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Old 12-21-2008, 09:07 PM
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What are the laws in Michigan for muzzleloading pistols and rifles governing things such as barrel and overall length?
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Old 12-21-2008, 09:09 PM
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Be more specific on the information you are looking for. Since they aren't legally considered firearms for recordkeeping purposes, regular firearms regulations don't apply.
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Old 12-21-2008, 10:45 PM
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What regulations do apply?

Could you carry one during bow hunting season?

Could you use one that had a short barrel (pistol/handgun) for deer hunting?

Could you carry one concealed?

Could you shorten the barrel to any length you wish?

Could you have any sort of stock installed?

etc...

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Old 12-22-2008, 04:48 AM
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http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7...1578--,00.html
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http://www.michigan.gov/ag/0,1607,7-...672---,00.html
You can only carry a pistol during bow season if you have a CCW permit.
You can use a black powder pistol during the firearm season.
You can only carry it concealed if you have a CCW. A pistol in a holster is not considered concealed as long as the holster is outside the clothing.
If you put a stock on a pistol, it's now a rifle under Michigan law. A rifle with a total overall length under 26" is considered a "short barreled rifle" and is illegal. A rifle under 30" TOL is considered a pistol and registered as such.
There is no barrel length limit on a pistol.
There is no caliber requirement listed for black powder muzzle loader, but there is a .35 caliber limit with straight wall cartridge limit for a smokeless powder pistol.
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Old 12-22-2008, 07:15 AM
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You can use a black powder pistol during the firearm season.
You can only carry it concealed if you have a CCW. A pistol in a holster is not considered concealed as long as the holster is outside the clothing.
If you put a stock on a pistol, it's now a rifle under Michigan law. A rifle with a total overall length under 26" is considered a "short barreled rifle" and is illegal. A rifle under 30" TOL is considered a pistol and registered as such.
There is no barrel length limit on a pistol.
There is no caliber requirement listed for black powder muzzle loader, but there is a .35 caliber limit with straight wall cartridge limit for a smokeless powder pistol.
Right those are the laws as they apply to normal guns/firearms, but if a muzzleloader with a long barrel isn't a firearm, would a muzzleloader with a short barrel be a "pistol" legally? The thing is, I find some references that say that muzzleloaders *are* firearms, just that they're governed under a different set of rules since they are antiques/aren't modern.
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:24 AM
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Do I need a handgun permit in Michigan to purchase a black powder pistol?
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Old 12-22-2008, 09:26 AM
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Right those are the laws as they apply to normal guns/firearms, but if a muzzleloader with a long barrel isn't a firearm...
There are a variety of Federal and State laws that apply. They don't all treat muzzleloaders the same. You have to comply with both the Federal and the State laws as they apply to firearms.

Under the federal Gun Control Act of 1968 a muzzleloader is not a controlled firearm (i.e. you can mail order a muzzeloading rifle or shotgun from out of state). Many state laws treat muzzleloaders the same as modern firearms (i.e. blackpowder handguns are treated the same as regular handguns under Michigan law).

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Old 02-26-2009, 09:41 AM
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Do I need a handgun permit in Michigan to purchase a black powder pistol?

NO, I just went the sherrif's office to get a purchase permit in case I bought a standard revolver. They told me a permit is not required to purchase a black powder revolver....and Cabela's didn't ask me for one @ the store. I'm still checking in to see if you have to have one registered to hunt with....I can't understand why you would.

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Old 12-15-2010, 07:21 PM
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Default permit to purchase Blackpowder revolver

I tried explaining this to the Iosco county sherrif's Dept..asked them to check with State police, "Not needed to do so, I KNOW it is required to have a purchase permit" he says.

The state law is clear on this, but apparently not all counties are up to date.


I am ALSO having trouble now buying a black powder rifle, pistol, and SABOT ROUNDS from Sportsmansguide.


They say it is Illegal. In 2010?

Not as far as I can determine.


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