2 Stroke Kicker Question

[mike h]

I know a lot of you guys run 4 stroke kicker motors on your boats and i wish i had the $$$ to but i don't. What I do have is a 15hp 2 Stroke and i was wondering if this motor would work out for me as a kicker motor so i don't have to go out and buy a new 4 stroke. I have had this motor for a while and it is an awesome little motor.

Do any of you guys even have a 2 stroke kicker on your boat and if so do they fowl plugs out running at low rpm's.

I am just trying to save some money if i can that is needed in other areas.
Thanks for any reply

[shadow7663]

Mike H. How big is your boat?

[Gone Fishing]

Throw it on there Mike, you’ll be pleased with its performance. I used a 15 HP Johnson 2 stroke for 9 years on my 24 Wellcraft and never had a problem. I changed the plugs and gear case lube every year and it was good to go. :)

[mike h]

Throw it on there Mike, you’ll be pleased with its performance. I used a 15 HP Johnson 2 stroke for 9 years on my 24 Wellcraft and never had a problem. I changed the plugs and gear case lube every year and it was good to go. :)

John that is the same motor that i have and it idles down to about nothing and has never had any problems.

[mike h]

Do you guys think this motor is to big for a kicker motor on a 16.5 boat. The reason i am asking is my brother told me today that he would trade me for his 9.9 motor that is also a 2 stroke.

[Ed Michrina]

Mike I have a 15 hp Johnosn on my tiara is works great and a 15 merc 4 stroke on my 16 foot river boat. As far as to much, it depends what type of 16 1/2' boat you have if it is heavy (IE: floor windshild internal tank ect) it should be just fine. a 9.9 and 15 hp will idle down same. They are the same motor but the 15 has a little higher rpm's at the top end. I'm sure someone can elaborate on this further. If I were you I'd use it . It would make a great second motor to get to port if the big motor fails.

[FishTales]

Outboard Motor Specs (http://www.defender.com/inflatables/engine_specs.html)
Not sure what makes the difference between 9.9 & 15 hp, same bore, same stroke, same rpm, and the weight is the same.
Click on the link and check the specs for your brand and compare the two.
By the way, I compared the Johnson 9.9 / 15.
Rich

[WALLEYE MIKE]

Outboard Motor Specs (http://www.defender.com/inflatables/engine_specs.html)
Not sure what makes the difference between 9.9 & 15 hp, same bore, same stroke, same rpm, and the weight is the same.
Click on the link and check the specs for your brand and compare the two.
By the way, I compared the Johnson 9.9 / 15.
Rich

Carburetion is the differance.

[mike h]

Mike I have a 15 hp Johnosn on my tiara is works great and a 15 merc 4 stroke on my 16 foot river boat. As far as to much, it depends what type of 16 1/2' boat you have if it is heavy (IE: floor windshild internal tank ect) it should be just fine. a 9.9 and 15 hp will idle down same. They are the same motor but the 15 has a little higher rpm's at the top end. I'm sure someone can elaborate on this further. If I were you I'd use it . It would make a great second motor to get to port if the big motor fails.


Ed you just described my boat (IE: floor windshild internal tank ect) and that is what i thought but was not sure. I am trying to set this up to do a lot of River fishing like Handlining and Trolling for EYE'S. (just don't have the money to go buy a big boat)

Does anybody have any links to some hardware to hook the kicker to the main motor so it can be steered with the wheel or is there a better way to do this.

[BVG]

You can get Motor Connector Rods at Bass pro or Cabelas.
Here is the link for Cabelas
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/pod/standard-pod.jhtml?id=0000930&navAction=push&navCount=2&indexId=cat21322&parentId=cat21322&parentType=index&rid=&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fcatalog%2Fpod-link.jhtml_A&_DAV=MainCatcat21276

I have used a 2 stroke kicker for several years and I love it.
I mounted mine on a adjustable motor mount and I can set my motor so the water intake is just in the water.
With the motor mounted off center, the skeg is about 2" below my keel.
I can run my duckboat in about 12-14 inches of water.

BVG

[Gone Fishing]

Take a look at foot steering for handlining and jigging. It keeps your hands free which is pretty nice. Here's a thread where it was discussed:
http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17500&highlight=foot+steering

[mike h]

Boy John you are really fast today (must be a slow day at work) ;) Thanks for all the help

[andy capp]

If your boat is 16.5......What are you running for main power?

I have a 16.5 and run a 40hp and handline and troll fine with it. Kicker may not be needed. I have found that may be too much weight hanging on the back of the boat.

[BVG]

My boat trolls fine with the 40hp.
I have a 1971 Mercury 40hp and a 1970 Mercury 7.5hp.
My boat is a 16' open Sea Nymph and will ride a bit lopsided with the kicker.
I put my gas tank on the oposite side from the kicker for ballast.
With a 34 year old main motor it is nice to have the reassurance of the kicker.
It also lets me run in very shallow water for duck hunting.
I also never go out in the big lake (Huron or Erie) with the kicker on the back.
With 2 motors, gas can, and battery the back gets low enough that a big wave from the back could be a problem.

[mike h]

I am running a 75hp motor on the back. Is it possible to use this for trolling and handlining.

[BVG]

If your 70hp will not troll slow enough there are some things you can try:
1: a trolling plate that drops down infront of the prop
2: drag a sea anchor or a couple of 5 gal buckets behind you.
3: if you have one try a lower pitch prop

good luck
BVG

[andy capp]

If you are going to handline you want to troll buckets from the bow.

I didn't realize a 75. you just stated a 16.5 dindn't state typical deep v , or what type it was. If you are running a 75 I assume you are not running a typical rowboat, running more like a fishhawk or something along those lines.

[mike h]

If you are going to handline you want to troll buckets from the bow.

I didn't realize a 75. you just stated a 16.5 dindn't state typical deep v , or what type it was. If you are running a 75 I assume you are not running a typical rowboat, running more like a fishhawk or something along those lines.

Sorry about that Andy The boat is a Spectrum it is a 16.5 V and has windshield-full floor-gas tank built under the floor with a 75 horse on the back.

[shadow7663]

My boat is similar to Mike H's 17ft aluminum full floor windshield ect ect.

Differance is my gas is in the back not under the floor and I only have a 55h.p motor.

I am now starting to think about a trolling plate for my outboard. However before I do so I would like some input on weather its good or bad for the motor as far as carboning up, will it slow me down enough. I would like to be able to get it down to 1 m.p.h. or less.

[gilly]

I used to have ,as everyone else did around here, a 14 footer with my trusty 15hp Evinrude two stroke for years and years. This was the predominant setup for handlining in these parts. The darn thing never loaded up and you could troll all night after night. If anything the larger boat you have will allow a bit higher RPM for the same slow troll, steady walking pace, as it would have on a smaller open style 14-16 footer. That being said, you will have even less issue with the motor loading up, etc. since you will be at higher RPMs for the same pace. Many of us would run the same plugs for years without any problems whatsoever. Probably one of the best running and most dependable motors ever built. PS- My brother in law bought the boat from me and the ole '88 motor still purrs like new. Stick with the 15 for the boat you have as they both weigh about the same- as I recall 68lbs or so. Once you feel the head shake with your handline you will be hooked.

[RJF]

Where you will benefit from a 4 stroke kicker is you can run from the main motor’s gas tank. You will find little room for the portable tank to run the 2 stroke kicker. As for performance, other than a quieter sound, the 2 stroke will perform just as well.