post-rut when bucks are still actively looking for does. 1 oz.
http://www.gamecalls.net/huntingproducts/deerlures.html
ELK SCENT/SPRAY BOTTLE
*
Works anytime of the year
*
100 % Cow Elk-in-Heat urine (2oz.)
*
Economical - mix with water in spray mist bottle
*
Use wind to your advantage
Product Code WP-ESB $9.95
http://www.elkinc.com/Scent.asp
prions in urine?
[PDF] A URINE TEST FOR THE IN-VIVO DIAGNOSIS OF PRION DISEASES
http://www.sigov.si/vurs/PDF/diagnoastika-bse-urin.pdf
now, other states stance on feeding deer and CWD risk?
"Although there is no proof how CWD spreads from one deer to the next,
common sense tells many people that mouth-to-mouth contact is possibly
the culprit," Stroess said.
The feed pile or feeder presents a perfect opportunity for deer to have
mouth, nose or saliva contact with deer carrying DWD.
"Just as you and I catch a cold from someone who coughs on us or with
whom we have close contact, deer likely get some sicknesses the same
way," he said.
As of July 3, both baiting for the purpose of hunting wildlife and
feeding of wildlife became illegal in Wisconsin. This means that
backyard deer feeders, feed piles, mineral blocks, salt blocks, protein
supplement blocks and all other bait is illegal to use for any deer or
other wildlife viewing or hunting purposes.
snip...
http://www.wisinfo.com/heraldtimes/news/archive/local_5812834.shtml
Poulter said the ban on feeding is to keeping deer from congregating and
transmitting the disease to one another.
The ban includes food, salt, mineral blocks, and other food products
with some exceptions. For example, bird and squirrel feeders close to
homes and incidental feeding of wildlife within active livestock
operations are exempt from the ban.
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=4994835&BRD=606&PAG=461&dept_id=172213&rfi=6
The department is banning feeding of wild deer and other wildlife in
areas where wild deer are present. The ban includes food, salt, mineral
blocks and other food products, with some exceptions. For example, bird
and squirrel feeders close to homes and incidental feeding of wildlife
within active livestock operations are exempt from the ban.
The rule also bans the importation of hunter-harvested deer and elk
carcasses into Illinois, except for deboned meat, antlers, antlers
attached to skull caps, hides, upper canine teeth, and finished
taxidermist mounts. Skull caps must be cleaned of all brain and muscle
tissue.
Officials from the state said should anyone be caught violating the
rule, they would be charged with a petty offense and fined $1,000. For
more information about the rule, visit the department's Web site at
http://dnr.state.il.us/legal/rules-status.htm.
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=5091636&BRD=1719&PAG=461&dept_id=25271&rfi=6
NOW, what has the media in TEXAS been saying about this type feeding?
here is something from the Houston Chronicle today;
PLANTING SEEDS FOR CWD, TEXAS STYLE...TSS
Sept. 11, 2002, 7:31PM
It's time to plant seeds for deer season
By SHANNON TOMPKINS
Copyright 2002 Houston Chronicle
Texas deer hunters always look for an edge -- something to increase
their chances of success or improve the health of deer haunting their lease.
That's why they spend piles of money on equipment such as
infrared-sensing cameras to monitor trails and feeders, mineral blocks
and protein pellets as supplemental feed and spend restless nights
figuring where to put a new blind.
snip...
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/outdoors/1571427
TSS
########### http://mailhost.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de/warc/bse-l.html ############
i would like to pass a bit of info. not here to argue. have been researching
this for 6 years, and i am interested in
finding the truth. i am not an anti-hunter advocate, just think there
is a lot about TSEs most of you don't
know about. i have pasted a message
below. please read the studies, and
the source of those studies, not neccessarily the boards they are
posted to...
thank you,
kind regards,
terry
Subject: SEWING THE SEEDS OF CWD MAD DEER/ELK THROUGH FEEDING, ESPECIALLY FROM ANIMAL PROTEIN !!!
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:14:16 -0700
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr." <flounder@wt.net>
Reply-To: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy <BSE-L@uni-karlsruhe.de>
To: BSE-L@uni-karlsruhe.de
######## Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy <BSE-L@UNI-KARLSRUHE.DE> #########
CWD AND STUPID SAFETY TIP & COMMENTS TEXAS & SEWING THE SEEDS OF CWD
THROUGH ANIMAL PROTEIN? Houston Chronicle
TDH
CWD is probably not a zoonotic disease. In other words, there is
no evidence that CWD can be passed from infected animal to humans
AND
* Always thoroughly cook meat
http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/zoonosis/diseases/CWD.pdf
http://www.tdh.state.tx.us/zoonosis/
with that said, there is no evidence that it cannot, but
my opinion, there is more evidence it can, that it cannot.
AND if you plan on cooking the TSE agents out of the meat
as implied above, you had better ash it to 1000 degrees celsius.
New studies on the heat resistance of hamster-adapted scrapie agent:
Threshold survival after ashing at 600°C suggests an inorganic template
of replication
Paul Brown*, [dagger ] , Edward H. Rau [Dagger ] , Bruce K. Johnson*,
Alfred E. Bacote*, Clarence J. Gibbs Jr.*, and D. Carleton Gajdusek§
* Laboratory of Central Nervous System Studies, National Institute of
Neurological Disorders and Stroke, and [Dagger ] Environmental
Protection Branch, Division of Safety, Office of Research Services,
National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD 20892; and § Institut Alfred
Fessard, Centre National de la Recherche Scientifique, 91198 Gif sur
Yvette, France
Contributed by D. Carleton Gajdusek, December 22, 1999
One-gram samples from a pool of crude brain tissue from hamsters
infected with the 263K strain of hamster-adapted scrapie agent were
placed in covered quartz-glass crucibles and exposed for either 5 or 15
min to dry heat at temperatures ranging from 150°C to 1,000°C. Residual
infectivity in the treated samples was assayed by the intracerebral
inoculation of dilution series into healthy weanling hamsters, which
were observed for 10 months; disease transmissions were verified by
Western blot testing for proteinase-resistant protein in brains from
clinically positive hamsters. Unheated control tissue contained 9.9
log10LD50/g tissue; after exposure to 150°C, titers equaled or exceeded
6 log10LD50/g, and after exposure to 300°C, titers equaled or exceeded 4
log10LD50/g. Exposure to 600°C completely ashed the brain samples,
which, when reconstituted with saline to their original weights,
transmitted disease to 5 of 35 inoculated hamsters. No transmissions
occurred after exposure to 1,000°C. These results suggest that an
inorganic molecular template with a decomposition point near 600°C is
capable of nucleating the biological replication of the scrapie agent.
snip...
http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/97/7/3418
But some scientists advocate stricter measures.
Pierluigi Gambetti, director of the National Prion Disease Pathology
Surveillance Center at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland,
said all deer should be tested for chronic wasting disease before any
processing is done.
"There is no way around it," he said. "Nobody should touch that meat
unless it has been tested."
snip...
also, what is TEXAS stance on feeding deer and CWD risk?
but before that, lets look at a few things;
Oral transmission and early lymphoid tropism of chronic wasting disease
PrPres in mule deer fawns (Odocoileus hemionus )
Christina J. Sigurdson1, Elizabeth S. Williams2, Michael W. Miller3,
Terry R. Spraker1,4, Katherine I. O'Rourke5 and Edward A. Hoover1
Department of Pathology, College of Veterinary Medicine and Biomedical
Sciences, Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO 80523- 1671, USA1
Department of Veterinary Sciences, University of Wyoming, 1174 Snowy
Range Road, University of Wyoming, Laramie, WY 82070, USA 2
Colorado Division of Wildlife, Wildlife Research Center, 317 West
Prospect Road, Fort Collins, CO 80526-2097, USA3
Colorado State University Veterinary Diagnostic Laboratory, 300 West
Drake Road, Fort Collins, CO 80523-1671, USA4
Animal Disease Research Unit, Agricultural Research Service, US
Department of Agriculture, 337 Bustad Hall, Washington State University,
Pullman, WA 99164-7030, USA5
Author for correspondence: Edward Hoover.Fax +1 970 491 0523. e-mail
ehoover@lamar.colostate.edu
Mule deer fawns (Odocoileus hemionus) were inoculated orally with a
brain homogenate prepared from mule deer with naturally occurring
chronic wasting disease (CWD), a prion-induced transmissible spongiform
encephalopathy. Fawns were necropsied and examined for PrP res, the
abnormal prion protein isoform, at 10, 42, 53, 77, 78 and 80 days
post-inoculation (p.i.) using an immunohistochemistry assay modified to
enhance sensitivity. PrPres was detected in alimentary-tract-associated
lymphoid tissues (one or more of the following: retropharyngeal lymph
node, tonsil, Peyer's patch and ileocaecal lymph node) as early as 42
days p.i. and in all fawns examined thereafter (53 to 80 days p.i.). No
PrPres staining was detected in lymphoid tissue of three control fawns
receiving a control brain inoculum, nor was PrPres detectable in neural
tissue of any fawn. PrPres-specific staining was markedly enhanced by
sequential tissue treatment with formic acid, proteinase K and hydrated
autoclaving prior to immunohistochemical staining with monoclonal
antibody F89/160.1.5. These results indicate that CWD PrP res can be
detected in lymphoid tissues draining the alimentary tract within a few
weeks after oral exposure to infectious prions and may reflect the
initial pathway of CWD infection in deer. The rapid infection of deer
fawns following exposure by the most plausible natural route is
consistent with the efficient horizontal transmission of CWD in nature
and enables accelerated studies of transmission and pathogenesis in the
native species.
snip...
These results indicate that mule deer fawns develop detectable PrP res
after oral exposure to an inoculum containing CWD prions. In the
earliest post-exposure period, CWD PrPres was traced to the lymphoid
tissues draining the oral and intestinal mucosa (i.e. the
retropharyngeal lymph nodes, tonsil, ileal Peyer's patches and
ileocaecal lymph nodes), which probably received the highest initial
exposure to the inoculum. Hadlow et al. (1982) demonstrated scrapie
agent in the tonsil, retropharyngeal and mesenteric lymph nodes, ileum
and spleen in a 10-month-old naturally infected lamb by mouse bioassay.
Eight of nine sheep had infectivity in the retropharyngeal lymph node.
He concluded that the tissue distribution suggested primary infection
via the gastrointestinal tract. The tissue distribution of PrPres in the
early stages of infection in the fawns is strikingly similar to that
seen in naturally infected sheep with scrapie. These findings support
oral exposure as a natural route of CWD infection in deer and support
oral inoculation as a reasonable exposure route for experimental studies
of CWD.
snip...
http://vir.sgmjournals.org/cgi/content/full/80/10/2757
now, just what is in that deer feed? _ANIMAL PROTEIN_
Subject: MAD DEER/ELK DISEASE AND POTENTIAL SOURCES
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 18:41:46 -0700
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr." <flounder@wt.net>
Reply-To: BSE-L
To: BSE-L
8420-20.5% Antler Developer
For Deer and Game in the wild
Guaranteed Analysis Ingredients / Products Feeding Directions
snip...
_animal protein_
http://www.surefed.com/deer.htm
BODE'S GAME FEED SUPPLEMENT #400
A RATION FOR DEER
NET WEIGHT 50 POUNDS
22.6 KG.
snip...
_animal protein_
http://www.bodefeed.com/prod7.htm
Ingredients
Grain Products, Plant Protein Products, Processed Grain By-Products,
Forage Products, Roughage Products 15%, Molasses Products,
__Animal Protein Products__,
Monocalcium Phosphate, Dicalcium Pyosphate, Salt,
Calcium Carbonate, Vitamin A Acetate with D-activated Animal Sterol
(source of Vitamin D3), Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement,
Riboflavin Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Calcium Panothenate, Choline
Chloride, Folic Acid, Menadione Soduim Bisulfite Complex, Pyridoxine
Hydorchloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, d-Biotin, Manganous Oxide, Zinc
Oxide, Ferrous Carbonate, Calcium Iodate, Cobalt Carbonate, Dried
Sacchoromyces Berevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Cellulose gum,
Artificial Flavors added.
http://www.bodefeed.com/prod6.htm
===================================
MORE ANIMAL PROTEIN PRODUCTS FOR DEER
Bode's #1 Game Pellets
A RATION FOR DEER
F3153
GUARANTEED ANALYSIS
Crude Protein (Min) 16%
Crude Fat (Min) 2.0%
Crude Fiber (Max) 19%
Calcium (Ca) (Min) 1.25%
Calcium (Ca) (Max) 1.75%
Phosphorus (P) (Min) 1.0%
Salt (Min) .30%
Salt (Max) .70%
Ingredients
Grain Products, Plant Protein Products, Processed Grain By-Products,
Forage Products, Roughage Products, 15% Molasses Products,
__Animal Protein Products__,
Monocalcium Phosphate, Dicalcium Phosphate, Salt,
Calcium Carbonate, Vitamin A Acetate with D-activated Animal Sterol
(source of Vitamin D3) Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement,
Roboflavin Supplement, Niacin Supplement, Calcium Pantothenate, Choline
Chloride, Folic Acid, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite Complex, Pyridoxine
Hydrochloride, Thiamine Mononitrate, e - Biotin, Manganous Oxide, Zinc
Oxide, Ferrous Carbonate, Calcium Iodate, Cobalt Carbonate, Dried
Saccharyomyces Cerevisiae Fermentation Solubles, Cellulose gum,
Artificial Flavors added.
FEEDING DIRECTIONS
Feed as Creep Feed with Normal Diet
http://www.bodefeed.com/prod8.htm
INGREDIENTS
Grain Products, Roughage Products (not more than 35%), Processed Grain
By-Products, Plant Protein Products, Forage Products,
__Animal Protein Products__,
L-Lysine, Calcium Carbonate, Salt, Monocalcium/Dicalcium
Phosphate, Yeast Culture, Magnesium Oxide, Cobalt Carbonate, Basic
Copper Chloride, Manganese Sulfate, Manganous Oxide, Sodium Selenite,
Zinc Sulfate, Zinc Oxide, Sodium Selenite, Potassium Iodide,
Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin A
Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Mineral Oil, Mold Inhibitor, Calcium
Lignin Sulfonate, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Menadione Sodium Bisulfite
Complex, Calcium Pantothenate, Riboflavin, Niacin, Biotin, Folic Acid,
Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Mineral Oil, Chromium Tripicolinate
DIRECTIONS FOR USE
Deer Builder Pellets is designed to be fed to deer under range
conditions or deer that require higher levels of protein. Feed to deer
during gestation, fawning, lactation, antler growth and pre-rut, all
phases which require a higher level of nutrition. Provide adequate
amounts of good quality roughage and fresh water at all times.
http://www.profilenutrition.com/Products/Specialty/deer_builder_pellets.html
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH & HUMAN SERVICES
PUBLIC HEALTH SERVICE
FOOD AND DRUG ADMINISTRATION
April 9, 2001 WARNING LETTER
01-PHI-12
CERTIFIED MAIL
RETURN RECEIPT REQUESTED
Brian J. Raymond, Owner
Sandy Lake Mills
26 Mill Street
P.O. Box 117
Sandy Lake, PA 16145
PHILADELPHIA DISTRICT
Tel: 215-597-4390
Dear Mr. Raymond:
Food and Drug Administration Investigator Gregory E. Beichner conducted
an inspection of your animal feed manufacturing operation, located in
Sandy Lake, Pennsylvania, on March 23,
2001, and determined that your firm manufactures animal feeds including
feeds containing prohibited materials. The inspection found significant
deviations from the requirements set forth in
Title 21, code of Federal Regulations, part 589.2000 - Animal Proteins
Prohibited in Ruminant Feed. The regulation is intended to prevent the
establishment and amplification of Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
(BSE) . Such deviations cause products being manufactured at this
facility to be misbranded within the meaning of Section 403(f), of the
Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic
Act (the Act).
Our investigation found failure to label your
swine feed with the required cautionary statement "Do Not Feed to cattle
or other Ruminants" The FDA suggests that the statement be
distinguished
by different type-size or color or other means of highlighting the
statement so that it is easily noticed by a purchaser.
In addition, we note that you are using approximately 140 pounds of
cracked corn to flush your mixer used in the manufacture of animal
feeds containing prohibited material. This
flushed material is fed to wild game including deer, a ruminant animal.
Feed material which may potentially contain prohibited material should
not be fed to ruminant animals which may become part of the food chain.
The above is not intended to be an all-inclusive list of deviations from
the regulations. As a manufacturer of materials intended for animal
feed use, you are responsible for assuring that your overall operation
and the products you manufacture and distribute are in compliance with
the law. We have enclosed a copy of FDA's Small Entity Compliance Guide
to assist you with complying with the regulation... blah, blah, blah...
http://www.fda.gov/foi/warning_letters/g1115d.pdf
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now, what about those 'deer scents' of 100% urine',
and the prion that is found in urine, why not just
pass the prion with the urine to other deer...
Mrs. Doe Pee Doe in Estrus
Model FDE1 Mrs. Doe Pee's Doe in Estrus is made from Estrus urine
collected at the peak of the rut, blended with Fresh Doe Urine for an
extremely effective buck enticer. Use pre-rut before the does come into
heat. Use during full rut when bucks are most active. Use during
post-rut when bucks are still actively looking for does. 1 oz.
http://www.gamecalls.net/huntingproducts/deerlures.html
ELK SCENT/SPRAY BOTTLE
*
Works anytime of the year
*
100 % Cow Elk-in-Heat urine (2oz.)
*
Economical - mix with water in spray mist bottle
*
Use wind to your advantage
Product Code WP-ESB $9.95
http://www.elkinc.com/Scent.asp
prions in urine?
[PDF] A URINE TEST FOR THE IN-VIVO DIAGNOSIS OF PRION DISEASES
http://www.sigov.si/vurs/PDF/diagnoastika-bse-urin.pdf
now, other states stance on feeding deer and CWD risk?
"Although there is no proof how CWD spreads from one deer to the next,
common sense tells many people that mouth-to-mouth contact is possibly
the culprit," Stroess said.
The feed pile or feeder presents a perfect opportunity for deer to have
mouth, nose or saliva contact with deer carrying DWD.
"Just as you and I catch a cold from someone who coughs on us or with
whom we have close contact, deer likely get some sicknesses the same
way," he said.
As of July 3, both baiting for the purpose of hunting wildlife and
feeding of wildlife became illegal in Wisconsin. This means that
backyard deer feeders, feed piles, mineral blocks, salt blocks, protein
supplement blocks and all other bait is illegal to use for any deer or
other wildlife viewing or hunting purposes.
snip...
http://www.wisinfo.com/heraldtimes/news/archive/local_5812834.shtml
Poulter said the ban on feeding is to keeping deer from congregating and
transmitting the disease to one another.
The ban includes food, salt, mineral blocks, and other food products
with some exceptions. For example, bird and squirrel feeders close to
homes and incidental feeding of wildlife within active livestock
operations are exempt from the ban.
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=4994835&BRD=606&PAG=461&dept_id=172213&rfi=6
The department is banning feeding of wild deer and other wildlife in
areas where wild deer are present. The ban includes food, salt, mineral
blocks and other food products, with some exceptions. For example, bird
and squirrel feeders close to homes and incidental feeding of wildlife
within active livestock operations are exempt from the ban.
The rule also bans the importation of hunter-harvested deer and elk
carcasses into Illinois, except for deboned meat, antlers, antlers
attached to skull caps, hides, upper canine teeth, and finished
taxidermist mounts. Skull caps must be cleaned of all brain and muscle
tissue.
Officials from the state said should anyone be caught violating the
rule, they would be charged with a petty offense and fined $1,000. For
more information about the rule, visit the department's Web site at
http://dnr.state.il.us/legal/rules-status.htm.
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=5091636&BRD=1719&PAG=461&dept_id=25271&rfi=6
NOW, what has the media in TEXAS been saying about this type feeding?
here is something from the Houston Chronicle today;
PLANTING SEEDS FOR CWD, TEXAS STYLE...TSS
Sept. 11, 2002, 7:31PM
It's time to plant seeds for deer season
By SHANNON TOMPKINS
Copyright 2002 Houston Chronicle
Texas deer hunters always look for an edge -- something to increase
their chances of success or improve the health of deer haunting their lease.
That's why they spend piles of money on equipment such as
infrared-sensing cameras to monitor trails and feeders, mineral blocks
and protein pellets as supplemental feed and spend restless nights
figuring where to put a new blind.
snip...
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/outdoors/1571427
TSS
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