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NorthJeff
03-31-2003, 12:05 PM
***This was the same as the first, mistakingly deleted QDM essentials thread, but with the addition of some comments of QDMA Executive Director, Brian Murphy.

What are the essentials of QDM?

Many focus on mandatory AR's and habitat improvement. Hunters and property owners that are for or against QDM use both of these points as there support. Some that don't own land say QDM can't be for them, because they can't practice habitat improvement. Some also say that QDM isn't for them because they don't care for mandatory AR's. But is either a must for an
effective QDM plan? Sure, a QDM plan is enhanced at times by the above two aspects, but is it essential?

QDM is:
1.Protection of yearling bucks

2.Populations maintained below the carrying capacity of the land

3.Adequate sex ratios

Notice I did not mention habitat improvement, or mandatory AR's. Mandatory AR's and habitat improvement are great tools, but are not essential to the effective establishment of a QDM plan. The above three though, can not be left out. For example: You can use habitat improvement to raise your property's carrying capacity, but it still boils down to "carrying capacity". Your populations must be maintained below the carrying capacity
of the land in order for your QDM plan to be successful. Regardless of what you do to your land, or public land for that matter, if you follow the proper carrying capacity, you are practicing QDM. Simply, you can practice QDM without habitat improvement, but you can't practice QDM without maintaining your population below the carrying capacity of the land. That's why carrying capacity is essential, but habitat improvement is not.

Also, on mandatory AR's. It doesn't matter how you do it, yearling bucks need to be protected for the successful implementation of a QDM plan. You can have a successful QDM plan without AR's, but you can't have one without the protection of yearling bucks. This is where it can get kind of sticky. PA recognized, as well as many other parts of the country, that voulantary protection wasn't working, and wouldn't work, especially at a noticable rate, so they developed an effective AR that would protect at least 80% of all yearlings. But is a mandatory AR an essential for QDM? No. Can it be very effective? Yes.

Simply, you can practice QDM without AR's, but you can't practice QDM without the protection of yearling bucks.

Those 3 points above are the essentials for a successful QDM plan. There are many other positive aspects that can be incorporated into your plan, especially the use of habitat improvement. Many other aspects are also a part of the QDMA, including education, cooperation with law enforcement, youth involvement, and stewardship. Habitat improvement is probably the biggest aspect, and it is an awesome tool to help a landowner further enjoy his or her property on an entirely different level, a level I strongly encourage. But regardless of what you do, or don't do, the above 3 essentials have to take place for a QDM plan to be successful.

That is why QDM is effective anywhere in the country, on any type of property. You get the above 3 essentials to take place, and you have an effective QDM plan.

Brian Murphy commented to me by e-mail.....

"Certainly, habitat improvement can greatly enhance the success of a QDM program as can mandatory antler restriction programs. Also, the correct #1 in the article's list should be an adequate buck age structure, not protection of yearling bucks. While protection of yearling bucks is the most direct approach to QDM, an older buck age structure also can be achieved by simply reducing the total buck harvest (e.g., a quota). In these cases, harvesting a few yearling bucks will not prevent QDM success."

So... I stand corrected. The first point should be, Adequate Buck Age Structure.

So, the 3 essentials of QDM are:

1. Adequate Buck Age Structure

2. Populations Maintained below the carrying capacity of the land

3. Adequate Sex Ratios

Make sense?




Bob S
03-31-2003, 01:17 PM
It does make a lot of sense Jeff. That is why I am going to make it a priority to "whack and stack" the does this fall. We should get the late antlerless season back in Missaukee County this year and I will make good use of it.

NorthJeff
03-31-2003, 01:32 PM
I guess I have always placed a lot of importance on protection of yearling bucks. Although this is the most direct way to change the age structure of the herd, the bottom line is that the age structure must be adequate.

As I've put it before about other aspects, I guess you can have adequate buck-age structure, without the protection of yearling bucks, especially with the use of quotas, but you can't have QDM without an adequate buck age structure.

Yearling buck protection is probably the easiest way to govern for a statewide management plan, but the most important aspect, and a "QDM Essential", is that you have to have an adequate age structure, according to Brian Murphy.

My area is the opposite of yours, we actually need to save our mature does, as we are undoubtably way below the necessary limits of carrying capacity. Doe fawns and older bucks are the best harvest stategy.

Luv2hunteup
03-31-2003, 07:55 PM
Figuring out which does to shoot has had me scratching my head at camp for some time. After the bad winters of '95-'96 & '96-'97 it was a no brainer. Ma nature did all the killing we needed to last for a few years. The DNR also did their part by not giving out doe tags for a few years.

Then came 2000, it was time to step up to the plate and take a few does. I figured I needed to take 3 does, but what age class, with or without fawns and if they had fawns which ones to shoot.
It took awhile to find some people and alot of reading to figure out which ones to take.

Here's what I ended up doing and why. My plan was to wait until muzzle loading season. I figured that the does would be my bait during rifle season. I wanted to get rid of two large does that were the main stay of two of my bigger food plots. I would see them there at all times of day. These two would run off every other deer that came into these plots in the spring and early summer. Plus they seem to chase off the younger bucks that would try to feed in the clover later in the year. I was trying to keep the younger bucks away from my neighbors who do not practice any kind of restraint on shooting any thing with antlers or bumps on their head.

I took two and a buddy of mine took one. The largest was 5.5 years old 155#, the next was 4.5 years old 145# and the youngest was 2.5 years old and 115#.

2001 was the same age class deer as in 2000. The largest one dressed at 162# one week after it was shot. She was massive.

This held the herd in check with my neighbors not complaining about too many deer coming off my land and eating their hay. I figured I had this doe shooting down to a science. Then came 2002 with multiple below zero days during muzzle loading season. The first weekend I saw quite a few nice does and I knew which ones to shoot off the plots. I asked some guys that I work with to bring their sons to camp for the second weekend and do the shooting for us seasoned hunters.

Hopefully I learned from this mistake. The does left for the yards during the week and the only deer that was shot was a young buck that had broken off antlers. I can't blame the young hunter or his father for this mistake. The mistake was mine for being so cockey for trying to out think ma nature.

NorthJeff
07-31-2006, 04:47 PM
QDM is still the same after all these years on this site;)

farmlegend
07-31-2006, 07:37 PM
Indeed, QDM is the same.

Here's what's changing, though, and undeniably accelerating - the acceptance of QDM as the future of deer hunting, not only by more and more hunters, but, perhaps even more importantly, informed members of the public at large. And that's not to mention QDM being embraced by thousands of resource professionals across the USA as the right way to manage deer.

Very gratifying to those of us who've been at it for many years. To those hunters who are new to the QDM fold, I personally salute you for educating yourself with an open mind. The future of deer hunting looks a little bit brighter every single day.:D