Expandable broadheads

[jshankel81]

I've been shooting expandable broadheads for the last 4 years now and loved them but recently bought muzzys. I should of just thrown the 20 bucks in the drain. My expandables shoot so much straighter. The muzzys wobble all over the place. I'm pulling 67 pds with a bear instinct bow just 2 years old. Shooting 288 fps with it. Does anybody see why i can't shoot regular broadheads,they just won't work for me for some reason. I just get nervous with expandables if they would happen not to open which hasn't happened yet thats why i'm trying out the muzzys.

[hartofthethumb]

My guess would be you just need to tune your bow a little. With that speed there is no reason you wouldn't be able to tune most broadheads to shoot the same as your feild tips. Go over to archerytalk.com, in the hunting section there is a sticky with all the info and instruction you could want regarding broadhead tuning.

[HAMMER33]

First things first, paper tune your field tips. You can shoot 300 plus with fixed but everything must be right. Expandables make it easy to shoot with bows that are off a little. If the bows right get some rubber O-rings that fit snug around the broadhead just above the threads. Now tune it to your feathers and ajust until you like the group. I have boadhead arrows and field arrows, now I shoot aluminum and want strait arrows that are perfect for hunting. Carbon shouldn't matter they are strait till they break. There are lots of things to consider so find someone you trust and talk about your bow. Weight of broadhead, cutting diameter, arrow tune and I mean are the veins all put on right or are they stuck on all different. Are the limbs tightend the same and do your cams let off at the exact same time. This is all veriables that together can magnify and throw your groups to s**t. :help: Good luck and I hope this helps.

[KEN-813]

I do play allot with fixed heads to see for recommendations of what shoots good for customers and what I have found, sometimes the best tuned and arrow matched set ups will just not shoot fixed blade broad heads in the same spot as field points, no matter what you do, and from bow to bow is will differ too., sometimes even a 6in difference is not uncommon,

I always found with most fixed heads that I could group the broad head excellent, but say it was 4 inches left and 3 inches high at 20 yards compared to field points, I always found myself having one bow sight set up to shoot field points and one to shoot my broad heads and I was good to go, until I found a mechanical broad head that I liked and I never really looked back ;)

[KEN-813]

One of the most accurate fixed blade broad heads I have shot in a long time is the new F-15 from Eastman Outdoors / Carbon Express, my daughter is shooting them this year, they shoot unbelievably good, with no dicking around, I screwed them on and they shot exactly the same as my field points out to 60 yards with my set up at 282fps.

They are a cut on contact style head with 2 sets of bleeder blades, and they will work great for my daughter at 36lbs or for any bow for that matter.

[sbooy42]

I hunt with mechanicals but tune and practice with fixed heads..Montecs, snuffer ss, & slicktricks. I have tried Muzzies but for some reason I have never got them to group well. Not sure why but I often hear the same from other guys...Some love em, some hate em:dizzy:

As mentioned it is very important to make sure your bow is in tune and the arrow is flying straight..otherwise you could be wasting alot of energy trying to put an arrow through a deer sideways..

Shoot what your confident with.. Shot placement kills not broadheads

[Swamp Monster]

Tuned bow or not, sometimes Muzzy's are just a finicky head. In your case it does sound like a tuning issue if the heads are all over the place however. When you say wobble is that in flight or during spin tests? Fixed blade heads will definitely magnify in problems in bow tuning, arrow tuning or form that is for sure. Personaly with fixed blades heads I prefer feathers with an aggressive helical set up. These have always seemed to stabilize and tune the best in my set ups....I also use a heavier arrow and make sure it is soined correctly. Personaly, I think Muzzy's are one of the most overrated archery products on the market...they are good products, no argument, but today, they aren't any better than other high quality broadheads on the market, many of which are far more forgiving to shoot.

[Johnson16]

When you say wobble is that in flight or during spin tests? Fixed blade heads will definitely magnify in problems in bow tuning, arrow tuning or form that is for sure.

I struggled with in flight wobble when I first got my bow. It was my first thin handled bow and my grip was used to the think grip on my previous setup. I still notice wobble, when I let sloppy grip and form in the mix.

[jshankel81]

I've shot my field points,expandables,fixed blades. All on different arrows and on the same arrows. I don't think its a tuning issue cause i can put a 2" group together with my field points and my expandables and when i shoot my fixed they just wobble like crazy. There really not all over the place they just wobble where expandables won't. I guess i've never shot fixed blades so why would i start now,i've never had a problem downing bucks with mechanicals. thanks for the info guys but i think i'll just keep killing bucks with something that shoots straight and never lets me down

[sbooy42]

I guess i've never shot fixed blades so why would i start now,i've never had a problem downing bucks with mechanicals. thanks for the info guys but i think i'll just keep killing bucks with something that shoots straight and never lets me down
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[Michihunter]

I hunt with mechanicals but tune and practice with fixed heads..Montecs, snuffer ss, & slicktricks. I have tried Muzzies but for some reason I have never got them to group well. Not sure why but I often hear the same from other guys...Some love em, some hate em:dizzy:

As mentioned it is very important to make sure your bow is in tune and the arrow is flying straight..otherwise you could be wasting alot of energy trying to put an arrow through a deer sideways..

Shoot what your confident with.. Shot placement kills not broadheads
Definitely agree with this statement. I would also agree with Hart of the Thumb in that you can get almost any BH to tune with a FP IF you tune your bow and arrows correctly. The only exception to that rule for me has been the longer 3:1 heads like the Bear Razors and Zwickeys out of a faster bow. Just too much planing going on with that much surface area.

[Non Typical]

First off, I have not found a bow that I could not get the fp and the bh to shoot the same poi. That being said, some are a lot harder to do. I first check the arrow for straightness, then the bh to the shaft for the same. Check bow in tune, complete!! Shoot thru paper, and then start adjusting sites, to get the most out of your bow you must have a tuned bow! You can gain arrow speed with one, and lose on a bow without.
Picture an arrow flying sideways even just a little will get poi different than a straight flight. The arrow will slow down due to more air resistants and the bh will now take over the poi. That is why the mechanical will have the same poi. Some of the longer bh's on the market like the Thunderhead, Steelforce (some), Muzzy MX series, and others that use the longer shanks have a chance to change the foc even with the same weight as the ft. Most of the mfg's are going to the shorter shanks and that is the reason why.
Pat