WOW!! Lake Erie report

[stampman]

Last 5 days on Erie. Last thurs. 11 keepers 21 under size by 1:30 P.M. Had to give 5 to fellow fisherman. Fri. 9 keepers ( 3 give aways) 14 under size by 4:30. Sat. 6 keepers left at noon ( tired of giving fish away). Sunday 5 keepers by 6: P.M. many under size. Mon. rain all day left at 2:30 6 keepers. By far the best 5 days on the ice ever. 8 fish between 8 and 10 lbs. 1-- 11lbs 2 oz. 8 miles out around Kellys Island. Ice conditions going bad. Worst ice I have seen. Alot of slush, honey comb,dirty ice. When this ice starts deteriorating it will go fast. Sorry no pictures but will swear on my vexilar true story. :) :) :)

[outdoor addict]

:confused: stampman nice job on the fish. but doesn't the other fish count against your limit? If you caught and kept 11 the first night and gave 5 away you still kept 5 over your limit. Don't want to sound rude but if your tired of giving fish away only catch your limit. ;)

[BrowTine]

Hey uh, yeah....

Dont think giving those fish away after keeping your limit was legal...

[hiddenlake]

:) :) :) :)

[stampman]

I have fish many a times with 2 people in a boat where you are allowed 30 fish per person. One guy catches 20 fish the other catches 40 fish. Is the guy who catches his 30 suppose to stop fishing. I have seen many times where a group will combine their catches for limits. Even if your with a guide, you can count him as a person with you. If I am wrong, I guess should lay down my poles and wait till everyone else catcthes their limits. Sorry :confused:

[William H Bonney]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say theres more than a "few" members that have done the same thing. I for one have. I can remember salmon fishing as a kid with my dad,,, he would always let me reel in all the fish. Did we break the law? Techniqully,,,, ya. :rolleyes:

[Splitshot]

Stampman, you did good and it was a nice gesture to help some of the other fishermen out. Now you should probably turn yourself in. lol

Sometimes it makes people feel morally superior when they point out your mistakes.

[TrailFndr]

I have fish many a times with 2 people in a boat where you are allowed 30 fish per person. One guy catches 20 fish the other catches 40 fish. Is the guy who catches his 30 suppose to stop fishing.
Legally? YES...he is. a Limit is a limit according to the law. If you were to get caught...you would have earned the ticket.

I won't judge...but the facts are the facts...

[outdoor addict]

Like I stated Was no being rude just stated a fact. If your tired of giving fish away how bout something called CATCH AND RELEASE. Never said you had to quit fishing. And whats up with everyone being pokey lately hell seems like every other post someone's taken a poke or too. :evil:

[double trouble]

ohio law is weird about fish on a stringer. you can only release your last fish caught ,so if that wall mounter came after your 5 or 6 fish limit it is not considered a legal catch. even sub-legal size fish in possession if you forgot to kick back in(say the bite is on) immediatly count as your possession and not only do you get a fine for undersize but also for being over the limit.its all about money in ohio.i've seen trucks and boats confiscated.what he did is against the law ,but at least he admits it and knows how to not get caught by the overzealous ohio d.n.r. militia.thanks for sharing the reel facts.

[fish eater]

Jeez, why does everything have to be so scrutinized and anal lately? Good job on the fish dude, hey, more power to ya if your findin em cuz alot of guys haven't been lately. Nice of you to give someone else a walleye dinner. Puttin food on the table. Isn't that what this hobby is supposed to be about? Isn't that the reason why all of us are here reading this post right now? And these possession limits!? You almost have to take a class to understand all the changes and fineprint. If you have a 5 or 6 fish limit, and you catch number 6 or 7 that's a better eater, can't you just let a live one swim away to swap them out? I thought they were a daily possession limit, not a catching limit. Isn't that what the pros do? Say, Kevin Van Dam has his 5 bass in the livewell. He's got 45 minutes til he has to be to the weigh-in and he catches a hog. Don't they take the smallest bass out of the livewell and replace it with the hog? How's that any different than us? Just my thoughts on the matter. And no, I'm not trying to start any kind of debates or anything. Brother, some guys are so touchy right now. Just chill people, it's all good. Just little creatures with gills, fins, delicious and nutritious filets. Can't get so worked up over em.:)

[neversunk]

Jeez....why don't you just make him take his revolver down to one loaded cylinder and spin it before putting it up against his head.....its only a friggin few fish for gosh sakes that he gave to an unlucky fisherman to eat.....if he were on the Canadian side of Lake Erie he could be keeping walleye 8 inches long and putting nets out the side of a boat and selling them at a market..... :lol:

[Ricky Missum]

Contact home land security, secure as much info as possible, who knows what's next, getting in the express line with 13 items and only being allowed 12????????????????????????????? We all must take a stand or our world as we know it will come to a end!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[neil duffey]

come on guys... limits 30 fish or what ever... theres friggin 2 guys fishing and 50 fish in the boat... i caught 20 my buddy caught 30... how in gods good heaven is a CO gunna be able to go... "yup, u caught those 30 and ur still fishing... ur in trouble" he cant... i simply caught 25 and need 5 more and the other guy caught 25 and needs 5 more... lets not get anal about things. :tdo12: :lol:

[hoffie1]

Theres a good reason that most members here do not post.To many of you high & mighty people pick away on their posts!Some of you people need to get a life.Pointing out a possible mistake is one thing but ripping into someone is another.Like someone else said most of us have at one time or another have given away fish after our limits.Good job on the eyes stampman.
hoffie

[fishindude644]

its starting to sound like it.

[BrowTine]

Hey I said something about it.

Now he knows.

Better me than a C.O...

Great week fishin Stamp...must have been a blast.

For the others who think no one should say anything.....
I didnt realize this practice was so accepted and defended. What the heck, just a few walleyes. Does it apply to deer, turkeys and other fish too? wink wink

[rivrat1959]

" But sir, we all do it " I'd say the CO isnt gonna buy that :bash:

and to answer you question niel duffy. I'm pretty sure you and your partner's fish are suppose to be kept seperate.

Doesnt mattter anyway "We all do it" :confused: :gaga:

Btw that was some excellant catches stampman

[walleyechaser]

Stampman,
First of all, good job on the fish and thanks for the honest report.
A number of members have ripped into you in one way or another
and some a little less brutaly.
The point is that you probably won't often repeat or at least mention
giving away fish again.
Honestly though, I have a minor problem with critisizing you in light
of what goes on day in and day out on Lake Erie and other places.
First off, a daily limit is a daily limit anyway you try to spin it but
when the charter boats are operating, the captains and mates often
keep their limit as well as the paying clients' limits and they all go
home with the paying customer. Sometimes they do 2, 1/2 day trips
and limit out with both sets of customers which constitutes double
the daily limit for both captain and crew.
Until there is fairness in the system and uniformity in enforcement
I will have a hard time passing judgement on you.
Again, Good Fishing and thanks for the report.

[Chuck1]

I am sure the guys that you gave the fish to appreciated it. I also will help the guy's I'm fishing with get there limit. I'll be hanging from the same tree my friend.

[MUSHY1]

Do you guys remember the guy on the play ground that would say something negative about something that is Positive. Sounds like somebody wants to pick a freaking fight about something that is good, but wants to burst ones bubble when its going good. There are just people that like to hear themselves think.

Mushy1

[walleyechaser]

Mushy,
I think there's more people out there that like to listen to themselves
talk rather than think. Is this possibly because no one listens to
them ?

[neil duffey]

and to answer you question niel duffy. I'm pretty sure you and your partner's fish are suppose to be kept seperate.


never heard that rule in my life... ven my grandfather(god rest his soul) a very very avid salmon boat captain, always put all the days catch into one cooler... never got introuble for that... even when we did get stopped for checks. idk... :confused: just seams silly to me. but ill check up on it.

[mike h]

You know what really gets me about this thread is if stampman would have started off saying he caught someone doing what he did and told them it was not right most would be posting about how he did the right thing. I just don't see how one guy says he stopped an act like this and everybody congradulates him for doing the right thing and then another says he did this and most tell him it's allright. Not trying to pick a fight i just don't get it.

[Gone Fishing]

I tend to agree with you Mike H.

In summary:
Is it legal? No, it is not.
Do people do it? Yes, people do it.
Have I done it? Yeah, I've done it. I have a counter when Perch fishing and everybody clicks it when they put a fish in the cooler.
Is is right? Since it is not legal, I guess you can answer that for yourself.

[Splitshot]

In the scheme of things Stampman broke the law, we know that. If he would have been asking that question, we would have told him that. His post was about his success and how he shared his good fortune with other fishermen and was posting a report.

My opinion is if someone wanted to pop his bubble they should have done it using the PM feature and not tried to embarrass him. This is just my personal opinion, but I am not to thrilled by the ethics police who try to gain stature by pointing out the other guys mistake. If it would had been a serious violation it would have been different.

Like John, I have done the same thing many times and will probably continue to do it because I don’t agree with the rule. I will also accept responsibility if I get caught. If you want to label me for doing it, go for it. I don’t know the real purpose behind this rule, but I don’t think it was meant to punish someone for helping out less fortunate fishermen.

John, aren’t you supposed to have a separate container for each fisherman. Other wise I don’t know how you keep track. Besides I can’t imagine stopping Paul Jr. from fishing after he catches his 25, 50 or whatever.

It is a serious matter even pointing out in public that someone is a violator. Most of the members here try to be ethical so if you read where someone unintentionally breaks a law, use the PM and save that person the embarrassment.

[hiddenlake]

You guys need to catch some fish :fish:

[outdoor addict]

like i said in my post before not trying to be rude. Good idea splitshot on the pm never really crossed my mind. Was just responding to the fact that he said was tired of giving fish away. If you dont want to give fish away only catch your limit. Sure i like everyone else has given fish away. But if your tired of doin so than dont do it. As to the rest of the little comments that were rude and not needed. Get a life and quit being so damn childish. :lol:

[hoffie1]

Outdoor addict
Nothing personal but this happens ALL the time on these boards(post after post telling them they screwed up).I could/maybe should use different wording sometimes but it gets the point across.Good fishin to all.

hoffie

[Islander26]

Nice job on the catch :D Hand the pole to your budy and let him pull it up on the ice after you 've had your fun fighting it :lol:

[Splitshot]

My intention is not to be critical of some of you about being critical of someone else but sometimes it happens. Like Hoffie says, it is nothing personal. I can tell you that you are the one being chastised it feels personal and that is the only point I’m trying to make. It does happen often and in my opinion it shouldn’t.

When someone digs you, it is only normal to do it to that person or maybe take it out on someone else. When a guy has a good day and posts his success we should try to congratulate him because that is what we would like to happen when we post something. It makes sense. Lots of people don’t post because they don’t want to be bashed. I hope you get my point.

Outdoor attict, I don't believe you were trying to be rude and you make some good points, especially about me being so dam childish! :)

[MAttt]

Nice Catch stampman! And good to see that you share amongst friends.
This is what fishing is all about to me.
I wish I had your problem right about now. LOL!

I would never share amongst strangers, since you never know whom they might be. Might just turn out to be some of these folks who have their waders adjusted a little 2 tight.

Sometimes when the fishings bad, between 3 or 4 of us, we will take turns taking the fish home.

Now as far as the daily limit goes...are we talking about the AM daily limit or the PM daily limit?
If I go out twice in the same day, I definitely am starting back at 0 for the second shift.

[William H Bonney]

LMAO!!! This oughta get good now,,,,, get out the "flamethrowers".

[bclinton]

"If I go out twice in the same day, I definitely am starting back at 0 for the second shift." by mattt.


all right guys let him have it.:bash:

[MAttt]

You guys need to catch some fish :fish:




:yeahthat:

[The Whale]

Occasionally, I mean very ocasionally, I work a three-shift day ! ;) ;) ;)

[Northwoods]

Hey Matt, thats like commiting forum suicide. :xzicon_sm :yikes: You better duck now.:dizzy: They're going to tear you a new one.:sad:

[fishindude644]

Danger!! Snowmobile Goes Through On Brest Bay!!!!!!!

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Helped a guy who went through on his snowmobile today. not sure where he went through but he had bee walking for a little while before he reached me and he was wet from head to toe. he said he went completly under but was able to climb back out. Again im not sure where he went through so be very,very,very careful. alot of slush pies out there too. pucker factoris about a 7 or 8 out of 1-10. i took him out to his shanty and told him to take all of his wet clothes off and turn the heaters and lanterns on to get his body temp back up. he had his boy with him so he was able to help. then i gave them both a ride back to my truck with all their gear and drove them back to their vehicle so they could get some dry clothes and figure out how to get the sled out. he was very lucky to get out.

[fishingrookie]

Danger!! Snowmobile Goes Through On Brest Bay!!!!!!!

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Helped a guy who went through on his snowmobile today. not sure where he went through but he had bee walking for a little while before he reached me and he was wet from head to toe. he said he went completly under but was able to climb back out. Again im not sure where he went through so be very,very,very careful. alot of slush pies out there too. pucker factoris about a 7 or 8 out of 1-10. i took him out to his shanty and told him to take all of his wet clothes off and turn the heaters and lanterns on to get his body temp back up. he had his boy with him so he was able to help. then i gave them both a ride back to my truck with all their gear and drove them back to their vehicle so they could get some dry clothes and figure out how to get the sled out. he was very lucky to get out.

It was dangerous at least from what I saw last weekend. There were some piled up ice chunks. I have a picture took last Saturday to prove that http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=89103 also there were a lot of buckled ice - buckled inward the water. I saw the buckled ice formed a 4' to 6' wide channel with water or a thin layer ice on top. That was extremely dangerous. People should pay extra caution on the ice over there.

[hiddenlake]

As my ice fishin bud caught his 6th walleye yesterday I looked at him and said '' you gotta quit now '' Know what he said? You must be #!^&+ crazy!!! :rant: :yikes: :lol:

[Pork Chop]

People who knowingly take and keep fish and game over thier daily limit are taking something that doesn't belong to them. Most people call that stealing. The fact that it is fun or that you have rationalize it doesn't make it any less wrong. If people are bound and determined to violate the law, there is nothing anyone can say to keep them from doing so. My basic point is that the people who do observe the law should not condone the the actions of the offenders. At least call it what it is.

[TrailFndr]

People who knowingly take and keep fish and game over thier daily limit are taking something that doesn't belong to them. Most people call that stealing. The fact that it is fun or that you have rationalize it doesn't make it any less wrong. If people are bound and determined to violate the law, there is nothing anyone can say to keep them from doing so. My basic point is that the people who do observe the law should not condone the the actions of the offenders. At least call it what it is.
:yeahthat: and more than a daily limit is POACHING...No IFS...BUTS or Maybes about it!

[lawnguy]

before I say he was wrong....... did he keep the 6th and throw back a less appetizing fish? Becasue that IS legal. As long as you return a HEALTHY fish to the water you are not doing anything wrong. otherwise every tounry angler would be in fault of state laws in almost every event they fish. If he did keep the fish shame on him although I'm sure you guys aren't the first group to let someone not catching fish fill their limit from the one whom is catching. It's not like he was one lone person keeping eight fish. It's wrong to do and for you guys b*tching about it..... quit your day jobs and become C.O.'s to aid in the DNR's efforts to stop this. lol.... couldn't resist saying that!

If he kept 6 he was wrong and you should say something about it
If he didn't, you should both feel good about catchin em all!

[neversunk]

I think we need better fishing weather....if it stays bad for the rest of the week we all might start shooting each other with real guns instead of our keyboards....... :rant:

[mike h]

I wish a Moderator would close this thread already :smile-mad

[William H Bonney]

I really don't believe the majority of posts were condoning, "larceny" as you put it. I think they were pointing out how "nit-picky" some folks are. Charter boats on the great lakes do this same thing, all the time. When you and your friends pull up to the launch with a cooler full of fish and the local CO counts them and see's that you are clearly legal with the amount of fish you have, his next statement usually isn't,, " ok, who caught this one?, alright, now who caught this one?, what about this one?" What I'm getting at is,, if the LEO's don't enforce it,,, why do M-S.com members suddenly become "arm-chair LEO's?" As long as you don't exceed the legal limit of fish per man,, what's the problem with it? Are you allowed to "catch" more fish than you can "legally" keep?????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????????????????????????????????? :rolleyes:

[BrowTine]

There have been days on the detroit river, during the peak walleye run, That Ive caught 50+ eyes in a single day.

You think its ok for me to keep my 5, and give the other 45 away to all the other unlucky fishermen?

In a whole season, I could probably give away a few hundred walleyes over my limit...

If 6 over the limit for giveaway is ok....then 10 should be too...or heck why not 50...or 500?

[William H Bonney]

Lets be realistic here,,, the guy didn't catch 50 eyes, then run around to everyone else on the ice and say,, "hey,, I'm waaaay over my limit, do you guys mind taking these off my hands, so I don't get caught, with too many". I highly doubt thats what you'd be doing on the river either.

[BrowTine]

No, I really want to know where you draw the distinction....
If catching 11 walleye, keeping 6 and giving 5 away is ok...

Why isnt catching 20 walleye, and giving 14 away ok too?

Where is it that you draw the line?

[hiddenlake]

He did keep his 6th fish on our trip, thats the limit in ohio :lol:

[hiddenlake]

Thats all we caught for the day was 7, he caught his limit and I was slacking, lost a few in the hole. I love the responses I got from you good people. Going this weekend if the ice is still there, all of you are welcome to come.

[kumma]

One guy catches 20 fish the other catches 40 fish. Is the guy who catches his 30 suppose to stop fishing.

Thats why they call it a limit right?

What if he shot 15 bucks in one day mean. Is he supposed to stop after one what a jip, limits are only suggestions right?

[Trippin' Dipsies]

Here's an idea... let's all stop posting and go and catch a legal limit..........