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Hamilton Reef
05-06-2005, 10:48 PM
Carp continue to get no respect
Fish are popular in Europe, Asia, but not in U.S.

http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/11578550.htm

SANTA ANA, CALIF. - They are called trash fish, junk fish, the bottom of the barrel among fishes, a nuisance, a pest.

They are otherwise known as carp, the Rodney Dangerfield of freshwater game fish.

Anglers mistakenly catching them enjoy the fight until they see that at the end of their line is a fish with a vacuum-cleaner snout, large scales and a golden-brown complexion.

As big as carp fishing is in Europe and Asia -- it's as huge there as bass fishing is here -- it is generally frowned upon by most fishermen in America. Carp are unwanted, disrespected and most definitely underestimated.

The American angling populace doesn't know what it's missing, those who fish for carp say. But slowly, the word is getting out.

Evidence suggests carp fishing is being taken at least a little more seriously in the United States nowadays.

``I remember 20 years ago, a friend and I would go carp fishing and people would give us a funny look when they asked what we're fishing for,'' said Jered Carlson, 41, of Yorba Linda, Calif., an avid carp fisherman for more than 20 years.

``Now people ask more about it. `Carp? Really? How big?' They seem a little more interested in it.''

Interest in carp could get a boost June 5-10, when the first World Carp Championship is held in the United States on the St. Lawrence River in New York.

The International Carp Fishing Association, based in Europe, has almost 40 member countries. The ICFA is sanctioning the event, and the American Carp Society is putting it on.

As a message that carp should be taken seriously, the ACS is offering a $1 million prize to the competitor who catches a carp that breaks the New York state record of 50 pounds, 4 ounces.

``This definitely raises the bar for carp-angling competition and sends a strong message about its future here in America,'' Wayne Boon, a director of the American Carp Society, said in a statement.

Carlson already knows how fun and productive carp fishing can be. When he was in high school, he watched a carp rip line off an angler's reel and break it off. Intrigued by the battle, Carlson asked how to fish for carp, was told how, and 15 minutes later was landing a 15-pound carp.

``Ever since then I've been hooked,'' he said.

Carp are considered very easy to catch in the spring and summer, a little tougher in the colder months. They are prolific breeders and can be caught in just about any body of water.

Pound for pound, carp are considered heavyweights and put up an excellent fight, especially when the angler is using light tackle.

Carp are eaten by people throughout the world, but North Americans and Australians don't consider them table fare.

Carp are native to Europe and Asia, where they are as respected as bass, catfish and trout are here. In those parts of the world, it's been said that carp have been one of the most frequently sought sportfish for centuries.

To the bass-fishing purist or other anglers who might shun the thought of catching carp, carp anglers simply say, ``Try it, you'll like it.''

If you do, you might discover what other American anglers are discovering: That one man's trash fish is another man's treasure fish.




neil duffey
05-07-2005, 03:10 AM
and will continue to get just that from me! i cant even stomach lookin at the ugly sob's! just fodder for my bow... one time i accidentaly caught one on my cranck bait off the dock... sob wouldnt stop floppin... my cousin grabbed it by the tail and held it up... i punched it in the head... it became fertilizer for my aunts garden at the cottage. i hate em.

fmarke
05-07-2005, 05:27 AM
if you have ever stalked them with a 7wt flyrod, you'll find out why they call them "golden bonefish"!! :SHOCKED:

Southend517
05-07-2005, 07:57 AM
I love to carp fish, but every other time some things seems to get broken, or even a lost pole that gets pulled right in. :yikes: Maybe I'll go today

fordraceing_man
05-07-2005, 09:22 AM
can you eat them?

salmonslammer
05-07-2005, 04:54 PM
You can eat anything....Q is why would you want to??? :yikes:



I 'll stick to the eyes and perchies, thank you very much.



My buddys kin were going to get some airboats and market guided carp trips to the teabags....Up in bayport I do believe. I know we used to shoot the $#!& out of them when I was in college... Some of those boats hold,well, a boad load. Wonder how many acres you can fertilize with a ton of carp??

Carp shooting is coming up soon isn't it?? Been so long I don't remember when we went. :confused:

Rondevous
05-07-2005, 05:18 PM
if you have ever stalked them with a 7wt flyrod, you'll find out why they call them "golden bonefish"!! :SHOCKED:

Now thats the spirit!
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c172driver
05-07-2005, 06:03 PM
Definetly fun to go after at night with a bow and arrow, drifting down the river.
Makes great fertalizer:lol:

Rondevous
05-07-2005, 06:24 PM
I've had them smoked and they were good.

I have used them to make a fish oil bait for trapping.

alex-v
05-08-2005, 12:06 PM
Smoked Carp is probably the 2nd best of smoked fish after salmon.

jamieking989
05-08-2005, 12:50 PM
We used to spear them and some and can them they were great! I thought the fish advisory said not to eat hem at all or I'd still eat them.


Jamie

MIfishinGuy
05-10-2005, 06:48 PM
carp are fun to catch, but are a little nastier than some of the other fish in the lake. i personally would never keep one. great fun when you can sight fish them. but never never never set your rod down.:yikes: :yikes: :yikes: :fish: :bash: :rant: :mad:

DZtaxidermy
05-10-2005, 07:02 PM
I just got a order for a big Carp reproduction. First one I've ever gotten.

Sailor
05-10-2005, 08:02 PM
Such derogatory comments about the fish Izaak Walton called "The Queen of The Rivers" (Chapter 9, The Compleat Angler)!!!!
If you have ever tried to land a river carp on your Steelhead rod you would have more respect (and probablythink you hooked a schoolbus)!!!

stelmon
05-10-2005, 08:11 PM
d@n$teeliem@n guides for them:lol: :yikes: :evil:

Frozenfish
05-11-2005, 07:49 AM
What is a good carp bait? Are they like catfish, eat hot dogs?

Southend517
05-11-2005, 08:31 AM
I like corn or bread on a treble hook, Last year (aug.-Sept. 6 trips) I kept track
Bait Standings (does not include lost ones)

bread--------------------5
corn---------------------11
worms------------------1
powerbait corn---------1
powerbait liver---------0
Uncle Josh's------------2
Tourny Strentgh
mulberry bait-----------0
Marshmellows---------0
sauage cheeze bait-----0



here are some other good ones http://carpassociation.com/catfishbaitrecipies.htm
http://img42.echo.cx/img42/8859/carpbottom.gif

kumma
05-11-2005, 02:54 PM
Well I think there pretty cool. Just saw a bunch of them while golfing this morning. The banks of the water looked like they were on fire with all the fish activity. Carp were even swimming up the small feeder creek not 2 feet wide 6 inches deep. They are a powerful and explosively strong fish. I would love to hook one and have it take off and hear the reel scream, would have been a lot more fun than golfing. Im no fish snob here hell I even throw back the bullheads when all of my narrow minded buddies throw them in the fire.

Krull
05-12-2005, 01:59 PM
Why all the hate? While I have never kept one, fighting a carp on your steelhead rod with 6 lb test is tough to beat. Plus you can make such a day of it. My budy and I do it right, complete with lawn chairs, cooler, homemade "Y" stick rod holders, numerous 40 oz'ers (that must be drank out of the bag) and about 5 cans of corn (chum them in) using a small hook. The occasional yelp of "Sueeeeeyyyyy" seems to help bring them in too......