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Bucket-Back
07-23-2004, 08:33 AM
I'm currently pulling an '96 era Matthews Feathermax at 65#,28"draw,100 gr mechanicals,Golden Futura 3D rest,Ultra Dot Scope and Aluminum Eastons,looking to move up to carbon altready,any suggestions on brand and type?Thinking about ditching scope too for better low light shooting,what's a good replacement for the Ultra Dot?It holds great groups and is sighted in but if switching arrow types might as was get all the fun out of the way at once?




Trushot_Archer
07-23-2004, 08:59 AM
You basically have the world at your feet in arrow selection now.

I'd go backwards...What would you ideal finished arrow weight be??

Than go to Easton's chart and find one that fits...Or Gold Tips, Or Carbon Force, or Beman or Carbon Express or....

Look for straightness of .003 or less for the best results. Honestly though I shoot the PSE Dominators at .006 and, after weeding out 1 flyer of the dozen can't tell a difference btw those and the .001s.

GVDocHoliday
07-23-2004, 09:14 AM
If you go Goldtips go 7595 spine
Carbon Express 300 spine
Easton 340 spine
PSE 300 spine

NorthJeff
07-23-2004, 10:33 AM
The carbon express 200#'s are a perfect spine for that weight bow and cam combination. Generally the charts are little stiff. If you shot that bow closer to 57-58 pounds the 100's would fly better, but they become too weak at about 60-63 pounds. The 100's would fly great for you up to 60-62 pounds if you used a 80 grain point, but you are talking a very light arrow.

Stick with an arrow length around 27 to 28.5 inches with the 100s to 200's, and if you go with the 300's, you may end up having to up your weight a little and go with an arrow in the 28-29" range.

Same spine levels apply to the Gold Tips.

I've competed with your bow, the Ultra Max, Conquest, and Rival Pro with both the 100's and 200's. In fact I've shot 60 spots indoors with your bow shooting CE100's in the mid 50# range. That feather max is a great bow for both speed and accuracy. You really wouldn't find much of an increase in either by switching to one of the new models...great bow!

ArrowHawk
07-23-2004, 03:14 PM
I'd go with the PSE Carbon Force 300's Like GVDocHoliday said.

These arrows are border line for your draw weight and arrow length. If you dropped a few pounds it would put you in the 200's but if you increase your draw weight by a few pounds they the 300's would suit you better.

I would say definitely go with the 300's in this brand of arrows.

Bucket-Back
07-23-2004, 05:58 PM
Thanx for the info,my folks are bringing my bow down from Newaygo this weekend and will start breaking in my arm for now,but will be getting some new shafts ASAP! I wonder what took so long to switch.I think the old ones were pretty heavy,lots of kinetic energy.

GVDocHoliday
07-24-2004, 01:18 AM
No no, he want's the 300's for CX...TAP shows that he'd need a 27 inch arrow and a 75 grain point to even get into the orange...and that's till week. 28 inch 300's with 100 grain points puts him perfect...and a 27 inch arrow put's him just slightly stiff.

Bucket-Back
07-25-2004, 01:03 PM
Doc ,been at Algonac State Park shooting bow,noticed it's actually a 27" draw(Hey I have short arms).tried another archer's Gold Tip 7595 at 28.5"'what a difference!Can prolly pull more pounds(rated for 70#),current arrows are 27" without nock or point,would the 28"-300's still be good or by upping the draw # soften up the 27" spine?A little extra length would give a little more clearance for the broadheads,but the 27 seems OK.Or I could use a heavier broadhead(125) to soften the spine ?

NorthJeff
07-25-2004, 05:47 PM
Bucket,

Do not go with the 300's. I've won 3 national championships in the last several years shooting the Carbon Express arrows in and around your weight range. Accuracy is a must for me. The 200's are by far your best arrow for both speed and accuracy. My current set-up is the Mathews LX at a 27" draw, 28" arrows, at 64-65#'s with a 100 grain point. Sometimes I shoot an 80 grain point, but no noticable accuracy difference. Those computer charts are not real reliable for ultimate accuracy and performance. The 200's will give you the most options for your set-up. For example, as some of said, you may have to up your pounds to go with the 300's, but the 200's will allow you to not only shoot at your optimum performance, but will allow you to decrease your poundage should you need to for extreme cold hunting conditions.

The 200's are a perfect match for your set-up and type of cam you have and will allow you the most flexibility and accuracy.

Been shooting those Carbon Expresses for competition and hunting for around 7 years now...100's, 200's, 300's, as well as the 150-250 CXL's and linejammers(350's). Great arrows, but most of the carbons are really good now and are reflective in size comparisons.

By the way, the 125 points are way, way to heavy FOC for your arrows. Especially where broadheads are concerned, the more FOC your carbon arrows are, the worse they fly. You would be better off to get the right size shaft, and go from there, then to try and weight the point to extremes to compensate.

Also, as a side note, asside from accuracy, you'll get a substantial difference in speed with the 200's....10-15fps, even more if you go with an 80 grain point. Speed and accuracy...great combo!!