View Full Version : Used saltwater boats and pricing?
Gone Fishing
10-29-2003, 11:45 AM
I know you can't tell much by a picture but I know some of the members here have looked at and researched these boats (27 Tiara Open). I never really thought of buying a saltwater boat but I guess if the price was good enough, I might consider it. I know I've seen freshwater boats in this area going for more. Do you think this is a reasonable price for this boat? I'm really not sure what the book value would be. Any thoughts?
http://www.boattraderonline.com/addetail.html?58607158
I would be leery of any salty. despite the best of design considerations and so forth, the salt water environment will wreak havoc with all electrical connections, cause lots of corrosion in the engine water jacket etc.
Captain
10-29-2003, 12:41 PM
Wow, John that is my exact boat.....I would be a little leary about the salt as well...Even though it states he flushed the engines every trip and it has relatively low hours, just the salt in the air corrodes alot of things...Only one way to find out...ROAD TRIP, does it have a trailer?
Gone Fishing
10-29-2003, 12:53 PM
I don't think it has a trailer Drew. Just for the heck of it I got a quote from a transport company. For the $3,000 they want to transport it, I'd be tempted to buy a trailer and go pick it up myself. Anyway, although the price doesn't seem too bad, I'm still a little leary about getting into a salt water rig. My buddy bought one that was kept on a lift and has had no problems with his but I don't think I'm ready to jump quite yet. There are plenty of these boats around. I just missed a Michigan boat that was sold a couple weeks ago at a pretty good price. Keep your ears open for me!
Captain
10-29-2003, 01:09 PM
Will do John, but you have to sell my Coastal first....lol
Nice Looking rig. Only one thing that I would think of after looking at the pictures is this statement - "Fresh 1st time bottom paint with Interlux Interprotect barrier coating".
I moved here from Fl and knowing how us folks down there hate bottom paint I wonder why at this stage of the game does it have "fresh" paint on her now. What's that covering up. A good survey would be in order. I would not be leery of a salty, most guys I know down there take better care of them boats than what I have seen up here. Might be the owner age factor but that is my observation.
Lastly, the charge to move the boat is excessive. Is that dedicated transp, why not try for delivery with a company that will haul when they have room with no specific date when it has to be here. It's a win, win situation. Don't think you will be using it till spring. Survey and go for it. If I could sell mine quick enough I would check it out myself. Love them boats.
SARDog
10-29-2003, 07:40 PM
You can bring a salty to fresh water, but ya can't take a fresh water boat to salt. That's a good price and if all the zinc's were changed regulary then I would check it out if I was looking. Use to be a good boat was $1,000 a foot in price new. Now that's a memory.:)
Nice hull design for cruising.
Definately get a survey.
SalmonBum
10-30-2003, 01:04 PM
Spend the extra Money to get a Freshwater boat. Stay away from salt. Motors are only one part to worry about. All the wiring, electrical, trim, etc... all have been in a saltwater enviroment. You'll find yourself constanty fixing wires, connections and whatnot, instead of fishing. Salty boats are , on average 15 -20% less in value than fresh. There is a reason for that. Keep looking around here. You'll run across a good deal sooner or later.
Trailer for that boat would run about $6000 for a GOOD one. I'm sure you could find cheaper but you get what you pay for........
GOTCHA
10-30-2003, 01:58 PM
John, offer him $25000.00, get a servay, call steve zinner for a trailer around $3200.00 and if it check's out go pick it up;)
Getaway
10-30-2003, 03:09 PM
John,
I would say, first of all, get a survey. If everything checks out I'd look into gettting a new trailer and picking it up yourself.
I've looked at a lot of these boats too and you will pay in the high 40k for that boat up here. If she needs it, you can do a lot of repairs for the 20K difference.
After all, it is a Tiara and a high quality vessel. You are paying for fiberglass and finish details. Engines, wires etc are all replacable items.
I had a small cruiser I/O that had a salt water history. I had to replace one of the manifilds on the V-8 Mercruiser. The manifold was an easy fix. $300+ and I did the work myself. This boat may be cooled with fresh water. If it is, all the better. The biggest problem was the lower unit. Salt is real tough on the seals. Not a factor on this boat. Strait inboards are made to withstand salt.
My $.02
Do they still use Lignum Vitae as the propshaft seal on inboards? I havent done any of that type of work on an inboard in years.
Gone Fishing
10-31-2003, 01:48 PM
Couldn't tell ya. I've pretty much been an outboard guy with a couple I/O's in the mix. Actually I had trouble pronouncing that. I just call it shaft seal packing. :p
FishTales
10-31-2003, 04:49 PM
RJF
You must have been thinking this boat has an enclosed cooling system.
The ad for this boat said the engines are FWC (fresh water cooling), which is the water the boat is floating in, and in this case it would be saltwater.
IRock
11-01-2003, 09:38 PM
Salt is pretty tough on the boats. but with proper care they can be kept in decent shape. They are not nearly as popular in Florida as the great lakes region from what I have seen down there. Personally I would opt for a fresh water boat. Some will come up in the winter or spring. I sold my 89 Tiara 27 to the second guy that looked at it this spring. The first guy came back a day to late. A nice ones won't last on the market long in the spring. I had mine for 9 years. They are fantastic boat.
Jason Adam
11-03-2003, 08:11 AM
FishTales,
FWC and Closed Cooling System are the same thing. RWC(Raw Water Cooled) draws water from the lake for cooling the engine.
FishTales
11-03-2003, 08:57 AM
Jason,
Thanks, I knew it was something like that, don't know what I was thinking. I suppose being from this area I just associated FWC with lake water.
RJF, sorry, you were correct.
CAPT HEAVY
11-06-2003, 09:14 PM
My 27' came from the ICW a few years back. I would also suggest getting a survey. Good hrs. on a boat that age. The first thing that I looked at on my boat was the motor mounts. Gives you a good idea what the other hidden metal componets are like. Nice looking rig for $29000.
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