Fish+Pain=NO

[deputy865]

i dont know if you know but fish canot feel pain i repeat fish cannot feel pain they are missing something in there bodys that would alow them to feel pain ill put the reel article up wheni find it and type it up. what do you think about that :D :fish: :fish2: :D sorry anti's no gain for you
ANTI-FISHERMAN:0
FISHERMAN:1

what are yyour thoughts

[The Whale]

That would sure be a blow to the anti's. A solid reputable scientific study/report would be a great thing. Not quite sure how "they" can actually gauge the pain factor of a fish though. I think I'll have to continue to conduct my own study of this topic ! :yikes: :lol: :fish: Gotcha ! :fish:

[Ruler]

There was a post in Sound Off (where this should be as well) a while back with something like this. PETA basically said it was BS because one of the people involved in the study likes to fish. :rolleyes:

They are supposedly lacking some of the neurological structures in their body required to register pain as we think of it. It's similar to the fact that the brain itself cannot register pain when it has damage inflicted to it; a cool but obscure fact that they built into the movie Hannibal. The sensors (for lack of a better word - I'm not a biologist) simply don't exist in our brains to register pain. Fish lack these same type of sensors throughout their entire body.

[Hamilton Reef]

Debating PETA is like trying to potty train a duck

Do fish feel pain? The animal rights group PETA would like to convince people that it is true, and therefore outlaw fishing. It is part of their bigger agenda to ban all use and consumption of animals.

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.php?page=living&story_id=070104e2_baxterblack

[Huntin Horseman]

I've seen a litter trained duck before ;)

[mallardtone-man]

Shane, Shane, Shane, what are you talking about........................






James

[Hamilton Reef]

Did he have a blind date at college that waddled with last name duck?

[THETOOLMAN]

I don't now what you are talkig about . :lol: . so here is a cat with a lime on its head http://www.hunt101.com/img/128371.jpg (http://www.hunt101.com/?p=128371&c=500&z=1) :lol:

[deputy865]

what do you mean what am i talking about fish cannot feel pain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 :confused:

[deputy865]

This was one of my first threads trying to explain it...But here is the answer!!. ( i hope....thing :gaga: )
I know the spelling is crap and all that but here is the article..or one of them...WOW i was reading some of my old threads..I typed and sounded strange...

Professor Rose, 60, said that previous studies which had indicated that fish can feel pain had confused nociception - responding to a threatening stimulus - with feeling pain.
“Pain is predicated on awareness,” he said. “The key issue is the distinction between nociception and pain. A person who is anaesthetised in an operating theatre will still respond physically to an external stimulus, but he or she will not feel pain. Anyone who has seen a chicken with its head cut off will know that, while its body can respond to stimuli, it cannot be feeling pain.”
Anglers rest easy. Fish cannot feel pain, the largest study into piscine neurology has concluded.
An academic study comparing the nervous systems and responses of fish and mammals has found that fishes' brains are not sufficiently developed to allow them to sense pain or fear.
The study is the work of James D Rose, a professor of zoology and physiology at the University of Wyoming, who has been working on questions of neurology for almost 30 years. He has examined data on the responses of animals to pain and stimulus from scores of studies collected over the past 15 years.
His report, published in the American journal Reviews of Fisheries Science, has concluded that awareness of pain depends on functions of specific regions of the cerebral cortex which fish do not possess.
Professor Rose, 60, said that previous studies which had indicated that fish can feel pain had confused nociception - responding to a threatening stimulus - with feeling pain.


"Pain is predicated on awareness," he said. "The key issue is the distinction between nociception and pain. A person who is anaesthetised in an operating theatre will still respond physically to an external stimulus, but he or she will not feel pain. Anyone who has seen a chicken with its head cut off will know that, while its body can respond to stimuli, it cannot be feeling pain."
Professor Rose said he was enormously concerned with the welfare of fish, but that campaigners should concentrate on ensuring that they were able to enjoy clean and well-managed rivers and seas.
Despite the findings of Professor Rose's study, a spokesman for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, which has invested heavily in an anti-angling campaign, said: "We believe that fishing is barbaric. Of course animals can feel pain. They have sensitivity, if only to avoid predators."

Shane

PS i read all the posts and so i'm happy that i might be able to clear things up..

[icefishermanmark]

I disagree, but we're all entitled to our opinion. And even if they can't feel pain, we should still treat them as if they could. Because in animals, pain is a reaction that informs you something is wrong. If you were filleting a fish, and you cut your finger off but couldn't feel it you might bleed to death. So if fish can't feel pain we can still be doing damage. Bottom line, treat them as if they could feel pain. I know we've all thrown a few blue gill, and I'm not innocent of blowing a few up myself, but now I know better.

[deputy865]

lol....so i see you read the thread were i said i would bring up this one....

Yea you're right...But if you ever hurt a fish or he swallows it and you have to you know "use extra force" :rolleyes: it kind makes ya feel better..

Shane

LOl holy crap check the date on the thread..

[fishindude644]

People Eating Tasty Animals

[bolodunn]

hey buddy, whether you are wrong or right. you're not gonna get much love on here trying to prove a point about the use of "any" animal in a harmfull,unethical,childish & disrespectfull way. the mutalation of fish & game is not sportsman like.
though many people may have done the same in thier younger years, you're not gonna look too good by pushing the issue.

[RichP]

But if you ever hurt a fish or he swallows it and you have to you know "use extra force" :rolleyes: it kind makes ya feel better..


Shane, stop by a Meijer and pick up some forceps for $3.99


Debating PETA is like trying to potty train a duck

A year later this is still a very funny quote. :lol:

[waterfoul]

This thread is useless and should probably go the way of the Dodo bird.

[ESOX]

UH- yea. I have no idea why this one was dug out of the grave. It was rotting quite nicely there.