Buffalo Carp in Lk St Clair? (Pic)

[det07]

Shot a carp the other night that looked totally different than the common carp we had been getting. Look at the second fish down from the top. I immediatly thought it looked like a buffalo carp? I read that there are some smallmouth buffalo carp that are native to the Great Lakes? I have close up pics but not that I can put up right now. You can see it is more silver in color. Its eyes were small and black and its mouth was different than the commons. (no wiskers)

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/500/medium/Lake_St_Clair_bowfishing.JPG

[Shoeman]

More than likely a big-mouth buffalo

According to Mike Thomas (DNR) there are quite a few in Michigan, although mostly in Lake Erie. I got a 30+# near 9 Mile a few years back thinking it was a carp until a few "southern boys" brought the lack of barbles to my attention. I sent the picture to Mike and he gave a positive ID

Looks like you had a great day :SHOCKED:

[DuckMan87]

i was shootin the ditch around 94&harper a few years back...thats all we saw was them silver ones...shot at least 50 or so, first i had ever seen them at that point and have yet to see one since

[Silverman]

Black Buffalo Carp

[det07]

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/500/medium/DSCF06221.JPG

Here is a closer pic..still kinda blurry

[Silverman]

Its a small one, but it still looks like a black buff to me

this past April GVDocHoliday and myself had about a 35lb+ black buff on the end of our arrows.... but we lost it.. and i still cry at night.

[GVDocHoliday]

Its a small one, but it still looks like a black buff to me

this past April GVDocHoliday and myself had about a 35lb+ black buff on the end of our arrows.... but we lost it.. and i still cry at night.

How dare you mention that!!!

Now I have to go drink to drown that memory. Thanks....****.

[Silverman]

How dare you mention that!!!

Now I have to go drink to drown that memory. Thanks....****.


My counselor said i had too, its one of the steps in the greiving process ;)

[GVDocHoliday]

My counselor said i had too, its one of the steps in the greiving process ;)

I'm not talking to you for 10 seconds....1...2...

[GVDocHoliday]

...8...9...10


There, I hope you've learned your lesson.

[Silverman]

lesson learned

[Carpman]

Its a buff, no relation to the carp family, never heard of them in this lake, Erie has afew and around flat rock.

[Silverman]

Its a buff, no relation to the carp family.. .

Thats news to me! Where can i find info on this? Ive always known the Bigmouth Buff and the Black Buff to be apart of the carp family. :confused:

[det07]

There is at least one more out there. I missed one that was a bit bigger. Had the same shape & color..

[jwhooper]

From wiki.answers.com:

A buffalo carp is not really a carp. It is a fish in the sucker family called a Small Mouth Buffalo. This fish is commonly confused with the common carp and thus its colloquial name has evolved to be "Buffalo Carp." The fish is commonly found in the southern USA. Multiple Small Mouth Buffalo of over 70 lbs have been caught wiht rod and reel in the USA.

More here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ictiobus

[tjfishinboy]

ive shot a few at pt mouilee. the biggest ive got was about 18 or so.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f96/flyrodsrock/DSCN2756.jpg

[Silverman]

Kind of a bad pic, but this is my one Black Buff..
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/kernal5/Bowfishing6-1-08006.jpg

[Carpman]

Most think the buff's are the same family as the carp, The same goes for the grass carp and they changed it's name in the USA to White Amur, a name developed to avoid use of the name "carp"as its not part of the same family (Cyprinus carpio) and is Ctenopharyngodon idella.

[Silverman]

Interesting, Thanks for the info!

[stickem]

how am i spose to read that when i cant even sound it out ahahaha but thanks for the info anyways...