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catch&release
03-17-2004, 06:45 PM
www.moveon.org/censure/caughtonvideo/
:rolleyes:
Funny how they cut a response off in mid sentence. Nothing credible comes from moveon.org.
The action we took sent a powerful signal to all the 2 bit despots in the world not to mess with the US. Libya has changed their ways and things are rather quite on the N Korean side. Iran is letting UN inspectors look at their nuclear program. Thanks to strong leadership from GW. Kerry's voting record makes it clear we would not see decisive action from him. Kerry would follow the UN before he lead the US.
kingfisher 11
03-17-2004, 08:22 PM
What will it take for us to actually realize we no longer live in a bubble? Will it take many of our own children to be killed in a terrorist attack on the homeland?
Some of your are either too blind or don't have the stomach to dig deep and sacrifice to support the war. And Yes, I say there is still a WAR going on. Makes me sick to listen to the whining about how we should not be in Iraq. We are there and the job needs to be finished. If we pull out now, then all those lifes lost will be worth nothing.
I sure don't want a John Kerry (this is where I should in the peace sign) standing at the helm. I think he has less of a backbone then Clintion had... cough. And we all know from the videos getting shown lately that Clinton could have taken out Bin Laden at the end of his last term.
We will get Bin Laden if Bush stays in office.
What did it take us to capture the abortion clinic bomber, five years. And that was within our own borders.
We must have patience, we have the best trained soldiers in the world. And at least during this present adminsistration. The man at the helm won't be afraid to pull the trigger.
TrailFndr
03-17-2004, 08:32 PM
I have the utmost in respect for those sent over to fight this war...and yes..I agree we ARE at war...a war in which we had NO BUSSINESS being in. One is which our president started with NO basis to support his claims of the time, One in which we simply do not belong.
and yes..we MUST finish the job. Unfortunatly, our current President will have indirectly caused the death and maiming of way too many innocent military persons, based on his ARROGANCE.
kingfisher 11
03-17-2004, 08:36 PM
Trail, since seem to be my little shadow. Tell me who you think would be the best choice? I don't think Bush is god. Just give me someone better to vote for then Kerry. Not someone the UAW has told you to vote for.
TrailFndr
03-17-2004, 08:45 PM
first off, I refuse to allow ANYONE to TELL me who to vote for...
I vote for who I feel will do the job, and while I will agree that neither would be my first choice, it seems that as usual, we are stuck with the lesser of two evils.
I won't vote for Bush, simply because I don't agree with his arrogant ways, Nor do I agree with the way he has handled many things in the past 3 years. His enviormental record STINKS. and to me..that is a very important issue, as without a healthy enviornment, we sure as hell won't need the guns that everyone believes Gore would have taken from us, there won't be anything left alive to hunt.
I do not agree with everything kerry has done either...However..we have in my opinion, a Proven disaster in office currently...How can anyone be any worse.
kingfisher 11
03-17-2004, 08:58 PM
First off you should not vote either way because you do or don't like arrogance. Simply just because the way a guy walks, talks or acts is no reason not to support someone who maybe the best man for the job. If you firmly believe he is bad for the environment then that is a better reason not to vote for him.
I think one of the reasons Clinton was so popular was appearance and carisma. Sad, to many vote on the appearance of the messenger in stead of the message. I know Bush's smirk drives me crazy too. But I don't think he is trying to pick up an intern right now.
What I find funny though. Is so many guys are crying that he is hurting the evironment, but yet those are the same guys who complaining about jobs leaving. One of the main reasons companies have moved are do to the evironment regulations in place. Sorry guys you have to have a sensible balance to make sure you can to both.
catch&release
03-17-2004, 09:04 PM
Funny thing how this war that Bush is having trouble defending is greatly enriching President Cheney's former company, Haliburton.
why did we go into Iraq? To enrich Haliburton! Don't let the arrogant twins, Bush and Cheney, get away with the biggest public funded rip-off in the history of our nation.
The only entity benefiting out of Iraq is Haliburtton at the cost of American lives and obsene amounts of American tax dollars.
TrailFndr
03-17-2004, 09:11 PM
One of the main reasons companies have moved are do to the evironment regulations in place. Sorry guys you have to have a sensible balance to make sure you can to both.
I disagree.. The biggest reported reason that companies are moving out of this country, is greed. Wall street wants profits, More each and every year or the companie losses stock standings. Investors demand a high return, and don't give a darn about anything else, be it People, enviornment or anything else.
Blue collar jobs have NOT left this country due to enviormental laws, hell, they have NOTHING to do with those laws anyway, they are moving to take advantage of a country that has workers willing to work for PENNIES a day Simple economics..
Unfortunatly, investors, and wall street are after profits TODAY, and to heck with tomorrow. No one has yet realized what will happen to those same investors, when the people of THIS country can no longer afford the goods and services that so called "American" companies, produce in forgin lands.
kingfisher 11
03-17-2004, 09:23 PM
I am getting tried here. You can disagree all you want want. The three main reasons companies are moving, cheaper wages, taxes and evrionmental regulations.
I agree with most of this statement though.
"I disagree.. The biggest reported reason that companies are moving out of this country, is greed. Wall street wants profits, More each and every year or the companie losses stock standings. Investors demand a high return, and don't give a darn about anything else, be it People, enviornment or anything else."
Business' are in business to make money. Not give you a job.
You are correct on another point. If you don't have consumers with money and jobs they don't buy. What you have to remember is we are now in a world market. If we don't buy they can always find another market over seas.
Another point to make, this really got fired up during the last administration
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