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.480
06-30-2009, 07:52 AM
:rant:By the end of this week wolves will be back on the endangered species list again.

What a circus.:rant:




tommy-n
06-30-2009, 08:02 AM
the yoopers puttin a hurtin on them;)

Spartan88
06-30-2009, 12:44 PM
Who was the federal judge that bought into PETA/HSUS garbage this time?

Airoh
07-01-2009, 01:25 PM
Change in Gray Wolf Status Reverses Michigan Lethal Control LawsWednesday, July 1, 2009 8:55 AM
From: "Mary Dettloff" <dettloffm1@MICHIGAN.GOV>Add sender to ContactsTo: DNRWIRE@LISTSERV.MICHIGAN.GOVFOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 1, 2009

Contact: Brian Roell, 906-228-6561 or Mary Dettloff, 517-335-3014

Change in Gray Wolf Status Reverses Michigan Lethal Control Laws

A recent decision by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to return the
Great Lakes population of gray wolves to the federal endangered species
list will result in several significant changes to the management of
wolves in Michigan, the Department of Natural Resources said today.

When wolves were removed from the endangered species list in early May,
the DNR gained the authority to manage wolves under the state’s wolf
management plan, which allows for lethal control in cases where
nonlethal methods, such as noisemaking devices and barrier fencing, are
not successful or viable. Additionally, two state laws, allowing
livestock and pet owners to take lethal control against wolves in the
act of preying upon domestic animals, went into effect.

However, the federal decision to return wolves to the endangered
species list means the new lethal control laws and the state’s wolf
management plan are no longer valid, said Department of Natural
Resources wolf program coordinator Brian Roell.

“With wolves back on the endangered species list, DNR staff can no
longer authorize the use of lethal control against problem wolves, and
livestock and pet owners cannot kill a wolf to stop it from preying upon
their animals,” Roell said. “Wolf management and monitoring will now
revert to the parameters set out by the federal government.”

The DNR will continue to work with the USFWS and the U.S. Dept. of
Agriculture to manage and monitor the state’s wolf population, as it
has done since 1989 when the recent wolf population was first detected,
Roell explained. Livestock or pet owners with a wolf depredation concern
should call the DNR’s RAP Line immediately at 800-292-7800 for
assistance. Wolf complaints or observation can be filed by calling your
local DNR office.

The federal decision to return wolves to the endangered species list
was made in response to a lawsuit filed in June by the Humane Society of
the United States and several other animal rights groups against the
U.S. Dept. of Interior and the USFWS, asking that the original decision
to delist wolves in April be reversed.

The lawsuit pointed out that the federal government had not taken
public comment on the Great Lakes wolf delisting, and the USFWS
responded by choosing to voluntarily relist the Great Lakes wolf
population.

“As biologists who study the science behind wolf management, we are
disappointed with the change in status,” Roell said. “With nearly
580 wolves in the state, Michigan’s wolf population is fully recovered
and we hope the topic of delisting will be revisited again in the near
future.”

For more information on wolves in Michigan, contact Roell at
906-228-6561 or go online to www.michigan.gov/wolves.

WoodsmanSmitty
07-02-2009, 09:25 AM
Sounds like another tree loving Judge that is judging on FEELING instesad of FACT:help::help::help:

Bonz 54
07-02-2009, 09:48 AM
Yooper's are problem solvers, always have been. Give them a problem and they will figure out a resolution for it. Just an observation on my part.:evilsmile FRANK

ART
07-04-2009, 08:35 AM
Is Michigan required to follow federal rules on wildlife, or is this another federal carrot we bow to?

Pinefarm
07-04-2009, 09:41 AM
Here's more depth to the story...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/30/great-lakes-wolves-back-o_n_222999.html


TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. — The federal government on Monday agreed to put gray wolves in the western Great Lakes region back on the endangered species list _ at least temporarily.

The decision came less than two months after the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service discontinued federal protection for about 4,000 wolves in Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin. The agency acknowledged Monday that it erred by not holding a legally required public comment period before taking action.

Under a settlement with five environmental and animal protection groups that had sued the agency earlier this month, the Fish and Wildlife Service said it would return Great Lakes wolves to the list while considering its next move. They had been classified as endangered from 1974 until their removal May 4.

About 1,300 wolves in Montana and Idaho also were dropped from the list then. Because a public comment period was held in their case, they are not covered by the deal announced Monday and their status will not change. A separate lawsuit on that case will move forward.

About 300 wolves in Wyoming remain listed.

U.S. District Judge Paul Friedman in Washington, D.C., must approve the settlement for it to take effect. If the Fish and Wildlife Service tries again to remove the wolves from the endangered list, it will hold a 60-day comment period, the settlement says.

The agency still believes "wolves in the western Great Lakes have met the recovery criteria and don't need to be listed," Georgia Parham, spokeswoman for the Fish and Wildlife Service, said.

Parham said federal officials had thought a comment period was not required because one had been held for a previous effort to reclassify the wolves. But they now agree another was needed, she said.

The activist groups that sued, including the Humane Society of the United States, say state plans for dealing with the wolves open the door to future hunting and trapping of the animals.

"This agreement will give the administration a much-needed opportunity to reconsider the failed wolf-management policies of the past, and hopefully put to rest the states' reckless plans to start sport hunting and trapping imperiled wolves," said Jonathan Lovvorn, a vice president of the Humane Society.

Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin contend their management plans will allow the species to continue flourishing.

The states recently have allowed people to kill wolves attacking livestock or pets. Those provisions would be nullified once wolves again are classified as endangered.

Gray wolves were listed as endangered in 1974, after they had been wiped out across most of the lower 48 states in the early 20th century by hunting and government-sponsored poisoning.

Thanks to federal protection and changing attitudes, they've come back strongly in the western Great Lakes over the past two decades. Minnesota's estimated population is 2,922; Michigan's is 580; and Wisconsin's, 626.

The federal government has tried six times in the past five years to drop them from the endangered list but has been thwarted by lawsuits.

Wildwood_Deckers
07-04-2009, 10:47 AM
Well, my response to this would be... anyone that has wolves coming in and killing their livestock file a lawsuit againts the Federal Government for not controling "their" wolves...
Also, don't let anyone tell you that the Federal Government is exempt from lawsuits... its totally false...

Clyde

Mickey Finn
07-04-2009, 02:52 PM
Well, my response to this would be... anyone that has wolves coming in and killing their livestock file a lawsuit againts the Federal Government for not controling "their" wolves...
Also, don't let anyone tell you that the Federal Government is exempt from lawsuits... its totally false...

Clyde

Well, I guess thats one way to handle it.:coolgleam

Chuckgrmi
07-04-2009, 03:45 PM
Well, I guess thats one way to handle it.:coolgleam

You are absolutely correct. It is "one" way to handle it.

I prefer the "SSS" way. The heck with the courts.

First it was doves. Now it is wolves. That HSUS group of nuts is really getting on my nerves.http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj317/chuckgrmi/DirtKicker.gif

Where is the MUCC on this? I know they were not too vocal on the dove bill

TrekJeff
07-04-2009, 07:55 PM
Lets be honest, on the list off the list, people are still going to do what they WANT to do. I've heard stories of people rigging treble hooks the size used on hand gaffs with chunks of meat just high enough off the groud as to where a wolf has to jump to get it. The WHAM, hooked wolf.

I'm in no way advocating actions like this, I'd love to see someone get caught doing such a thing. But the bottom line is that "population"control has always been in the residents hands. So regardless if a new ruling goes into effect, people are still going to do what they choose to do. I was one of the students, back in the day that participated on the wolf project study. Facts are facts and when I say I've heard "stories" I'm being humble.

Mickey Finn
07-04-2009, 10:25 PM
Lets be honest, on the list off the list, people are still going to do what they WANT to do. I've heard stories of people rigging treble hooks the size used on hand gaffs with chunks of meat just high enough off the groud as to where a wolf has to jump to get it. The WHAM, hooked wolf.

I'm in no way advocating actions like this, I'd love to see someone get caught doing such a thing. But the bottom line is that "population"control has always been in the residents hands. So regardless if a new ruling goes into effect, people are still going to do what they choose to do. I was one of the students, back in the day that participated on the wolf project study. Facts are facts and when I say I've heard "stories" I'm being humble.

What your talking about is called a wolfs angle. Or was anyway. Like wise, I'm in no way advocating anyone breaking the law.

duxdog
07-05-2009, 08:40 AM
Wolves.....smoke a pack a day.:coolgleam

2PawsRiver
07-05-2009, 08:52 AM
people rigging treble hooks the size used on hand gaffs with chunks of meat just high enough off the groud as to where a wolf has to jump to get it. The WHAM, hooked wolf.


The guy that does that is one sick POS.

Mickey Finn
07-05-2009, 09:05 AM
The guy that does that is one sick POS.

Come on. This technique dates back to the Iron age. It started long before wolves were seen as anything except an animal that might eat your children and livestock. I imagine back then. Anyone who thought they should be protected would be considered, as you say, one sick POS.:lol: