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Hamilton Reef
07-20-2003, 03:44 AM
Warnings about eating Michigan fish intensify

HARRISON TOWNSHIP -- Sport fishing in Michigan is great this season, but with it comes a potential problem: Michigan Department of Community Health officials fear that new and old warnings against eating tainted Great Lakes fish are being widely ignored.

http://www.detnews.com/2003/metro/0307/20/d01-221832.htm




IT pimp 2002
07-21-2003, 08:14 AM
I was told that when they do tests on all species of fish, they just put it in a blender and then use this as the sample to test. When I clean any fish I use great care in making sure there is no belly meat, or dark area ( on salmon and other large trout) Only eating the best parts of the fillet. I ususally only eat perch and walleye, and the smaller ones at that.
Do you guys really think that the dangers are worse than what goes into the crap at the store? I mean growth hormones and all the anti biotics, and god knows whatever else the are putting in the livestock. I am starting to feel concerned as I give lots of my fish away to friends and family.

Hamilton Reef
07-21-2003, 09:22 AM
You are correct about sampling methods and the cleaning of the fish that we eat. I have no concerns for the small amount of fish we eat. The tobacco industry has threatened and killed millions more people than eating fish ever have. There are positive benifits of eating fish. Today the contaminate levels in the Great Lakes fish are far less than 20-30 years ago.

What I never forgot was several years ago during the illegal Indian gillnet period, we asked about the high contaminated lake trout being sold to the unsuspecting public. White commercial fishermen could not sell those fish. Judge Noel Fox told us that the Indians were not bound by those laws. He smiled when he said it was okey for them to poison white people. Judge Fox lived on White Lake.

WILDCATWICK
07-21-2003, 03:17 PM
I'm no expert but I think there might be some coincidence here. St. Clair County has one of the Highest cancer rates in the nation. The public here contributes that to the containaments put in the water by Chemical Valley in Sarnia Canada. Alot of the Great Lakes is south of that. How are the cancer rates in the counties that are along the Great Lakes south of St. Clair County? I bet their not very good. I can't imagine why someone would want to eat much of the fish when you think about these facts. I use to eat walleye I caught all the time. Not anymore.:mad:

jeremy L
07-21-2003, 03:41 PM
there was an article in our local news paper about how the cancer rates are higher over western ontario and eastern michigan compared to most other places. They said the radioactive cloud from a secert atom bomb tests in utah back in the 60s traveled across the nation with the winds. It happened to be raining that day across eastern mich/west ontario, radioactive elements from the fallup cloud mixed with the rain and then soaked into the ground and into wells causing higher rates of cancer. The guy who did this study did this after most of his friends were dying from cancer, in recent years, and yet had no family history of the illness. His study is not accepted by either nations goverments.

Just thought i would toss that up there, i don't really belive thats why his friends were dying of cancer, but i guess you never know.

IT pimp 2002
07-22-2003, 02:25 PM
Boy that sounds like it's reaching at best. I don't believe it either.

scottyhoover
07-22-2003, 02:30 PM
"Ebony Hudson, 22, of Detroit caught an 8-pound carp in Lake St. Clair....."

"Gross hasn't decided yet what he is going to do with a huge 35-inch sheephead he caught ..."

These were the perfect folks to interview don't you think!

quest32a
07-22-2003, 02:37 PM
Originally posted by scottyhoover
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These were the perfect folks to interview don't you think!
That is what i was thinking Scotty. I think we are overreacting, everything is unhealthy for you in some way or another.

scottyhoover
07-22-2003, 02:57 PM
The article didn't have quotes from anyone saying "I eat fish in moderation and enjoy it, and have no worries". I think this is what most 'sportsman' I know would have said.

On a side note, I have found myself with an abundance of fish in the freezer (yay). I have to watch it that I don't cook some up 2-3 times per week. Instead, and I guess this is a personal thing, I just eat it once a week, or so. And yes of course most of us fisherman know what to trim and how to cut a fillet properly.

Carp...sheephead....come on....true fisherman such as ourselves know enough not to eat that junk anyway!

(not meant to offend anyone who might cook up a sheephead, because i know you people are out there) (you can notice them by the third eyeball)

Supa Roosta
07-23-2003, 01:01 AM
Cripes,,, I use to pull walleyes outta the holes at the foot of the Dow bwuc, bwuc,,, bwuc,, bwuc,,,,Ba-gaaaAAGK! Dam all the time.
Then I moved down here, and fish the St.Clair, Detroit, and even the Clinton, and still haven't noticed any
Urka,,,,,,Urrrrrr,,,,UURRRRRRRrrrrrr problems.:p

What do they mean by constant diet anyways??????:eek: :eek:

WILDCATWICK
07-23-2003, 09:07 AM
I was trying to think back to the exact time or incident that happened to cause me to stop eating the walley out of the St. Clair River when it hit me. It must have been about 15 years ago. I was fishing just down stream from the Belle River Detroit Edison Power Plant. My friend and I had caught 3-4 walley with in an hour. We threw every one of them back (never had done that before). They had something that looked like carpet growing on them. The sad thing was that it took an external physical abnormality for me to throw back the fish. What about all the fish that have not acheived that stage yet. Their internal system could be poisned how would one know? Does it take a third eye growing in order for someone to say..."wow I wouldn't eat that fish!!":confused:

PITBULL
07-24-2003, 02:20 AM
If you can try to sue Mc Donnalds because you super sized your value meal and now you are supersized, Can we now sue the state for problems possably due to eating contaminated fish ? No that is why they come up with the advisory's. Also the state may know more than they are letting on the fishing industry in Michigan brings in a lot of revinew. If they make advisorys they think that they are not lible. You would not be able to prove that you followed the advisorys to a t. Now that I have spouted off I will watch out for the helocopters following me home from work this AM waiting for me to crash! Also I heard that mercury pcb's can cause accute paranoia :p