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Icedog34
03-14-2005, 07:58 AM
I have been a long time reader of this site, but this is the first post. I was fishing out of Fairhaven on Sat afternoon/evening and watched this bozo http://www.icefishingmichigan.com/forum/images/smilies/rant.gif
pack up his shanty and gear and promptly leave 2 empty propane tanks, a six pack of cans and a bag of trash on the ice. I did pick this s**t up on my way back in. This is the third or fourth time this season I have seen this happen. Is it so hard to take your trash back when you leave? Sorry if this post makes somebody angry, but leaving your trash on the ice makes me angry. Where do you think that crap goes? Please be responsible and take your trash with you!!!
There is enough junk in the lake already we don't need to add to it!!! Thanks




Huron River Dan
03-14-2005, 08:21 AM
Good Job! It's a shame that sportsmen have to pick up after the slobs, but it seems to be a fact of life anymore. Seems like every time I go ice fishing I end up picking up after some idiot that thinks it's OK to just leave their garbage lay. It would be nice to be able to get their home address and take the crap they leave on the ice and dump it in their front yard.

Dan

Fishfoote
03-14-2005, 08:45 AM
"Sorry if this post makes somebody angry, but leaving your trash on the ice makes me angry. Where do you think that crap goes? Please be responsible and take your trash with you!!!"

I'd like to think this doesn't apply to any members of this site - judging by those I have met, I'm sure it is not.

Good job on picking up - no matter who it was in this instance, there will always be slobs out there and part of being a real sportsman is making sure they (the slobs) don't win.

tedshunter
03-14-2005, 09:03 AM
I too have picked up alot of trach in my years of ice fishing.One thing I have noticed is that it is usually the drinkers that leave the crap behind.It is like they get drunk and seem to forget that they brought anything with them that they should maybe take back?Now dont get me wrong I dont have anyhting against drinking,just be responsible and take your empties back to the store where you bought them.I mean if you can lug a 12 pack out there you can lug the 12 empties back to your car,after all they are lighter when they are empty:D It is too bad that we people who care about our resourses have to keep picking up these slobs trash.Maybe the C.O.'S SHOULD SPEND A LITTLE MORE TIME WRITING TICKETS FOR LITTERING instead of bugging most of us that have a fishing lisense and are doing nothing illigal.Just my .02.

baydog2
03-14-2005, 09:47 AM
I,ve seen and picked up the trash on the ice and banks too. To bad the slobs never seem to leave gear on the ice or bank as often. :mad: Last year just got down to river and started fishing as a group left. I noticed bottles and cans and trash along with 2 nice rod holders left behind. As they drove past the parking lot I just shook my head and told my buddy they did not have to pay me so much for picking up their trash. Outcome was one grocery sack of trash equaled about $3.00 in deposits and 2 free rod holders. :lol: I felt like the old commercial with the indian crying looking at the trash, but it would have been me with a smile. :)

Lonnie

Dawg
03-14-2005, 09:49 AM
I went off Ginos Saturday. It was so bad I went back and filled a jet sled yesterday.

ICEGUY
03-14-2005, 10:05 AM
Welcome to the site ICEDOG34. :)

stinger63
03-14-2005, 10:17 AM
This is always a problem and will do nothing but continue to get worse as more and more people get involved in this hobby
.Its a shame that there are these kind of people but like it not the rest of us are either going to educate these people(which unfortunately probaly doesnt matter because they are just slobs anyways) or be the custodians of the outdoors.Some people just have no respect for the outdoors.

Icedog34
03-14-2005, 11:05 AM
There will always be the people that care and the people that don't.Thanks for the support!!! http://www.icefishingmichigan.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif and thanks for the welcome!!! I hope to meet some of you on the ice if not this season maybe next. I have read this board for quite awhile and just needed to vent. The one thing I did not mention the first time I posted was that I had my 10 yr old son with me on Saturday (his first time ice fishing).
I try to instill in him the importance of taking care of the outdoors and I think he learn a good lesson. Again thnaks for the welcome!! http://www.icefishingmichigan.com/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

WALLEYE MIKE
03-14-2005, 11:16 AM
Just wonder what these guys houses look like. :yikes:

tedshunter
03-14-2005, 12:03 PM
I could only imagine:yikes: I bet thier Mom used to pick up after them when they were children.

buffalo man
03-14-2005, 12:07 PM
YES YOUR POST MAKES ME ANGRY. angry that we even have to talk about it. but like someone said there probably not people from this site. i've met a few and went to and outing on the ice with some. guy's drinking beers, bar-ba-quen hot dogs, all kinds of food and stuff all over the place. there must of been 30 or so guys through this area all day i stayed fishing till most were gone. and what do you know the place was spotless you wouldn't have even know there was people fishing there if it wasn't for a few holes here and there. thats when i knew that these men and woman were the real deal true sportsman coming together sharing there sport and when they were done nobody even knew they were where.
i talked about this earlier in the year having an outing and do a spring cleanup of the areas we vist most, right up the line from the launch at crocker up to the launch at fairhaven. i'm just waiting for the snow to clear. until then i'll keep doing my part and recommit to not just *itching about the problem but do something about it walking out of may way to pick some trash up. this came to me one day while on the ice with may son i seen a empty propane tank on the ice and went in to a rant about how people are so desrepectful and on an on till i just stopped shut up and turned around and sam said what are you doing dad i said i'll show you i walked back picked it up and put it with are trash. why did you do that . i told him if i'm going to *itch and complane i should be willing to do something about it and that was the day i started doing something about it it's the little things. same son and i were out with his friend and a empty went blowing across the ice he told his friend to go get that we can't leave that crap blowing around and they went an run it down. see they do listen
thanks buffalo

tedshunter
03-14-2005, 12:14 PM
If only them slobs that leave the garbage behind had been instilled with the ethics you are teaching your son maybe we would not be discussing this.I am afraid it will only get worse because alot of people just dont spend the time with thier kids like our folks did while we were growing up.Until it gets better all we can do is our part and pick up after the slobs because they will never go away as easy as we would like them to.

Will Work For Fish
03-14-2005, 12:39 PM
All kinds of pigs out there. Sunday at Metro Beach a guy asked if I wanted his few perch. I said no. He began to dig through his equipment to get to the fish and I said loudly, I don't want them. I kept repeating "NO" but he dumped them on the ice right by my hole and kicked snow atop them untill they were buried then walked away.

I wonder if this could be the same pig who dumped perch in the trash can at the boat launch last week?

icefisher_62
03-14-2005, 02:59 PM
I have seen dumped on the trash quite a few times in fair haven, and it seems like when you say something to the people who left it, they get mad at me for saying something to them, they think it's going to disappear.

Ed Stringer
03-14-2005, 03:22 PM
Hmm funny you should say, last week Patti found a bag of trash looked in side no trash just some jigs and 2 doz. of waxies and a $1.55 in change thanks pigs. This has been a problem for ever all we can do is hope for the best to come out of others someday.

ih772
03-14-2005, 05:02 PM
Seems like just about every trip out for me I'm picking up some idiots trash they left on the ice. I bet it's the same type of people that have no problem dumping their trash in the parking areas in the state game areas.

UnkaD
03-14-2005, 05:45 PM
I too have been know to pick up other peoples trash, and not happy about it.....This is just an idea but maybe we can get the DNR or someone to put some no littering signs at lake access's... like.. If you haul it out,, Haul it in..
If anything it might be a reminder :SHOCKED: :SHOCKED: Give a Hoot don't pollute :SHOCKED: :SHOCKED:

walleye magnet
03-14-2005, 05:54 PM
Cleaned up someone mess on the north lake in Stoney Creek and the icing on the cake was 13 marginal bluegill and crappie left on the ice.

Walleye Magnet
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MiketheElder
03-14-2005, 06:01 PM
Jeff, the guy who has the ice taxi business at Cotton Road and I were talking about this very thing yesterday. He picks up so much trash that he has to empty out two or three times a day. Sometimes when he goes to pick some people up he has to admonish them to pick up their trash and put it in his rig. If they don't then he makes them wait while he picks it up himself.

Wish this guy luck if you ever see him. He's got health problems but you'd never know it.

Big Mike

Maybe we could create a good-guy award from this website. Something like "This business endorsed by The Michigan Sportsman Website".

fishindude644
03-14-2005, 07:24 PM
hey icefisher good job on saying something to them. they were just showing their ignorance when they got mad.

SpartanAngler
03-14-2005, 07:32 PM
It sickens me as well, but once this year when I picked up someone elses trash on the ice there was a full propane tank sitting there with the cap still on. Must have been karma. Thanks to everyone who does care about the lakes. I think a lot of it has to do with how someone is raised.

Some peoples kids :mad:

tedshunter
03-14-2005, 07:55 PM
If I was the ice taxi guy and I asked someone to pick up thier trash and they didnt,they would be walking back and they would be put in my black book(no more rides from me):D

William H Bonney
03-14-2005, 08:29 PM
To be honest, this year has been "mild" compared to years past as far as the garbage goes. I fish outta Crocker alot and in years past it always looked like 2 garbage trucks wrecked, right there at the launch. This year it hasn't been bad at all, although theres been alot less people there this year. I know as soon as the ice is gone, it'll look like the "city dump" again.

Wageoar
03-15-2005, 07:01 AM
I really don't think there is much sportsmen can do to stop the slobs from destroying our lakes and woods. Slobs are going to be slobs at home or on the water. If we happen to be around when they are leaving behind a load of trash we can mention something. If we happen to have a cell phone with us we can report them. I think our only hope is to educate our youth, our children, grandchildren and any child who will listen. My sons were taught from youth not to litter and hopefully they still abide by this rule. Can't think of a more sickening sight than a river bank littered with worm containers, plastic bottles and cigarette butts.