scope problem

[sempergumbie6570]

I went and had to take in my old scope and replace it with a new one. Its exactly the same as my old one but its newer. Well i went and put up my target its like 3ft by 4ft i beleive the board is. well i cant get the scope to even hit the board to decide how to adjust it. when i got the scope from randys in bad axe they say they bore sighted it. well i was in the Marine Infantry and when we bore sight a weapon we will be dead on in five hits. so i am wondering whats the problem. did i get a junk replacement or what. or did they just not bore sight it. i went through like 30 rounds and still cant hit a hundred. when i went to 50 the it would hit 2inches to the left so i went and moved it 8 clicks to the right and then it wont even hit the board. any help would be greatly apprecaited. Or should i take it to a different gun store and have them rebore sight it. thanks in advance

[skipper34]

Originally Posted by sempergumbie6570

I went and had to take in my old scope and replace it with a new one. Its exactly the same as my old one but its newer. Well i went and put up my target its like 3ft by 4ft i beleive the board is. well i cant get the scope to even hit the board to decide how to adjust it. when i got the scope from randys in bad axe they say they bore sighted it. well i was in the Marine Infantry and when we bore sight a weapon we will be dead on in five hits. so i am wondering whats the problem. did i get a junk replacement or what. or did they just not bore sight it. i went through like 30 rounds and still cant hit a hundred. when i went to 50 the it would hit 2inches to the left so i went and moved it 8 clicks to the right and then it wont even hit the board. any help would be greatly apprecaited. Or should i take it to a different gun store and have them rebore sight it. thanks in advance

1/4 MOA is for 100 yds. Try 4 clicks at 50 yards. Or better yet, shoot at 25 yards to start. Get it an inch low at 25 and you should be on paper at 100. What gun caliber and what scope?

[FullQuiver]

If it is a bolt gun or a single shot or an inline muzzleloader just look down the bore from the breech and align the crosshairs and bore on a distant object should get you close. I would think though that maybe there is something up with the scope.

[willy05]

Between myself and my hunting buddy, we've bought more than a few guns and scopes from Randy and have never had a problem. If your not hitting a 3foot by 4foot target I would not even want to move my scope that far it has to be at least 2 foot off. Something is wrong, wether itbe the mounts or scope.

[glockman55]

You can't expect to bore sight a scope and start out at 100 yds and hit the target. Check all the screws on mount and rings, re-bore sight it and start at 25 yds.
Need more info on your set up, height of scope, type of scope, rifle, etc.

[skipper34]

Originally Posted by glockman55

You can't expect to bore sight a scope and start out at 100 yds and hit the target. Check all the screws on mount and rings, re-bore sight it and start at 25 yds.
Need more info on your set up, height of scope, type of scope, rifle, etc.

[Sam22]

Originally Posted by glockman55

You can't expect to bore sight a scope and start out at 100 yds and hit the target. Check all the screws on mount and rings, re-bore sight it and start at 25 yds.
Need more info on your set up, height of scope, type of scope, rifle, etc.

If your an accomplished marksman, you might want to go to another scope. Time is short before the opener, and gun shops will be ransacked I would do something sooner than later.

[bersh]

As mentioned, start at 25 yards and go from there. The closer you are, the more clicks it will take to move POI. If it is a 1/4" per click at 100 yards, it will take 16 clicks to move it an inch at 25, or close to that anyway. Some scopes are 1/2" click, so you should post what type of gun and what brand and model of scope.

My first thought is that something is hosed up though. At this point you have nothing to lose so you might as well tear it apart, make sure the base screws are tight, make sure the ring screws are very snug, etc. If you are sure that the mounting isn't the problem, then you can narrow it down a bit to the scope.

I'm a big fan of Burris Signature rings with the inserts as you can use the offset inserts to adjust the POI by up to 20" without having to touch the adjustments on the scope.

[MSUICEMAN]

are you shooting off-hand or using a tri/bi-pod, shooting rest, etc? what gun/barrel/slug are you shooting?

[kbb3358]

I had my ML bore sighted then went to the range to shoot. At 25 yards I barely hit the paper. Needed to move the scope 96 clicks (1/4"). Once I hit a little high at 25 move to 50 then to 100 yards. After 20 shots or so I was hitting the bull or little high. Next year will work out to 150 or even 200 yards.

[B-ckstopper]

Remember 1/4 click @100 yds, will be 8 clicks at 50 yards......Make sure your scope is not hitting the iron sight or ramp on the barrel with the bell of the scope.....
On a Bolt rifle, you can pull the bolt and look down the bore at a target, with the gun secure, then look thru the scope, you should be looking at about the same picture..........

[sempergumbie6570]

i am shooting a knight muzzleloader with a swift scope. Its a 2x7 scope. I shoot it from a desk top with a back pack that is full. So it is a pretty stable rest. Shoot i know it has to be a scope and not me. For I can get in the prone position and still not hit board. So i know it isnt me, for when i get into the prone position i can put a bullet in a mans size head in between his eyes out to 500 meters when i was in the Marines. So i know its not me. Well i have delt with randys many of times. Somethings we dont see eye to eye on like randy saids that bucks shot is only good for out to 50 yards. I know from first hand experience that i can drop deer in its tracks out to 77 yards with ease in open terrain. But thats niether here nor there. I wish my other scope wasnt messed up, for i hate not having my muzzeloader for deer hunting. For i hunt state land and need a gun that will hit 200 yards with ease. I wouldnt trust a slug to go that far. Well atleast with none of my guns. So I am going to take it back there and ask for a new scope or have them bore sight it. Thanks for the info and help.

[bersh]

Originally Posted by sempergumbie6570

i am shooting a knight muzzleloader with a swift scope. Its a 2x7 scope. I shoot it from a desk top with a back pack that is full. So it is a pretty stable rest. Shoot i know it has to be a scope and not me. For I can get in the prone position and still not hit board. So i know it isnt me, for when i get into the prone position i can put a bullet in a mans size head in between his eyes out to 500 meters when i was in the Marines. So i know its not me. Well i have delt with randys many of times. Somethings we dont see eye to eye on like randy saids that bucks shot is only good for out to 50 yards. I know from first hand experience that i can drop deer in its tracks out to 77 yards with ease in open terrain. But thats niether here nor there. I wish my other scope wasnt messed up, for i hate not having my muzzeloader for deer hunting. For i hunt state land and need a gun that will hit 200 yards with ease. I wouldnt trust a slug to go that far. Well atleast with none of my guns. So I am going to take it back there and ask for a new scope or have them bore sight it. Thanks for the info and help.

Taking it back is probably your best bet - my only concern at this time of year would be turnaround, so try to get them to do it right then in front of you when you bring it in. Once you get it back and go to sight it in, start at 25 yards and go out from there.

As far as the buckshot is concerned, just because you may have killed a deer at 77 yards doesn't mean that is an ethical or safe/smart shot to take. The maximum effective range really depends on the load, barrel length, and choke. For a 12 ga. with a modified choke 50 yards is a pretty universally accepted standard for the recommended maximum range though.

[sempergumbie6570]

well i agree those new guns now adays are just not any good for distance. thats why i went and bought a remington 870 wingmaster that as a 30 inch barrrel full choke from one end of the barrel to the other. It will out shoot the screw in choke any day of the week. I only use that gun for waterfowl, and small game for thats all its good for. In fact i am thinking of getting a 10 gauge to get more distance for waterfowl. No i use the 30 inch barrel for deer. Its is ethical to shoot deer up to 80yards if need be at deer. I use copper plated 000 buckshot for distance. if i am in alot of brush i will rack out the 000 and rack in the 00 buck for the thick stuff. But the screw in choke yea i would doubt you can get 50 yards out it. Thats why i went and bought the 30 inch barrel. Plus thats why i take my muzzleloader i use that for the long distance shots. So when i go hunting i carry my 44 for fun, and corn fields the 12 gauge for brush and back up, and the muzzleloader for distance shots. I have it all down to sience.

[UPhiker]

With all due respect, you don't know what you're talking about. Only the end of your barrel is choked, just like the screw-in ones, not the full length. Bersh is right, 50 yds is the max for buckshot. Try a rifled barrel. Smooth bore barrels are nowhere near as accurate with slugs.