The role of Goverment

[JasonG]

As we enter this political season the answer to this question will be a big determinator of who you will vote for. I have heard over and over. "What has Bush done for me" Well what do you want. I believe that the primary role of goverment is to protect its citizens. Since 9-11 no new homeland attacks. Just by this fact President Bush has done everything he is supposed to do for you. He has kept you safe. What else do you want from the goverment. Since when does the goverment owe us all these things that people complain that they are not getting. It is ironic but which party once proposed. "ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can you do for your country." Once you begin getting everything you need from the goverment then the goverment will have all the control in your life.

[TrailFndr]

believe that the primary role of goverment is to protect its citizens.

That being the case...WHY is the federal government into so many OTHER areas? Wanting to allow illigal immigrants is NOT protecting me or any other American.

Destroying protections placed on the Enviornment is NOT protecting anyone, in fact, it is Destroying the health of people in the effected area...

Allowing Tax breaks for companies the send work overseas is NOT protecting Americans...

Lets face it..If Protecting Americans and keeping them safe is the responsibility of Government...this administration should be IMPEACHED for thier Failure

[Moron]

JasonG
I agree. What the people should have DONE for their country was to be vigilant and hold it's elected officials to their oaths of office to defend the constitution. Had they done that for the last 50 years political correctness would not be an issue today. And our federal government wouldn't have been so big that it's right hand doesn't know what it's left hand is doing.:)

We are on the road to socialism without much chance of turning around. I fully support the war on terror, but don't feel it was necessary to infringe on the bill of rights and my pocket book to fight it.

A much better alternative would been to end the war on drugs and use these resources to do what the government is constitutionally empowered to do, defense. This would help in the fight against terror in 2 ways.

It would give us the resources(manpower & money) needed and it would end, or greatly reduce, the terror so many of our communites face because of the violence associated with the war on drugs. Drug use is not a good thing and I don't advocate it. But it's the war against drugs that creates the potenial for most of the profits, and in turn creates most of the violence.

Our 2 major parties give us a choice between socialism and imperialism. Our constitution won't survive either of these alternatives for very long.:(

[Neal]

It's pathetic that so many Americans depend on governemnt to make it in this country....Pathetic.

Neal

[Moron]

I agree Neal.
The more size and power we give the feds the worse it will get.:(

[snakebit67]

If you REALLY want to know what the founding fathers intended government to be, read the FEDERALIST PAPERS.

[Moron]

Been there done that.:) Can learn alot more from them then from the politically correct self serving politicians of today.:D

[Kevin]

I suggest you also read F. A. Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom" too.
(Then again, I bet you probably have Moron ;))

[Jimbos]

We are on the road to socialism without much chance of turning around. I fully support the war on terror, but don't feel it was necessary to infringe on the bill of rights and my pocket book to fight it.

I don't understand the link between socialism and the war on terror and paying for the war on terror? What am I missing here?

[Sarge]

The Role of Government is to make jobs and lifelong retierment benefits for politicians, while appearing to serve the citizens. Trouble is, we all see through this and the appearance is no longer there.

[Moron]

Jimbos
My point is, the more power we give the government the more dependent we become on it. The more dependent we become on it the more power the government needs to satisfy this dependence. It's a progressive process, and once it gets rolling it's virtually impossible to stop let alone reverse.:(

Amos
I am aware of but haven't read "The Road to Serfdom". I'll put it on my must read list though.:)

[jefrat72]

"The Role of Government" that's a good question, one I'd like to know more about.

Who has some good books, sites to suggest to help educate me the true role of Government? Got the Road to Surfdome and Federalist Papers from above, what else?

I admit to not being the strongest politically, but I'm not happy with what we have to vote between and getting very tired of this same story every election, the vote of the lesser evil.
Thanks.

[Moron]

Studying both the federalist and anti-federalist papers can give a good perspective of the positions, concerns, concepts, and compromizes that led to the drafting and ratifying of our constitution.

This will give a good perspective as to how to relate anything else you read pertaining to the role of our government. The constitution is the "supreme law of the land"(article VI). ;) and should dictate our course.

There are different interpretations of what the words that make up the constitution mean as there is probably no such thing as plain english.:)

The problem is most politicians and special interest groups today flip flop on their interpretation of these words for the sake of political correctness and their own agendas.:(

[MiketheElder]

One of the most enlightening books I've ever read is called "The Creature From Jekyll Island" subtitled: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve by G. Edward Griffin

It took Griffin 15 years to write the book. It will take a long time to read but well worth it. Each section has a preview and a summary. He suggests right at the flyleaf(?) to read the previews and summaries first then go back and reread the chapters.

Big Mike

[jefrat72]

Thanks for the replys. I've got a lot on the plate right now as far as reading, but I'll check em out. As I get older I'm getting more political but have never been grounded on a political position. This should help.

[snakebit67]

Not being grounded on one political position, in my opinion, is a good thing.

[Dick Graves]

jefrat72 here are a few of my choices:

The Constitution of The United States: Joseph Story, youngest person ever appointed to the Supreme Court 1811-1845.

Original Intentions On The Making and Ratification of the U.S. Constitution: M.E. Bradford

Basic American Government: Clarence Carson

Rulers of Evil: F. Tupper Saussy

The Power to Destroy: Sen. William Roth (IRS info)

Shakedown: Kenneth R. Timmerman (Jessie Jackson)

Global Tyranny...Step by Step: William F. Jasper (Info on the United Nations)

Some of them may be a little tough to find, but well worth the search!

:eek:

[jefrat72]

Thanks Graves, will check that out when I get a chance. Cut & paste into my list for now.

[DaveW731]

Try reading the Magna Charta, for the roots of the whole concepts of individual property rights and protection against unreasonable search and seizure. Even though centuries old, it really is a big part of the foundation for a federalist system.

[Kevin]

A possible platform should Thomas Sowell run for office;):

My Platform - T. Sowell (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/printts20040330.shtml)

[Moron]

Excellent article Amos.:)

The speeches of Ron Paul can also be very enlightening.
http://www.house.gov/paul/congrec/welcome.htm