Granholm kills the $300 insurance fine

[Hamilton Reef]

Granholm kills the $300 insurance fine
Penalty for misplacing paper gone; here's how repeal, refunds work

That indefensible $300 fee for not carrying proof of insurance -- even when you are fully insured but simply misplaced the paper proof or forgot to carry it with you -- is history.
Gov. Jennifer Granholm signed the repeal of the ridiculousness on Thursday. The state began sending out letters last winter demanding the first $150 payment; the fee was to have been assessed at $150 a year for two years.

http://www.freep.com/news/driving/hfee2_20040402.htm

[jpollman]

Thank God ! She's finally done SOMETHING sensible.

[Neal]

Does any body notice how the media trys to make her look like a hero?

"Granholm kills the $300 insurance fine"

So she signs it into law 5 months ago, then repeals it.....our savior:rolleyes:

Neal

[jpollman]

Ya know, you're right Neal. I never thought of it that way. SHE is the one who signed it into law ! It's not like she undid something that Engler put into effect. She's just undoing something that had her blessing in the first place.

I hope we can get rid of her in the next election !

[Moron]

I hope we can get rid of her in the next election !

Along with the lawmakers that introduced and voted for it.;)

[jpollman]

Good point Moron ! :)

[deepwoods]

I won't fault someone for righting their own wrong. Hopefully she'll continue this pattern.

[Neal]

Deepwoods, I wasn't criticizing Granholm, as much as I was pointing out the bias in the media. The average Joe would look at the headline and think......cool, she saved us from a terrible evil, instead of just overturning her own decision.

the good news is this just shows, that her mind can be changed with enough public criticism.......Like maybe tha dove bill.

Neal

[Ranger Ray]

I think it was the peoples outcry that corrected her wrong. ;)

[Fishfoote]

Maybe someone she knows got nailed.

[deepwoods]

Neal,

I didn't take it that you were. I personally don't care for her and think she is bad for the state. My point was that at least is this is something I am in favor of that she has done in office.

RR,

Your right.

[Moron]

I think it was the peoples outcry that corrected her wrong.

Agreed.

But she's not the only one who wronged. It was bad legislation before it got to her office.;)

[Ranger Ray]

But she's not the only one who wronged. It was bad legislation before it got to her office
Agreed. :D

[Jimbos]

Originally posted by Neal
Does any body notice how the media trys to make her look like a hero?

"Granholm kills the $300 insurance fine"

So she signs it into law 5 months ago, then repeals it.....our savior:rolleyes:

Neal

You took the words right out of my mouth. She was too busy honoring Ceaser Chavez to have anything to do with getting around to actually help citizens of this state. :rolleyes:

I haven't checked out her rearend for a while.
http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/500/797mackinac_ArchRock1_66329_7.jpg

[Melon]

Glad to see that thing go! I haven't been busted by it, but I think it was a crappy law. :rolleyes:

[Dick Graves]

Looks like a lot of Michigan citizens complained about this law, both to their reps and the gov's office.

If we do the same thing again about the Uninsured Motorist Fund racket, maybe they will see the light and get rid of this obscene way of shaking down the people for their hard earned dollars.

Keep writing those letters, sending e-mails, faxes and phone calls when Lansing does something stupid, it works.:D

[ESOX]

Originally posted by Fishfoote
Maybe someone she knows got nailed.

Jimbos? Naw you didn't, did you?:eek: :p

[Neal]

Jimbos? Naw you didn't, did you?

I don't think so Paul....Kinda hard to nail with a Rubber mallet; isn't it? :eek: :D

Neal

[deepwoods]

:eek: :eek:

[Jimbos]

Somehow I think I just got jabbed. In the name of eastside-westside public relations I think i'll ignore it.....lol;) ;) :D

[ESOX]

We weren't discussing eastside - westside relations.
What we were asking about was westside- Lansing relations.

[Gone Fishing]

Originally posted by Neal
I don't think so Paul....Kinda hard to nail with a Rubber mallet; isn't it? :eek: :D
Neal
You guys crack me up! Kind of funny to see Jimbos and Grandholm being the "butt" of the joke!:p

[Jimbos]

Forget you eastsiders....i'm feeling unloved.;) :)

[ESOX]

Originally posted by Jimbos
Forget you eastsiders....i'm feeling unloved.;) :)


You should place that problem on the Governors desk.:p

[MSUICEMAN]

Originally posted by Neal
Does any body notice how the media trys to make her look like a hero?

"Granholm kills the $300 insurance fine"

So she signs it into law 5 months ago, then repeals it.....our savior:rolleyes:

Neal

i agree with that, but at the same time that it makes her look for a hero for repealing it, she was also made the villain when it was signed into law even though it passed both houses by a HUGE percentage.

so it works both ways, kinda like a quarterback on the offense of a football team. If you score a lot of points, no matter if its your running back or wide recievers fault, you get a lot of the glory. If your line can't block, recievers can't get open, and running back can't run, the QB gets run out of town and ridiculed first and foremost.

steve

[Neal]

Originally posted by MSUICEMAN
i agree with that, but at the same time that it makes her look for a hero for repealing it, she was also made the villain when it was signed into law even though it passed both houses by a HUGE percentage.

so it works both ways, kinda like a quarterback on the offense of a football team. If you score a lot of points, no matter if its your running back or wide recievers fault, you get a lot of the glory. If your line can't block, recievers can't get open, and running back can't run, the QB gets run out of town and ridiculed first and foremost.

steve

Steve, can't you see we're in the middle of something important here?:rolleyes: :D

[MSUICEMAN]

sorry, carry on :D I shudder to think

steve

[ESOX]

ROTFLMAO :D :D :D

[Buddy Lee]

So are you guys saying you disagree with her politically, yet you like how she takes care of the "business end" of things? ;)

[deepwoods]

Much better than looking at Engler's big, huge,..........ahhh never mind!!!!;)

[TrailFndr]

So...as usual on this board, the Democrat gets blamed for something that was done by BOTH houses, and began by, and written by a REPUBLICAN... amazing thing is...the danged FOOL republican that wrote the stupid law that everyone hates WILL get re-elected by other Stupid people too blind to see the forest cause the trees are in the way

[Ranger Ray]

So...as usual on this board, the Democrat gets blamed for something that was done by BOTH houses, and began by, and written by a REPUBLICAN... amazing thing is...the danged FOOL republican that wrote the stupid law that everyone hates WILL get re-elected by other Stupid people too blind to see the forest cause the trees are in the way

TrailFndr have you been listening to them people at moveon.org
again? :D

[TrailFndr]

Ranger Ray

Nope...THIS BOARD...read above...everyone blames Granholm...She never wrote the bill...some Dumb Republican did

[Moron]

Nope...THIS BOARD...read above...everyone blames Granholm...She never wrote the bill...some Dumb Republican did

Some agreed there was equal blame. Let's just call it bipartisan stupidity.;)

[dogjaw]

Originally posted by deepwoods
I won't fault someone for righting their own wrong. Hopefully she'll continue this pattern.
She didn't right it herself. A bill was passed in Congress, and she agreed by signing it. The heat was on both. It was bull****, and they all knew it. Now, what about the extra $127 per vehicle we all are going to pay for this bull**** no fault insurance?

[Hamilton Reef]

Dogjaw, "Now, what about the extra $127 per vehicle we all are going to pay for this bull**** no fault insurance?"

The no-fault $127 is a Republican Insurance industry scam.

[NEMichsportsman]

Originally posted by Hamilton Reef
The no-fault $127 is a Republican Insurance industry scam.


It was the same "Republican Insurance industry" that gave you a larger rebate than that a couple years ago as I recall!

I don't agree with the whole Republican characterization to begin with...but I am not up in arms about this as we got a rebate for each vehicle within the last few years.

[dogjaw]

Originally posted by Hamilton Reef
Dogjaw, "Now, what about the extra $127 per vehicle we all are going to pay for this bull**** no fault insurance?"

The no-fault $127 is a Republican Insurance industry scam.

The Dems and Repubs both are in on this crap. And scam it is. It's time to get rid of this pipe dream called no fault. Both parties have had a majority and no one has gotten rid of it. The sooner it's gone, the better.

[Dick Graves]

This so called law is pure trash. Does not matter if a republican, democrat, libertarian, green party, independent or whatever inacted this piece of tripe, it need's to be repealed, fire all of the insurance people who sit on this board, I will personally take any lawyer involved on an overnight fishing trip and guarantee that he or she will not be at work the next day.

If you cannot afford to buy or pay for insurance for your f""aking vehicle, then don't drive, pretty damn simple, at least in the "hood" that I grew up in!

Simple thought for a simple mind! :mad: