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01-31-2002, 01:52 PM
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demo and used pro boats advice wanted
i have a couple questions.
lets just pick 30,000 as the standard
if your dealer has a demo boats very low hours, that he is selling how much do you think it should be discounted?
if a pro has a boat that is one year old how much do you think it is worth, with one year wear and tear on it?(using 30,000 as a number)
Is a pros boat better because it is setup great for fishing purposes, or worst because it has taken a beating(they fish in stuff a lot of people wouldnt) and has more hours than the normal boat?
Obviuosly the pros boat has more bell and wistles than the dealers new boat(of course you can add them on), but most pros get those items discounted, what percent do you think they add to the boat?
example t8 kicker about 2,100-how much does that add to the pros boat, obviuoslty not 2,100-but how much?
basically what percent should one add for the money spent on addons?
thanks for your time
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01-31-2002, 04:04 PM
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Boy you are looking at all angles of that new boat. Putting it in the garage and so on.  Anyways i have been told that the norm is 10-15 percent off the total price. I never heard if that directly from a dealer but from a good source. To be honest i think that is just a good number to go with. They are always getting them cheaper with mulitpule discounts and so on.
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01-31-2002, 04:06 PM
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I'll try to answer your questions as acurately as possible.
First of all, pro boats are usually bought or provided at below dealer cost and the accessories are added on at cost.
I assume you're looking at a boat that someone wants 30,000 for.
If that is correct, the boat retails for much more.
You will not get the boat for any less than what was paid for it because the discounts were taken up front.
You can pretty much figure out what the boat should have sold for new by adding 10% to the boat itself , mark that amount up
by 20% and then add accessories at about a 50% markup.
The boat I mentioned to you a couple of days ago was a tournament boat of mine last year but I don't beat my boats up.
Some tournament fishermen do so it depends on who had the boat.
From a motor standpoint, they usually break early if they're gonna break and most of the pro boats should be under warranty.
I hope I haven't thoroughly confused you but I'll put it another way. Price a new model of the same boat out right now rigged with the same equipment. You should be paying around 25% less for the pro boat.
PM me if you have any other questions and I'll answer you PM with my phone number so we can talk further.
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01-31-2002, 04:25 PM
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ive seen and talked to a lot of people about boats.
ill make everything as close to eqaul as possible-meaning if one has a cover the other doesnt, ill subtratc that to make all equal
new-33,000
demo(20 hours)-30,000 from dealer full waranties
pro boat #2-30,000 (few extra not needed)
pro boat #1-28,000
they all start looking so close
i wouldnt do the new-dont want to spend 33,000
but that is a reference boat
not sure how much ware and tear go into a pro boat that used it in one year what id do in 4.
so many things to consider
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01-31-2002, 04:40 PM
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Pro Boats
1fife,
This will probably get me crucified but if you PM me with the pros names who have the boats, I'll let you know whether or not to consider them.
That's just the way I am.
TBone can attest to my straightforward nature. I guess its because I learned long ago to treat others as I'd like to be treated and that's a habit I don't want to break!
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01-31-2002, 05:23 PM
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1fife,
I know how confusing making some of these purchases can be. I beat myself up pretty good when it comes to buying a new rod!
I just realized the other day that I had talked to walleyechaser about a boat a couple of years ago. I only met him once. Then this fall I asked him a couple of questions about 'eyes. It took me a long time to put together the two events.
I have very good memories of talking to him that day. It was my first boat. I had no idea what to look for. He spent a lot of time and educated my wife and I. I didn't buy a boat from him, and I actually don't think I ever went back to the marina. At the time, I wasn't ready to buy. Later I saw an ad by an individual, it fit everything he said, was in the price range, and I jumped. I love my boat and think that he fit my needs perfect.
Anyway, I would highly recommend Mike. I don't think he'll steer you wrong. Best of luck to you. Buying a new rig is very exciting.
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01-31-2002, 05:25 PM
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BTW,
He knows ALOT about 'eyes too!
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01-31-2002, 10:35 PM
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walloeychaser check your pm
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