Canadian Rules

[Dick Graves]

A couple of my pals have been fishing in Mitchells Bay on Lake St. Clair. Herd of a 15 7/8 " perch being taken over there on Thursday.

Now the new twist. Seems that our northern neighbors have some new rules for 2003, read them before you fish. Any container, pail, cooler, etc. that has fish in them must have the name and address of the owner on the container, or the whole thing will be confiscated, fish and all.

I suppose this is to keep people from taking over the 50 fish limit (perch). If you are stopped and the pail contains more then 50 fish, you will be fined. I imagine that this will apply to boaters also (name and address on the container).

My friend says that the authorities are enforcing this and are patrolling LSC on 4 wheelers, 3-4 officers together.

Bottom line, abide by their rules or face the consequences, also be aware that they are vigorously enforcing DUI rules on LSC and on there roads. Be carefull!:(

[William H Bonney]

I know that the OPP are very uptight, but are you tellin me that I have to have my name and address on my 5 gallon buckets and minnow bucket?

"Say it ain't so Joe, please Joe"

[ERGOMAN]

Been to Mitchells for the last two friday's and haven't seen the OPP. The locals are really pissed though about these rules. They say that even Canadians are getting tickets for this. Supposeably we need, original (no photocopies) proof of insurance for truck/vehicle that says were insured in canada,original proof of insurance for your 4wheeler or sled, helmets for everyone that is moving without using thier legs, and names on the buckets. And to top it off, Dennis was less than appreciative both times I was in his shop.

[catfishhoge]

So use an address lable!

Rick

[Big Frank 25]

Only reference to that rule I could find was for live boxes not attached to your boat. I guess if you keep water in your bucket to keep your fish alive then the rule would apply. I'm sure we'll hear more about this one.

[Fried Fillets]

Talked to a guy in Tilbury that fishes a lot. He told me about the name and address thing on your fishing bucket. Frank, the way I understand it, having water in your bucket means nothing. I'm headed over in the morning, my name and address is on my bucket. I felt like a geek while I was writing it on my bucket, hopefully it was worth it.:D

[dieseldude]

I love Canada and everything they have to offer us sportspersons, but they are a little obsessive.

Here is a good example, there trail speed limit is 35 miles per hour, give me a break. A normal trail in Canada is as wide as most dirt roads, and they get as wide as a 5 lane expressway. OPP are very tough.

Another thing you must have while trail riding is proof of insurance, they can get you for that too.

Do not take them lightly (OPP) they are very strick. I would just write my name on all my buckets just to be safe.

[MSUICEMAN]

according to the mitchells bay website, basshaven called up the MNR station, and asked about such rule. They said that it was intended for use of live baskets to keep game fish in. This would include your buckeyt, but not bait bucket and that whoever gets a ticket for that should call them..... it should still be up on their site, search for it. if you get one, it is prolly worth the call.

Steve

[ERGOMAN]

Dennis at Basshaven was standing right there while the local told me what a scam it was and how the OPP was fining EVEN the canuks. I can always choose not to go to Canada, thank God the we live in the US.

[zman]

Hey,
They make it hard for me to take time out of my day off and spend my money over there...............



Zman

[dieseldude]

Splitshot,
Im not so sure that is the case. I have had nothing but good experiences with most places of business, restaurants, and hotels, gas stations etc, all love our money.
Ever been to Quebec? Your statement is very true there! There is no pleasing them, they just hate everyone!

[fmontie]

I've heard that the have a law stating no booze in any shanty also, no even beer. Doesn't matter if your walking or got a taxi ride. Seems like the OPP and mndr are out to get their quota. Every time i'm on the Lake Simcoe website somebody is complaining about harrassment.. Keeping my business right here in the good-old USA.......

[Johnr]

Hi folks,
It is true about the names on your buckets and stuff like that. I was there today with some canucks and they told me all about it.
Sounds like gestapo type stuff. They are busting people left and right. I was lucky they never checked me today. they were out there. Johnr

[Dick Graves]

My understanding is exactly that, your name and address on your buckets, etc. that contain fish.:eek:

[bounty hunter]

They also have a 50 perch limit and 50 perch in possesion limit un like simcoe's 50 - 100..Im sure if you pm canadian hunter he can answer the questions on canadian fishing laws..

[ESOX]

http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/MNR/fishing/p917.html

[ESOX]

General Ontario regs page:

http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/MNR/fishing/gen.html

[skeets]

Is it that tough to put your name on a bucket. I see a lot of people complaining about taking a minute to put a name on a bucket. I have seen so called sportsman fill up a bucket with fish and set it in the weeds while they catch more so if the DNR comes around, they can't prove it is their bucket. How do you know who's bucket of fish it is. I really liked the post that this is another way of saying american's stop fishing here. I can see the OPP standing around think hmmm, if we make people put there names on a bucket, the american's won't come over here fishing because they are too lazy. Sounds like a good law to me.

[Fried Fillets]

Bounty Hunter, I had to check the regs. because I thought your post was incorrect, but you were right. I don't understand why you can possess 100 perch from one lake or area, versus 50 from another area in the same province. Doesn't make sense.

[MSUICEMAN]

skeets,

its not even that that is a law for one to have your name on your bucket, as i almost understand that, but i still fail to see how this would stop someone from filling up one that is unnamed and hiding it? Also, the law for your gamefish bucket to be named somewhat makes sense to me, but ticketing someone because they didn't put their name on their bait bucket? come on, you gotta have some leniancy.... especially since its just an inane interpretation of the law. I can see warning or what not, but giving a ticket to someone that interpreted the law different than that certain MNR guy? give me a break. Especially considering the fact that there isn't even a consensus between all MNR officials as to what the law actually means. At least most the COs give you the benefit of the doubt over interpretations of the law (leader length of hooks with a weight at the end of the line for one).

It just seems as if the MNR goes out of their way to give tickets, not warnings, to US citizens coming over to fish. Not only this, but also do not publicize the finer points of the rather complicated fishing laws that Ontario has. I found some more last night that i'm sure almost every american fishing for pike with tipups in canada breaks, and maybe even some crappie fisherman. This would be like US cops staying at the border waiting for any canadian with a car built for the canadian market to come over the border because of some inane regulation difference between canada and the US and ticketing them without as much as a warning.

done rambling
steve

[Canadian Hunter]

This ticket stuff is getting out of hand!

This was started as a rumor last year on lake erie,, the ticket probably was handed out to some smatazz that wanted to give the (new)officer a bad time! and he wrote him up for all he could!

There has been no tickets handed out for this that Ive heard of this year. They are writing tickets for no helmet/ins/reg/no lic.

I was stopped 2 weeks ago by the mnr coming off erie,, checked my lic and fish numbers,,, when I pointed out to him that I didnt have this stuff on my buckets. He told me Like I care,, you have a lic, your under your limit, I see you brought all your trash back with you, Its a stupid law! now if I was being a jerk to him,, yep he could have gotten me for something!

[tubejig]

That would be kind of like me sitting in my shanty without my name and address on my tip-up when its 2 feet away from my door. "I wonder who owns that one?" DUH!!!!!


tubejig

[TrailFndr]

I don't understand why you can possess 100 perch from one lake or area, versus 50 from another area in the same province. Doesn't make sense.

the reason is Simple, its called good management, we have the same thing over here, some lakes have higher size limits, some higher or lower creel limits.

Simcoe is a different fishery then the rest of the providence, and a different economy, they actually WANT people to fish there. having a higher possesion limit for that lake is one or the other, and I would bet that wiht the type of fishery that the lake has, Manegement is likely the key