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Linda G.
12-29-2003, 08:27 AM
This one's worth thinking about:

We are the ones to blame

By Tony Hansen


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Tony Hansen




Don't blame Mark Schauer.

If the dove bill finds its way to the Senate and a vote is held and the measure draws just 19 of the 20 votes needed to pass and Mark Schauer, a Senator from Battle Creek, voted 'no', don't you dare blame him.

Because it's not his fault.

It's ours.

The dove issue should not be foreign to anyone who hunts.

For nearly 100 years, dove hunting has been illegal.

But more and more states are allowing hunters to target doves.

The science has shown that hunting doves has almost no impact on the overall population numbers.

Doves who frequent backyard feeders are seldom the doves hunters see while afield.

But this is an extremely emotional issue. Those who oppose dove hunting do so because they see the birds as gentle, cooing creatures who love to eat the suet cakes and sunflower seeds they scatter on the back porch.

Those who want to hunt them, see them as a sustainable wildlife resource that can put food on the table and generate a substantial amount of revenue from hunters.

State Representative Susan Tabor introduced a dove bill in 2001 but it failed by a narrow margin.

So she's giving it one more shot.

The bill passed the House this fall and hunters were certain they would be hunting doves next fall.

But I don't think we will.

Why?

Because we're complacent. Silent. Naive.

We don't make ourselves heard.

Mark Schauer voted in favor of dove hunting in 2001.

And what was his reward?

A barrage of negative backlash from constituents in his district who oppose dove hunting.

Did hunters call Schauer and thank him for his vote? Did we show up at the polls and cast a vote his way as a sign of thanks? Not hardly.

Schauer is a Democrat and all hunters know that only the Republican Party is a friend of hunters, right? Wrong.

Mark Schauer voted for us in 2001 and we did nothing to return the favor.

Even now, when a dove season is so close, we sit on our hands.

Schauer said he has heard from very few hunters who want a dove season.

Proponents of the dove bill think 19 of the needed 20 votes are there.

We need just one more.

In 2001, Mark Schauer was that vote.

In 2004, he may vote on a dove bill again and he'll vote the way he feels best represents his constituents.

Schauer is a fair man whom I believe truly listens to those he represents.

And so far they're telling him to vote 'No.'




mkariko1225
12-29-2003, 07:16 PM
I want to go dove hunting some time this year but i dont know when the season starts and i also dont know where to go hunting at. I want to start dove hunting but i dont know anything about it.

Linda G.
12-29-2003, 08:06 PM
I posted this to encourage the folks who support the dove bill to contact Schauer.

Mkariko-at present, Michigan does not have a dove season. We are one of only 11 states that does not. There is currently a bill that has been approved by the House of Representatives that will probably go to the Senate in January-if approved, it will be presented to the Governor for her signature.

But we've got a ways to go yet to see any of that happen...

Ricky Missum
12-29-2003, 08:51 PM
Thanks Linda!

rabbit whacker
12-29-2003, 08:55 PM
Linda thanks for sharing...it is a good one to ponder on

Rakassan101
12-30-2003, 12:43 AM
May I ask what happened to the reply by Eastern yooper that was posted this afternoon? And LindaG's reply to that message? Does the moderator here have a particularly heavy hand when it comes to deleting posted messages that do not agree with the forum's party line?

Kevin
12-30-2003, 02:11 AM
The replies to this thread that were not directed to the topic were voluntarily withdrawn, or requested to be edited by the poster.

No heavy hand, no party line.

wrenchman
12-30-2003, 09:55 PM
thanks i have made my calls and it would be nice to hunt doves here in mich i have been hunting doves in ky for the last few years and not to get off the point but is this the same linda gallagher frome the mich out door news if so i like the artical on the baiting restrictions

Rakassan101
01-07-2004, 06:27 AM
Dove hunting does seem to be a hot button issue here. While a few very noisy members of this forum support it, those who object to the season for whatever reason, or question it in the least, are soundly shouted down.
That is why I posted my first message in this thread.

Rock

WALLEYEvision
01-07-2004, 08:05 AM
Thanks for the post Linda!

Neal
01-07-2004, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by Rakassan101
While a few very noisy members of this forum support it, those who object to the season for whatever reason, or question it in the least, are soundly shouted down.
That is why I posted my first message in this thread.

Rock

There was a poll taken of the members of this site whether they supported the hunting of doves in Michigan. Although only a sample of 37 members responded the results were 100% for it. It is also supported by every major sportsmen club in Michigan. I think that adds up to more than a Few.

Supporting link (http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=38951)

Neal

Kevin
01-07-2004, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by Rakassan101
Dove hunting does seem to be a hot button issue here. While a few very noisy members of this forum support it, those who object to the season for whatever reason, or question it in the least, are soundly shouted down.
That is why I posted my first message in this thread.

Rock

I guess it depends on what you call "soundly shouted down." While there may be something to that claim in the margins, my impression is that most people have made a case for the dove bill on it's merits.
I think that there has been a fairly active, vocal minority against the bill.