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walleye express
05-03-2004, 07:32 PM
Some of you may remember the word Ruby Reds from a few years back during the ice fishing season. They were fat head minnows that had red dye added to their water and they then turned into an almost Gold fish type color that they called Ruby Reds.

You may also be familar with the Red Diving Bill/lip craze on the Saginaw Bay. With the old Hot-N-Tots, Rattle Tots and several others having Red Bills being the only thing catching fish on many occassions.

And now you may or may not be aware of the RED hook craze the fishing lure industry is going through. Where indeed lures and rigs sporting these blood red hooks, seem to be out fishing everything else with the plane old chrome or metalic hooks on them.

I personally have not used any of these new lures with the red hooks on them yet. Nor can I or will I vouch for their effectivness over the others. I can say that red bills (on the average for me) on the Bay produce more walleyes than the regular ones during the course of the season. And when I was using the rosy red minnows, they produced over the others as well. So, just where am I going with this?

I just received an e-mail notice from Dave Storm of Daves Ka'Boom lures fame. They have come out with a new lure product called Ruby Reds. They are the new Nitro Shiners with a twist. Rather than explain anymore, I'll simply post the site address where you can see all the colors and judge for yourself. http://www.daveslures.com




Tom22
05-03-2004, 09:11 PM
Dan could it be ,that you are catching more fish on the red bill cranks, simply because you are using it more........I mean for a fair comparison, are you running other lures at the same leads, and what about inside and outside turns?,,,,,,Tom

mallardtone-man
05-03-2004, 09:50 PM
Do you know of any dealers in the area? I live by Royal Oak. Do they have a dealer locator feature? Thanks!

James

walleye express
05-03-2004, 11:27 PM
Tom22.

That's a fair question. But has an answer thats been reinforced just to many times not only by me, but by the many others who know that for some reason, the red bill factor matters often on the Saginaw Bay.

It first started with everybody buying Spike-it or pattern makers red dye and changing the bill color. Then Franks got into the frey with the red-billed customs colors they had the old Storm company start making.

I'll admit it a habbit thats hard to break. But one that hasn't let me down either.

And Mallard.

I'm guessing that any outlet that carries Daves Ka'Boom lures allready will also stock the new Ruby Reds when they receive their orders.

WALLEYEvision
05-04-2004, 12:01 AM
Some of you may remember the word Ruby Reds from a few years back during the ice fishing season. They were fat head minnows that had red dye added to their water and they then turned into an almost Gold fish type color that they called Ruby Reds...

If anyone's looking for these they might want to try Cabela's, I know they had a ton earlier in the year.

EdB
05-04-2004, 12:45 AM
Franks Great Outdoors carrys nitro shiners and have mail order service
Franksgreatoutdoors.com

YPSIFLY
05-04-2004, 12:53 AM
I'm guessing that any outlet that carries Daves Ka'Boom lures allready will also stock the new Ruby Reds when they receive their orders.

The Gander in Taylor has Ka'Booms in a bargain bin, although they are still pretty pricey at $4 or so. I thought I saw some red lips in the bin today.

chamookman
05-04-2004, 04:46 AM
Dan - Have been tieing the lead hook on My harnesses using red Mustad hooks. For the Bay, a two hook system, #4 red single followed by a #10 treble. Been using this for three Years - the red does make a differance! On the same note, every new crankbait I buy gets red marker slashes on both sides in the gill area - deadly. Bob WC#253.

sfw1960
05-04-2004, 07:25 PM
:yeahthat:
I never heard of "ruby reds" dyed minnows - but I have used "ROSY REDS" which are NOT a dyed fathead.... but indeed a naturally colored fish , albeit a fathead.... http://jumaka.com/aquarium/rosyreds.html
http://fishingminnesota.com/ubb/Forum30/HTML/002689.html
http://www.fishpondinfo.com/rosies.htm

Not the same??
Only the Shadow knows .........:woohoo1::cheeky-sm

Hunt4Ever
05-04-2004, 08:59 PM
Is Dave Storm from Dave Kaboom's Baits previously from Storm lures?

walleye express
05-04-2004, 09:05 PM
Yupper, Rosy Reds were in vogue around the mid to late 80's for a while in this neck of the woods. The DNR was always on the verge of clasifying them as illegal. And not having a steady reliable access to these hot little guys, baitshops started actually putting dye in the water with fatheads to make what was dubed Ruby Reds. I know, because I owned and operated a baitshop from 1984 to 1988. Killed one batch with the dye and turned others so Red I couldn't find them in the minnow tank. This particular fad didn't last long.

And Hunt. Yes, Dave Storm is Bill Storms son and the nephew of Gary and Dick Storm. Who, were the sons of the original Storm inventor John D. Storm. Who invented the very first Storm Production mold lure called the Glop July 3rd 1964.

stinger63
05-04-2004, 09:45 PM
I used rosy reds down south for many years.They actualy did work better for bait than shiners or fathead minnows.They were excellant for crappies and trout.I used to sein red shiners also from a local creek where I lived but they werent actualy red. :confused:They were quite colorful and much tougher than most minnows.I put some in an aqarium also and they made an attractive species to watch.Unfortunately they werent compatible with any other species in the fish tank so I had to get another one just for them.

mkroulik
05-05-2004, 05:59 AM
There is still atleast one baitshop in the Mt. Pleasant area that still sold them last year. I didn't check this winter, but I have gotten them there for the previous couple. Just to be clear, I am talking about the little goldfish like minnows. They seemed to be a bit tougher than most other types. they worked well for us on walleye thru the ice. They also seemed to help when fish were hitting short, as they were not very long, and you could get away without a stinger hook. I'll try to remember the name, and actual town the store is in. PM me if you want it, but it may take me a day or 2.

Mike

BigEyeHunter
05-05-2004, 09:25 AM
As far as the red bill fad, There is a product called renew-a-lure it comes in small bottles that look like nail polish. Just picked up a 4 pack the stuff works great they have 7-8 colors. Have not pulled anything that I have put it on but the blades and bills i have put it on look good enough for me to eat.

walleye express
05-05-2004, 09:30 AM
Stinger.

Most minnows that are found in creeks or small streams are in the Dace family. There is a particular Dace called a "Horned Dace" that has a red stripe down his sides and two nostrils that kinda stick up like two little horns, thus the name. These are tough little rascles that do (I've found) catch fish of all species when used.


I used rosy reds down south for many years.They actualy did work better for bait than shiners or fathead minnows.They were excellant for crappies and trout.I used to sein red shiners also from a local creek where I lived but they werent actualy red. :confused:They were quite colorful and much tougher than most minnows.I put some in an aqarium also and they made an attractive species to watch.Unfortunately they werent compatible with any other species in the fish tank so I had to get another one just for them.

mack300
05-06-2004, 03:09 PM
You can buy Rosy Reds at any aquarium store. I buy them once a week for the 2 ten inch Oscars I have in my aquarium. Used them a few times for ice fishing, seemed to produce when they were hesitant about regular shiners.