Do you think hating Pres Bush will carry Dems to victory?

[4pwr]

It seems to me the message the dems are giving me to vote for Kerry is to show my hatred towards Pres. Bush.Kerry has shown me no reason to support him other than if you hate Bush vote for me. Do you think this will start a groundswell against Pres Bush and cause his defeat?

[Fins]

NO not at all, I can't believe anybody would vote for Kerry the guy just gives me the creeps, looks like a crook to me, Richard Nixon all over again. Thats my take on Kerry.

[Swamp Monster]

The latest poll shows Bush leading by 6 or 7 points. The margin of error pretty much negates that lead though.
I have yet to see anything substantial from kerry. He's busy now blaming Bush for the gas prices. He has an awfully short memory, considering I remember paying $1.80+ for gas while Clinton was still in office. He keeps talking about programs he think will work but not how they will be funded. I suspect, if he ends up in office, we will see some big tax increases.

[Fishfoote]

Nothing bothers me more than someone assuming I'm stupid.

The latest Kerry commercial I saw (this morning) cuts back and forth - Bush talking about the economy growing - someone talking about how long they've been out of work.

Well, there hasn't been a time in recorded history that you couldn't find people out of work. This commercial has about as much of a message as someone standing out on a sunny warm day saying "isn't this weather nice" and switching to the surgeon general citing skin cancer stats! There's a dark lining on every silver cloud. What it says to me is Kerry is at a loss for putting out something tangible - gee he spent a good part of his life as a lawmaker, you'd think he could point to something there:rolleyes:

[Bluegill Bob]

I think it comes down to two choices. If you are rich and greedy and believe we should just take all from the earth we can and profit from it ourselves and not worry about future generations. Vote Republican.

If you are not rich and don’t want to rape the earth for profit. If you don’t believe that money makes you a better person than those not so fortunate and don’t mind leaving some of the natural recourses for future generations. If you don’t feel that it is necessary for force the rest of the world to be just like us. (if they are not a threat to us). Vote Democrat.

Kerry don’t really do much for me either but I feel that is the only choice I have given the above circumstances . I know you can vote for others but face the facts. It will be a Republican or Democrat that will become our next President.

So as an answer to the original question. It is sad it is that way but yes I believe that is Kerry’s strongest vote getter will be peoples dislike for Bush and his greed and lack of worrying about our people as much as he does about Mexico’s people.

[deepwoods]

To answer your question, no I do not think that will win Kerry an election. He is really starting to take heat for his antics. He says what he believes people want to hear. Bush is bad, war is bad, big oil, our soldiers are being sacrificed, and so on. But his voting record, or lack of, throughout his career tells a different story.

Like mentioned I believe he thinks people are stupid. Maybe I am but I will not vote for Kerry myself.

[WILDCATWICK]

4pwr good point. It does seem to be the tactic used. That tactic can back fire too if something happens between now and the election that show moderate dems that Bush is willing to work with others. I'm still undecieded at this point and probably won't make up my mind until right before election. I'm still waiting for a candidiate to not used smear tactics and to only adress their issues with pointing out why they beleive their methods are more sound than their competitiors. Don't see it happening though.

Kerry scares me because of wishy washy track record and he really isn't giving us alot about how he would actually run his administration and how he would have handled things differntly or the same as Bush.

Then again Bush to me has not accomplished a whole lot in his tenure. I know he was pretty occupied with Iraq and the Third World War (war on terrorism) but I still don't know if I trust his judgments.
If Bush gets elected who will his cabinet members be? I think quite a few members will be leaving his adminidstration. I think Bush's major strength to begin with was his cabinet.

Isn't it funny how it's black and white with politicians and no one can ever say, "I would have done the same thing in that situation. I would do differnt things with other issues but with that one I would do it the same"?

[lostmale]

“We need a new direction on energy policy,” Kerry said. “I’ll use real pressure to do what George Bush hasn’t — pressure OPEC to start providing more oil.”
Kerry is also proposing to:
* Reduce the number of gasoline blends used by different states. This would lower supply hiccups that cause price spikes, Kerry said.

* Temporarily halt filling the Strategic Petroleum Reserve, to increase oil supplies and bring down gasoline prices.


Sounds like a good plan, Cut back our reserve and Beg OPEC to provide more oil. He has no plan to decrease America’s reliance on foreign oil. Wouldn't this plan just make us more dependent on OPEC?

[Swamp Monster]

I think it's a poor plan and means nothing for the long term.
Kerry seems like the type of person that would sell his soul to Opec to make himself look good......not good imo. I also don't like the idea of using our reserves. What will happen to prices if a refinery goes down or their is a break down in the supply line? Prices could spike 2 or 3 times higher than they are today.

I do like the idea of limiting all this special gas crap, but you have to admit, if a Republican suggested that idea all the greenies would be flying off the handle about how Bush is just raping the earth and making it easy for big oil.
At least the Bush admin is looking into ways to reduce our dependence on Opec.

[Ranger Ray]

Gas prices were kept low at one point during the Clinton administration because Bill supported our supply by releasing a lot of it to market. Not that he did anything wrong but somewhere along the way you have to replenish them.

[Chris_Davis]

It didn't work for Mondale, it didn't work for Dole and it won't work for Kerry.

[Chris_Davis]

Originally posted by Bluegill Bob
I think it comes down to two choices. If you are rich and greedy and believe we should just take all from the earth we can and profit from it ourselves and not worry about future generations. Vote Republican.

Rich and greedy like Kerry, Soros and Buffet? Guys like Ken Lay who serve on the (Tehresa) Heinze (Kerry) Foundation board of directors. Big oil guys like Kerry who own stock in Exxon Mobile?

Natural Resources, the Republicans have signed into law every major enviornmental program in the last 30 years. Republicans look at realistic ways to protect our resources, while democrats talk about irrational, unscientific, kneejerk policies toward the enviornment.

[snakebit67]

I just returned from a not often enough visit with my grandfather.
He is 90 years old, retired from GM, just retired as treasurer of his retirees local. This is how I was brought up Dems are for the working man, Republicans are for the rich. I avoid political discussions with him because I don't want to upset him. A statement he made got me thinking. The last republican to do anything for the common man was Abraham Lincoln. He freed the slaves.


Now this got me thinking. I am by no means a student of history so I hope someone can enlighten me. When did the "myth" for lack of a better word start that Democrats are for the working man and Republicans are for the rich. I hold no party affiliation myself. I have voted both Democratic and Republican.

[Ricky Missum]

As soon as he got in, he put cash right back into my paycheck! After that, well that's a little different story! To think Kerry could carry this election on Hate in Nov. would be hard pressed! But, I cetainly feel that he will get votes (many) because of the dislike many voting Americans have towards JR!

[AceMcbanon]

The original pioneer of the republican party was Thomas jefferson who made sure the constitution was strictly followed down to every word, he kept goverment small and in fact walked to his inaguration instead of riding in a fancy carriage. He onley made a few compromises on stuff the constitution did not cover, such as the goverment buying land (Louisiana Purchase) The original republicans believed in a small army, small navy and basically small in the few departments goverment had at the time. Jefferson believed the farmers were the ones who mattered in American not the aristocrats of New England

1854 the party became official and eventually led to the Republicans being mostly northeners and anti slavery and were what you would call today liberals. While the democrats were conservative and rich plantation owners and other areas that profited from explotation and trade

1890's both partys changed their platform with the republicans adopting big buisness and the gold standard and the Democrats adopting middle class and poor with the silver standard

I would be all for another Thomas Jefferson in the modern situation.

Unfortuanetly other then a few issues ( both democrats and Republicans expand goverment each term and really seem more alike with each passing election.

[snakebit67]

thanks ace

[Moron]

I would be all for another Thomas Jefferson in the modern situation.

Ace
Thomas Jefferson would be considered a radical in the US of today. Certainly wouldn't get anywhere in either of the 2 major parties.:(

[Moron]

It seems to me the message the dems are giving me to vote for Kerry is to show my hatred towards Pres. Bush.Kerry has shown me no reason to support him other than if you hate Bush vote for me. Do you think this will start a groundswell against Pres Bush and cause his defeat?

The way I see it neither Kerry nor Bush could get a majority of support without the votes cast for either coming from the dislike of the other. A sad testimonial of what the dems and reps have done to our election process. :(

[jdt]

hating bush is only good for one vote,it may not get kerry elected but it keeps my blood preasure down!
if you think the economy is good under bush,wait till we try to pay off the national debt,and balance the budget!!