Disgusted!!!!!!!!!!

[mich buckmaster]

I have been hunting some property for about 14 years. It is piece that is 1500 acres and has always been a great farm to hunt. I have lost about 9 stands over the years and the problem that came up is that ANYONE that asked got to hunt. SO they had the SLOB hunters hunting there farm. They are just very nice OLD people that know what deer do to their crops. SO this year they had people get stuck, after they said NO driving on the farm, people left trash ALL over the place. ALSO they were riding their horses when someone came out of the bushes and fired a warning shot at them.

THEY CLOSED UP THE FARM!!!!!!! I dont know how many places I have lost because of slobs.

*%^%%&*^(*%(*&*)(&KJHKJFHLS:DIJIOSDJK!@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :( :mad: :sad: :evil: :bash:

[markbouman]

Man you hate to see situations taken advantage of like that! I hunt a farm in VB county exclusively during the archery season and was asked by the owner to take up to 3 does last year which I did. I've earned the farmer's respect as a bow hunter and I think he likes the fact that I help him watch his property.

Well, "friends of his son" came out during gun season last year and shot at everything they saw and ended up wounding (and not recovering) "several" deer.

I'm lucky because now he's going to make sure NO ONE else hunts this property - just me now. But I'm worried that if he has any more problems with other "hunters" that he'll just say NO HUNTING PERIOD!

SLOB "HUNTERS" DON'T BELONG IN THE WOODS!

[Swamp Ghost]

MB, get used to more slobs in the woods and even harder access to private lands.

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?p=781240#post781240

[dongiese]

Sorry to hear that MB.

That has happened to me once or twice. well not as nice of property as that but it was a place to hunt.

[NorthJeff]

That's terrible. On the otherhand, I've had property to hunt BECAUSE of slob hunters. Sometimes when they know you are not one, they allow you to hunt so they can tell all the slobs to hunt elsewhere.

Crying shame though but unfortunately it doesn't surprise me...at all. Seems hunting ethics are just words in the past that a surprisingly large number of hunters don't recognize and are not taught.

[Pinefarm]

Bummer. Maybe you can talk them into an exclusive lease?

[mich buckmaster]

The good part is that I have a good report with them, and I think that they may need to cool down for a year, and then I will be presenting a lease to them come next spring!!!!!!!!!! It just makes me sick!!!!!!!!

[NorthJeff]

I wouldn't wait until next spring MB. I wouldn't beg, but along with money I'd go offer to work for them for a weekend doing any dirty work they want. If they like you and see how seriously interested you are, and willing to not only pay but work and spend some time, you might be in. Maybe just wait about a month and then approach them.

Maybe you already did that, but don't let that good report fade over the next year....kill em with kindness. Maybe there is still time to pick up the others trash and damages. You could even approach it like, "I know you don't want any hunters around, but I've always enjoyed talking with you and the report we have, and I'm hoping you will allow me to at least pick up the trash that the others left behind because it's not how I want you to view hunters".

Good Luck!!

[farmlegend]

Forget about the antis. The biggest threat to the future of hunting are the pigs that call themselves hunters.

[Sib]

I probably wouldn't wait on corresponding with them, either. I'd draft them a real nice letter and a few pages, at that. I'd start by thanking them for the opportunity over the years and make it a point of saying how you were able to spend some quality time with your family during that time. What it meant to you to take your children to hunt* with you and how special it was to be able to spend time with your father during the twilight of his life* (I belive I read in a post of your's that he had emphysema). Toward the end of the letter I'd work in the idea of a lease, or a work to hunt situation and make sure it was very obvious there was something in it for them. REading your trespass thread, it goes to show during the hunting seasons it helps to have a steward of the land to look out for the property owner and you'd be a damn good one at that.

* I wouldn't pull their heart strings, or lie, but I do get the impression that those are indeed things that are very important to you and expressing your gratitude is always appropriate, imo.

[quillbackCARPSUCKER]

Sorry to hear about that MB, but at least the land wasn't sold to developers...The woods/farmland in SW mich(especially Kent County) is disappearing at an alarming rate. My family had a 500+ acre lease that we practiced QDM on and now its all been sold to developers. I still had permission on some great properties the last two seasons, but guess what? Yep, sold to developers! :bash: 5 years ago, I had over 1000 acres of good deerhunting land available to me. Now, I'm back to looking for a place to bowhunt! :rant: With the amount of woods/farmland that I've seen being developed around my area in the last few years, I can't imagine how hard it will be to find a good spot to hunt SW MIch in 10 years :sad:

[mich buckmaster]

I would buy a piece of land but around here property is going over $5000 an acre.

I was hunting some HAP land a few years back that is GREAT hunting, and I went where NO ONE else could go via canoe, and now that 450 acres is going for 2.5 million dollars. I am a school teacher and I cannot afford to buy hunting land around SW Mich.

As others have stated the developers around here are buying everything up!!

Oh Well!!!

[One Eye]

Forget about the antis. The biggest threat to the future of hunting are the pigs that call themselves hunters.

These are not hunters, they are criminals. Let's see, littering, careless discharge of a firearm, destruction of private property. Sounds like criminals to me. I agree that these types of idiots are more of a threat than anything.

Dan

[bigmike]

That sucks,a few screw it up for the good ones. Maybe your luck will change, go talk to them maybe they will understand.:bash:

[tedshunter]

Sorry to hear your perdicament,I know the feeling I lost out on a farm I used to hunt in Huron Co. it was over 1600 acres prime deer hunting for that area lots of woods/creek bed surrounded by crops corn/soybean.Well I got to hunt it for 4 years and got quite a few deer off of it.But one year I showed up and he said he wasnt letting anyone hunt except the farm hands that worked for him.He said he was tired of people bothering him while he was trying to do his work(mind you he had about 50-75 cows he had to feed and milk)He was in the public access program and it said right in the book self registration.If you want to talk to a dairy farmer you better do your talking before 7 o"clock they go to bed early.But I lucked out and he told me that if I wanted I could hunt some other land that he owned a few miles away.It was an ok piece of land but not near as good as the main farm.Well I guess the moral of the story is cherish every season that you get to hunt a particular parcel of land,because next year you may not be able to.Unfortunatly the slob hunters and some that just don't use common sense make it harder for us REAL outdoorsmen to gain access to hunt private land.

[fairfax1]

PETA, Humane Society, Friends of Animals, or all of the anti-hunting tree-huggers combined ......none of those folks have ever cost me a chance to hunt in my neck-of-the-woods. But men-acting-badly-with-guns and calling themselves hunters have.

From shooting the farm cat, keeping gates open, tossing trash, leaving gut-piles practically in the farmers' yard... it goes on and on. This past fall a farmer friend showed me where bow-hunters had driven a quad into his corn-field knocking down stalks in order to create a shooting lane.

Where are the editorials in our outdoor tabloids & magazines decrying this reversion to "slobbism" when some folks go out to the woods. It seems easier for editors to get screechy over some grandma protesting a dove hunt than it is for them to lecture their readers on good manners.

Personally, I can understand the grandma....I can't understand the boors.

[WAUB-MUKWA]

The same thing happened up here. A bunch of guys are hunting CFR land but they cut down big pines for shooting lanes in their new tower blinds and cut tress down thru a cedar swamp so they could use their ATV's to get around. They are all from Macomb County. Most are retired fire fighters and if the owner don't kick them off I will this year. :evilsmile

[hartman886]

and cut tress down thru a cedar swamp so they could use their ATV's to get around. Most are retired fire fighters

I think fire fighters call that forceable entry.

One thing I will add .If you get permission make clear what is expected of you up frunt....Blinds,times, seasons, if you may bring a friend, what drive to use or where you should park, areas to stay out of........this may help prevent confusion later and having to bug the land owner.
Chris