Game 5

[buckshot-0]

Well I'm starting this one. It's gonna be a good one. Lokks like the Wings called up Leino, Abdelkader, Downey and Kindl. I hope Downey takes to Pronger.

[Michihunter]

I hope Downey restrains himself from feeding into the Ducks game plan. Pronger will eat this kid for lunch if he don't. And I don't mean in a fight, I mean in hockey.

If the Wings play with the intensity they had in Game 4, this will end up a win.

[GrizzlyBear]

I'm hoping the 6 goals they pumped in last game may have broken Hiller's confidence. That can be a pretty tough thing to deal with for a young goaltender in his position. Hopefully they can keep the momentum going from last game's pummelling and keep rolling.....

[Nimrod1]

Well I'm starting this one. It's gonna be a good one. Lokks like the Wings called up Leino, Abdelkader, Downey and Kindl. I hope Downey takes to Pronger.

As far as I know, Abdelkader is scheduled to take Kopecky's spot, the others will be in the stands.

[Ieatantlers]

As far as I know, Abdelkader is scheduled to take Kopecky's spot, the others will be in the stands.

Since Kopecky now needs surgery from getting his ass kicked so bad.:lol: I never thought I could laugh at someone getting beat up, especially a Red Wing. I guess things change.

[bucksnbows]

Don Cherry said last night that out of respect the ducks did not bang their sticks on the bench after the fight like hockey players usually do, because they all knew the kid couldn't fight. He said it like a code of ethics between hockey players. Beauchemin said Kopesky had it coming to him though.

[adam bomb]

Well, that was a pretty good first period for the Wings. Did everything but put one in the net....Hopefully they can keep it going.

[bounty hunter]

There looking real good and I hope they keep it up because the ducks look like there wearing down.

[casscityalum]

Score!!! The MULE!! Good job for the first timer assist in a Playoff Game! Abdelkader I think made the assist?

[casscityalum]

Score again!!! 2-0 Wings!!

Edit: Review Goal stands :D

[bounty hunter]

2-1 there sitting back too much again..

[midwestfisherman]

Helm scores!!!! It's a beautiful thing!

[imjon]

Can we now say Ozzie is a great goaltender? Fantastic saves today.

[Michihunter]

Helm scores!!!! It's a beautiful thing!
That may have been my favorite goal up to this point. No one deserves it more in my opinion. His intensity and play at either end of the ice has been a huge difference maker for this team. How about that play by Datsyuk when he flipped the puck over the net from behind and then tried to stuff it in himself? If that works he makes the highlight reels for the next 20 years!!:D:D


ALL IN ALL ANOTHER SOLID PERFORMANCE BY THE ENTIRE TEAM.

[midwestfisherman]

That may have been my favorite goal up to this point. No one deserves it more in my opinion. His intensity and play at either end of the ice has been a huge difference maker for this team. How about that play by Datsyuk when he flipped the puck over the net from behind and then tried to stuff it in himself? If that works he makes the highlight reels for the next 20 years!!:D:D


ALL IN ALL ANOTHER SOLID PERFORMANCE BY THE ENTIRE TEAM.

Great game! That move by Datsyuk was pretty awesome.

[Nimrod1]

That may have been my favorite goal up to this point. No one deserves it more in my opinion. His intensity and play at either end of the ice has been a huge difference maker for this team. How about that play by Datsyuk when he flipped the puck over the net from behind and then tried to stuff it in himself? If that works he makes the highlight reels for the next 20 years!!:D:D


ALL IN ALL ANOTHER SOLID PERFORMANCE BY THE ENTIRE TEAM.

That was too cool to see Helm get rewarded! Pavel never ceases to amaze, he just plain thinks differant than most.

I did not enjoy the end-2-end there in the 3rd, but the Wings still kept the shots against down.

How about Stewy? Some on here wanted to give him the boot not so long ago.:lol:

[William H Bonney]

Score!!! The MULE!! Good job for the first timer assist in a Playoff Game! Abdelkader I think made the assist?

The Wings would be so screwed without Franzen...

[Ieatantlers]

You guys were crucifying the member the other day (I forget who and don't feel like looking it up) for saying Helm was the best on the ice, and that Babcock should have switched up lines almost how he has exactly. Now he doesn't look so stupid huh? :lol: Sweet game tonight. Anyone else miss all the interference calls the refs had? Dats flips one over the net and can't get out front because he is clearly contacted without the puck is the one that sticks out most in my mind. And I'm not sayings only on one side either, cause Lids got away with one too. Just piss poor officiating this series for some reason IMO.

[William H Bonney]

It's not just this series, IEA. The Pens/Caps is just as bad...:(

[adam bomb]

What a great game by the Wings, other than that short period where they sat back too much. Great effort all around. He didnt have to make allot of saves, but Osgood made some dandies when called apon.

I remember the Helm posts the other day too. The guys been great bring lots of energy to his team. His work ethic reminds me much of a young Chris Draper. Just a never quit tenacious player. Im glad he's in our line up....And while were at it, what about those that called out Stuart earlier this year. I think he's been our BEST defenseman in the playoffs. Been very physical, makes smart plays within his zone and has been good on the offensive side of things. Been really good for us.

And in the end, no matter who likes or dislikes certain players, im just happy we won the game and im looking forward to a very intense game 6 in Anahiem . Lets hope we can carry tonights play into the next and see this thing through...Go Wings!

[DE82]

I was at the game today :D what an awesome game to go too. The fans were great, Osgood made me look good AGAIN..he didn't have a whole lot of work but he made some nice ones.(It was because I wore my Osgood jersey ;) Helm was a beast out there and Hossa and Pav looked crazy good at times. Drapper took the pre-game skate and looked good believe it or not. I thought Cleary played a great game too, skated hard the whole game. Alex D was there too signing stuff for the fans.

[Spanky]

As long as the piss poor calls go both ways, I don't mind it. I would rather watch a wide open and fast paced game. In game 3 the BS calls on the wings and then the blatant non calls for the ducks was just criminal.

I wouldn't be suprised to see this series go to game 7. Hiller is a hell of a goalie, his team just lets the wings get in there too many times a period.

[William H Bonney]

,,,,his team just lets the wings get in there too many times a period.

It's not their fault,, it's Carlisle's. Changing lines so fast. Murphy and Redmond caught onto right away. Carlisle is giving up half the rink right off the bat. You can't win in the playoff's(or any game for that matter) with no forechecking whatsoever. He's getting out coached and starting to panic.

[DE82]

I will gladly say Stuart has stepped it up big time and is playing at a high level now. Thank you Stuart for making me eat my words :D

[Little Roober]

Cough::Ozzy sucks::Cough What?:lol::hide:

[Steve]

I was Duck Hunting, er... at the game today. Wings looked good. Tape to tape. Who played in the place of Chelli? He actually didn't look bad during warm ups.

[adam bomb]

Meech...They sat Chelios as a healthy scratch.

[Steve]

Meech...They sat Chelios as a healthy scratch.


Thanks for the clarification.

[FERG 06]

[quote=DE82;2697542]I was at the game today :D what an awesome game to go too.

[quote=Steve;2697626]I was Duck Hunting, er... at the game today. quote]

Geez, we coulda had a meet & greet.
I was in Sec 216A row 10. :D

Best game I ever been to.

[DE82]

[quote=DE82;2697542]I was at the game today :D what an awesome game to go too.

[quote=Steve;2697626]I was Duck Hunting, er... at the game today. quote]

Geez, we coulda had a meet & greet.
I was in Sec 216A row 10. :D

Best game I ever been to.225a row 14, awesome game

*started some OZ-ZY! OZ-ZY! chants* :lol:

[FERG 06]

[quote=FERG 06;2697725][quote=DE82;2697542]I was at the game today :D what an awesome game to go too.

225a row 14, awesome game

*started some OZ-ZY! OZ-ZY! chants* :lol:

Couldn't get in on to many of the chants, I was a little hoarse. ;)
Was trying to get on camera. Had my white towel tied to my cane waving it over my head. :lol:

[DE82]

[quote=DE82;2697729][quote=FERG 06;2697725]

Couldn't get in on to many of the chants, I was a little hoarse. ;)
Was trying to get on camera. Had my white towel tied to my cane waving it over my head. :lol:Yeah...I can't talk :lol: Voice is gone.

How about that sign "Hey Refs, Datsyuk goes to Dr.Rahmanie(sp?) you should too" :lol::lol:

[greelhappy]

When Osgood made that glove save while laying on the ice, IMO it not only saved a goal but possibly the game as well. the ducks were coming on pretty strong and that goal would have tied the score and given them a huge lift. That 4-1 score does not tell the story of the game. Helm's goal with 3 something left gave the Wings some breathing room. Please, will someone help me out on the in the crease, not in the crease rule. On Helm's goal, Cleary was full in the blue area. For a second I thought they were going to review the goal. They didn't, and no body complained. I am :confused::confused::confused::confused:

[buckshot-0]

When Osgood made that glove save while laying on the ice, IMO it not only saved a goal but possibly the game as well. the ducks were coming on pretty strong and that goal would have tied the score and given them a huge lift. That 4-1 score does not tell the story of the game. Helm's goal with 3 something left gave the Wings some breathing room. Please, will someone help me out on the in the crease, not in the crease rule. On Helm's goal, Cleary was full in the blue area. For a second I thought they were going to review the goal. They didn't, and no body complained. I am :confused::confused::confused::confused:


Hiller was crying like a baby after that play. I'm not sure on the rules, but Cleary's skate was tucked behind Hiller's leg and I think Hiller was looking for an interference call.

I give a hats off to Abdelkader for a solid performance.

[adam bomb]

Once the puck is in the crease i believe the opposing player can enter the crease as long as he doesnt interfere with the goalies ability to make the save. Seems there is some controversy over that goal because Cleary was actually strattling Hiller's leg, so technically he is impeding his ability to play goal. Probably shoulda been a goaltender interference call there in all honesty. Theres quite a bit of talk about that Helm goal in the sports cast this morning. But, like the sportscaster said, refs make mistakes and they all even out. Detroit was on that end of the stick in game 3 with their disallowed goal.;)

EDIT:
Heres the link to the goaltender interference rule and the loose pucks/rebounds section of goaltender interference.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=26480
69.6 Rebounds and Loose Pucks - In a rebound situation, or where a goalkeeper and attacking player(s) are simultaneously attempting to play a loose puck, whether inside or outside the crease, incidental contact with the goalkeeper will be permitted, and any goal that is scored as a result thereof will be allowed.

So, after reading that, i can understand the non call because he was going after the rebound. He took one wack at it and his momentum carried him in, but he immediately backed out of the crease.

[FERG 06]

[quote=FERG 06;2697750][quote=DE82;2697729]Yeah...I can't talk :lol: Voice is gone.

How about that sign "Hey Refs, Datsyuk goes to Dr.Rahmanie(sp?) you should too" :lol::lol:

Too funny!

[quote=adam bomb;2697942] But, like the sportscaster said, refs make mistakes and they all even out. Detroit was on that end of the stick in game 3 with their disallowed goal.;)quote]

Maybe evening up for the slash on Osgood for the 2nd goal in game 3. :sad:

[adam bomb]

I dont like bad officiating, no matter what team it happens for. It disrupts the flow and in many cases strongly dictates the outcome of a game. I know i just want it called right and consistant for all teams. Its much better for the sake of good hockey that way.

[Ieatantlers]

Not to mention- and I have no idea why they did this- they no longer review those crease violations. Seems like a pretty easy review- but I know they no longer can review those (maybe since the last lockout even?)

[Joe Archer]

When Osgood made that glove save while laying on the ice, IMO it not only saved a goal but possibly the game as well...

I have been on the "Ozzy for Conn Smythe" bandwagon all year. Right now I would say that Franzen is giving him a run for his money.
The ducks? Stick a fork in em.... DONE!
<----<<<

[DE82]

I have been on the "Ozzy for Conn Smythe" bandwagon all year. Right now I would say that Franzen is giving him a run for his money.
The ducks? Stick a fork in em.... DONE!
<----<<<I would love nothing more than for Ozzy to win the Conn Smythe since he gets no respect around the league but Franzen has got it thus far. Now that could change just like last year when Z won it when Mule went down but I think if you ask Ozzy he'll tell you, he just wants a cup and it doesn't matter who gets it. Still the winnginest goalie in wings history, top ten in playoffs wins and all time wins, 3 cups, and no respect..makes you wonder what some peoples idea of a good goalie is :dizzy:

[Little Roober]

I would love nothing more than for Ozzy to win the Conn Smythe since he gets no respect around the league but Franzen has got it thus far. Now that could change just like last year when Z won it when Mule went down but I think if you ask Ozzy he'll tell you, he just wants a cup and it doesn't matter who gets it. Still the winnginest goalie in wings history, top ten in playoffs wins and all time wins, 3 cups, and no respect..makes you wonder what some peoples idea of a good goalie is :dizzy:

Are you and ozzy a couple now or what? Sheesh..:dizzy:

[DE82]

Are you and ozzy a couple now or what? Sheesh..:dizzy:For telling it like it is? :dizzy: Facts are facts, if he was a bad goalie he would not have done what he's done period.

[Little Roober]

We get it. :rolleyes:

[Jigawhat]

For the love of all things Holy! Stop it already. You're worse than Versus and Sidney Crosby's under carriage.
Great, we get it. Osgood = Tom Brady of the NHL. For those of us that haven't lived under a rock for the past 3 decades, we realize goalies in Detroit get crucified when playing poorly and jocked when they play well.

Lets not forget to mention the fact he's played on arguably the best hockey club this league has seen in the past 20 years (if not one of the best in NHL history) ... With the best defensemen in the league and one of the greatest combinations of scoring talent in front of him. Or the fact that GM's around the league - that may have a bit more knowledge than you (I know... hard to believe) - have given him plenty of respect with the millions he's been paid in contracts, yet also have the sense to realize he is good goalie and a product of a great system.

Now carry on with your normal routine of patting yourself on the back at every opportunity you can... and crawling under the proverbeal skin of every sports-related thread you join.

[DE82]

We get it. :rolleyes:No you don't :rolleyes: because if you did you wouldn't make comments like you have because I stated facts...Then again Conklin sucks too right? That was you who said that correct? I'm sure Hasek sucked too, and Vernon(If you can even remember when he played for the wings)

This just in, bad goalies, don't beat good Ol' number 1's records

[DE82]

For the love of all things Holy! Stop it already. You're worse than Versus and Sidney Crosby's under carriage.
Great, we get it. Osgood = Tom Brady of the NHL. For those of us that haven't lived under a rock for the past 3 decades, we realize goalies in Detroit get crucified when playing poorly and jocked when they play well.

Lets not forget to mention the fact he's played on arguably the best hockey club this league has seen in the past 20 years (if not one of the best in NHL history) ... With the best defensemen in the league and one of the greatest combinations of scoring talent in front of him. Or the fact that GM's around the league - that may have a bit more knowledge than you (I know... hard to believe) - have given him plenty of respect with the millions he's been paid in contracts, yet also have the sense to realize he is good goalie and a product of a great system.

Now carry on with your normal routine of patting yourself on the back at every opportunity you can... and crawling under the proverbeal skin of every sports-related thread you join.Oh just shut your trolling up already. I'm tired of hearing how my opinion or when I state FACTS it means nothing because YOU don't agree with it.

Tom Brady's number of rings - THREE(MOST of any QB in the NFL)
Chris Osgood's number of rings - THREE(TIED for MOST of any Goalie in the NHL) Yeah man your right :rolleyes:

[augustus0603]

Wow. Getting a little ahead of ourselves, aren't we?

Still two more series to go if they get through this one. Have seen crazy things happen before and who knows?

A couple of guys get hurt...

[Jigawhat]

Oh just shut your trolling up already. I'm tired of hearing how my opinion or when I state FACTS it means nothing because YOU don't agree with it.

Tom Brady's number of rings - THREE(MOST of any QB in the NFL)
Chris Osgood's number of rings - THREE(TIED for MOST of any Goalie in the NHL) Yeah man your right :rolleyes:

I'm not gonna get into a pissing match with you, All I will say is that if the argument exists that:
Tom Brady = Product of a great system
Chris Osgood = Product of a great system

You can throw all the facts at the wall you want, but at the end of the day the argument will still exist.
Both exceptional at what they do. And even better in the clutch. No argument there. But when a #1 puts up the worst numbers in the league for the regular season, how does it come as such a surprise when some people think he sucks?
Here's one to ponder... If you were a GM would you pay him top dollar based on "respect" and number of rings?

[bounty hunter]

Oh just shut your trolling up already. I'm tired of hearing how my opinion or when I state FACTS it means nothing because YOU don't agree with it.

Tom Brady's number of rings - THREE(MOST of any QB in the NFL)
Chris Osgood's number of rings - THREE(TIED for MOST of any Goalie in the NHL) Yeah man your right :rolleyes:

Maybe it's you? :16suspect

[DE82]

Wow. Getting a little ahead of ourselves, aren't we?

Still two more series to go if they get through this one. Have seen crazy things happen before and who knows?

A couple of guys get hurt...That plays to my point of bringing up last year when Mule was on a tare and got hurt...if Mule stays healthy I don't see how he won't win the Conn Smythe, providing the wings win the cup of course.

I heard Rafi might play game 6, that would be great but I'm hoping Lebda is the one who sits, Ericson has been a machine out there.

[Nimrod1]

That plays to my point of bringing up last year when Mule was on a tare and got hurt...if Mule stays healthy I don't see how he won't win the Conn Smythe, providing the wings win the cup of course.

I heard Rafi might play game 6, that would be great but I'm hoping Lebda is the one who sits, Ericson has been a machine out there.

There is no way 52 gets sat down. Check his min vs Lebda yesterday, that will tell you who will be the odd man out. Of course there is the Cheli/Meech spot. My guess is that will be the spot Rafalski takes.

[Little Roober]

No you don't :rolleyes: because if you did you wouldn't make comments like you have because I stated facts...Then again Conklin sucks too right? That was you who said that correct? I'm sure Hasek sucked too, and Vernon(If you can even remember when he played for the wings)

This just in, bad goalies, don't beat good Ol' number 1's records

Ok. Conklin does suck. I have an opinion, there it is. Ozzy is better than Conklin. That's why he's playing and Conks isn't. Hasek was good, obviously. Vernon was good, obviously. And yes, I do remember that. You only have a few years on me buddy.

What I'm talking about is the future. Not the current playoff run. Currently, Conks wouldn't be able to win a cup. He just isn't capable IMO. Every time I say "new goalie," it's to replace Ozzy when he retires (still a ways away) or Conklin to have a better backup and carry on to replace Ozzy. And just to let you know, people don't always base their opinions off of facts.

[DE82]

Ok. Conklin does suck. I have an opinion, there it is. Ozzy is better than Conklin. That's why he's playing and Conks isn't. Hasek was good, obviously. Vernon was good, obviously. And yes, I do remember that. You only have a few years on me buddy.

What I'm talking about is the future. Not the current playoff run. Currently, Conks wouldn't be able to win a cup. He just isn't capable IMO. Every time I say "new goalie," it's to replace Ozzy when he retires (still a ways away) or Conklin to have a better backup and carry on to replace Ozzy. And just to let you know, people don't always base their opinions off of facts.A couple of good young guys in the system, McCulum(sp?) was the wings first RD pick last year. Given our cap and the fact we have to lose some guys off the team right now to re-sign Hossa I'm guessing they won't make a move for a "goalie of the future" this off season or any time soon. Conklin was never brought in to be the guy after Osgood is done either, look at his age, he's pretty up there himself when you think about it. He was brought in to be the backup.

[neil duffey]

Ok. Conklin does suck. I have an opinion, there it is. Ozzy is better than Conklin. That's why he's playing and Conks isn't. Hasek was good, obviously. Vernon was good, obviously. And yes, I do remember that. You only have a few years on me buddy.

What I'm talking about is the future. Not the current playoff run. Currently, Conks wouldn't be able to win a cup. He just isn't capable IMO. Every time I say "new goalie," it's to replace Ozzy when he retires (still a ways away) or Conklin to have a better backup and carry on to replace Ozzy. And just to let you know, people don't always base their opinions off of facts.

so you where 6 when the wings won the cup the first time in the modern area... and 7 for the repeat... im pretty sure a 6 year old is more worried about barney and finds than dmack and friends... i was 14 and just about 2 maybe 3 years into the whole hockey biz at that time of the first cup... so yeah, 7 years age difference kinda makes the picture a little more relevant.:lol: in the long run, i hate to be rude, but you really have no right recollecting a time period id bet my life, you don't remember, being 6 years old... conks is a great goalie, and i can't see how you can think other wise either. he doesn't play in the playoff because, in case you didn't know... ozzy is th starter and he won the cup last year. but i guess if conks was worth a damn, they would just over look that and put conks in... since they didnt, he must suck though right? i just had to chime in on the age thing, i got a big kick outta the whole, "ya only got a couple years on me" pretaining to de82 and you thing... 7 years is it? thats a tad more than a couple buddy:lol:

[Little Roober]

Lol. 5. nice math man. :lol: And I started watching hockey with my dad well before I could remember it, I'll admit, but we have the whole series from 97 on tape and youtube helps a lot when recollecting the minor details of any other games. I've watched (and payed attention to) a little more hockey than I get credit for. As for the ozzy/Conklin subject, I don't think Conklin is all that good. There it is. Piss and moan about it all you like, that's just my opinion and until he proves to me otherwise, that's how it's gunna be. :)

[neil duffey]

Lol. 5. nice math man. :lol: And I started watching hockey with my dad well before I could remember it, I'll admit, but we have the whole series from 97 on tape and youtube helps a lot when recollecting the minor details of any other games. I've watched (and payed attention to) a little more hockey than I get credit for. As for the ozzy/Conklin subject, I don't think Conklin is all that good. There it is. Piss and moan about it all you like, that's just my opinion and until he proves to me otherwise, that's how it's gunna be. :)

ahh touche young blood touche...

[north-bound]

First of all who gives a flying rip how old a person is to recall anything. Besides that the age thing was brought on by DE82. Part of being a huge fan of the sport is knowing its history. Hell my 8 year old son can name all the wings and thier postion along with the saginaw spirit team. So i think people would be suprised at what kids can and do remember.

Now onto the Conks thing. He is just a back up and thats all he ever will be. He is a good goalie but the fact remains he is beter as a back up. To be honest wether DE82 likes it or not imho thats what Ozzy should be but he is the best the wings have now. Ozzy is a good goalie as well but i think he is beter when coming off the bench.

[DE82]

First of all who gives a flying rip how old a person is to recall anything. Besides that the age thing was brought on by DE82. Part of being a huge fan of the sport is knowing its history. Hell my 8 year old son can name all the wings and thier postion along with the saginaw spirit team. So i think people would be suprised at what kids can and do remember.

Now onto the Conks thing. He is just a back up and thats all he ever will be. He is a good goalie but the fact remains he is beter as a back up. To be honest wether DE82 likes it or not imho thats what Ozzy should be but he is the best the wings have now. Ozzy is a good goalie as well but i think he is beter when coming off the bench.:lol:

[bounty hunter]

First of all who gives a flying rip how old a person is to recall anything. Besides that the age thing was brought on by DE82. Part of being a huge fan of the sport is knowing its history. Hell my 8 year old son can name all the wings and thier postion along with the saginaw spirit team. So i think people would be suprised at what kids can and do remember.

Now onto the Conks thing. He is just a back up and thats all he ever will be. He is a good goalie but the fact remains he is beter as a back up. To be honest wether DE82 likes it or not imho thats what Ozzy should be but he is the best the wings have now. Ozzy is a good goalie as well but i think he is beter when coming off the bench.

I have to agree with de82 because if it wasn't for ozzy there most likely would not be a game 7 imo. He has done far better then I thought he was going to do and should they lose Thursday no one can point a finger at him.

[neil duffey]

First of all who gives a flying rip how old a person is to recall anything. Besides that the age thing was brought on by DE82. Part of being a huge fan of the sport is knowing its history. Hell my 8 year old son can name all the wings and thier postion along with the saginaw spirit team. So i think people would be suprised at what kids can and do remember.

Now onto the Conks thing. He is just a back up and thats all he ever will be. He is a good goalie but the fact remains he is beter as a back up. To be honest wether DE82 likes it or not imho thats what Ozzy should be but he is the best the wings have now. Ozzy is a good goalie as well but i think he is beter when coming off the bench.

i give a flying rip... sir:lol: he cant weigh in on how a goalie played if he wasn't around to watch it day in and day out:lol: just because a kid can name players and positions doesn't mean he can fully understand what the game is about and how to gauge a players caliber. calm down and switch to decalf brother... its not a big deal.:lol:


and id be willing to bet my britches conks is a starter next year else where... and paid pretty damn well to be it as well.

[DE82]

and id be willing to bet my britches conks is a starter next year else where... and paid pretty damn well to be it as well.That's a good point, people forget he's making the league minimum, and look at the numbers he put up, you can talk about this and that but what it comes down to is he had a great reg. season even when the D was having problems. He might not be the playoff winning goalie Osgood is but if the wings win the cup this year he was def. a big part of it, playing in the playoffs or not.

[north-bound]

I have to agree with de82 because if it wasn't for ozzy there most likely would not be a game 7 imo. He has done far better then I thought he was going to do and should they lose Thursday no one can point a finger at him.
I wouldn't go that far but he has been a big part of it. I am with you though. He had me wondering coming into the playoffs but thankfully he has been beter than i thought. As far as pointing a finger at him for a loss "if they do loose" in game 7. I wouldn't blame him. It would be on the teams shoulders.

[LakerIceWolf]

ok here is a rip for you Duffy. I am a player, I was an assistant coaching when I was 16 and head coach by 18. I could judge a player where he fill in the best and help the team. Oh by the way when I was 8 I could tell you if Glen Hanlon or Greg Stefan had a good or bad game from skill level. For an 8 year old boy at this day of age who is able to name of a players, position, then I am willing to bet he is already on the way to know how to play this game is played which is something more I can say for a few peoples.

"Hossa can take care of himself, he's a big boy and after seeing that crap the ducks pulled I think Babs needs Downey and D-Mac in the lineup for game 7...See this is why I couldn't be a hockey player, I'm watching Hossa looking for somebody to hit and I'm thinking go knock Hiller on his ass, you want to get in the ducks head for these dumb little shots after whistles? Go take a run at Hiller and see how they like it."

This is a post from you DE82, why would you think of running Hiller when there backup is who, that's right Jean-Sébastien Giguère the same guy who knocked out the wings 06-07 season. What do you think would happen besides you wanting lower the Wings to their cheap crap tricks. The only thing that scuffle brought is a reason to get back to detroit, flip that switch and shove it back down there throat.

Conks sucks, Osgood great conn smythe, yea we got it you want Osgood. I will say one thing on Conklin. For two seasons now both with the pens and the wings when the starting goalie goes down he came in a stole a lot of games so the TEAM could get that playoff spot. Don't make or break the guy because he has not played in the playoffs because Osgood sat the bench in 97 and in 98 he won it for them.

You two keep on saying that your opinion isn't valid. Your opinion is valid but don't jump down someone for theirs because of age or anything. One more thing "IT'S NOT LIKE FOOTBALL" so quit trying to compare football to hockey.

[DE82]

ok here is a rip for you Duffy. I am a player, I was an assistant coaching when I was 16 and head coach by 18. I could judge a player where he fill in the best and help the team. Oh by the way when I was 8 I could tell you if Glen Hanlon or Greg Stefan had a good or bad game from skill level. For an 8 year old boy at this day of age who is able to name of a players, position, then I am willing to bet he is already on the way to know how to play this game is played which is something more I can say for a few peoples. :gaga:


"Hossa can take care of himself, he's a big boy and after seeing that crap the ducks pulled I think Babs needs Downey and D-Mac in the lineup for game 7...See this is why I couldn't be a hockey player, I'm watching Hossa looking for somebody to hit and I'm thinking go knock Hiller on his ass, you want to get in the ducks head for these dumb little shots after whistles? Go take a run at Hiller and see how they like it."

This is a post from you DE82, why would you think of running Hiller when there backup is who, that's right Jean-Sébastien Giguère the same guy who knocked out the wings 06-07 season. What do you think would happen besides you wanting lower the Wings to their cheap crap tricks. The only thing that scuffle brought is a reason to get back to detroit, flip that switch and shove it back down there throat.First of all, Jiggy is DONE, if he wasn't he would be playing right now, you don't just sit a guy who has been gold in the playoffs for a no-name player if the guy isn't done. Second, what would happen is Hiller would get knocked on his ass and the ducks would see how they like it when a player who is doing nothing gets put on the ice. It's called sending a message, something that gets done often, it's called "You run at our star players, we run at yours" Do I care if you agree with my opinion? NO! Do I think Babs will put a hit on Hiller? No...would I? You bet your bottom dollar.

Conks sucks, Osgood great conn smythe, yea we got it you want Osgood. I will say one thing on Conklin. For two seasons now both with the pens and the wings when the starting goalie goes down he came in a stole a lot of games so the TEAM could get that playoff spot. Don't make or break the guy because he has not played in the playoffs because Osgood sat the bench in 97 and in 98 he won it for them.No, you really don't get it because NO WHERE have I said Conklin sucks, in fact if you do a little looking around(novel idea right?) You will find me sticking up for Conklin. NO WHERE have I said Osgood should win the Conn Smythe, but hey facts don't matter right? Lets just make crap up to argue :rolleyes:

You two keep on saying that your opinion isn't valid. Your opinion is valid but don't jump down someone for theirs because of age or anything. One more thing "IT'S NOT LIKE FOOTBALL" so quit trying to compare football to hockey.Nobody is jumping down anybodys throat, calm down or sit down buddy. Second, Yes, it's very much like football, it's a physical game with a lot of chippy shots, you don't have to like it but it's how it is

[neil duffey]

oh de, let the new guy puff up his chest...:rolleyes::lol: i take nothing from his post any way... im not buying a cent of it...:gaga: i just sent him his award in th mail :D he cant even read the proper spelling of duff E y... let alone make seance of what he was trying to belittle me about... lol.

[north-bound]

i give a flying rip... sir:lol: he cant weigh in on how a goalie played if he wasn't around to watch it day in and day out:lol: just because a kid can name players and positions doesn't mean he can fully understand what the game is about and how to gauge a players caliber. calm down and switch to decalf brother... its not a big deal.:lol:


and id be willing to bet my britches conks is a starter next year else where... and paid pretty damn well to be it as well.

First of all what is decalf? Are you trying to be funny or something or did you miss spell it? Second of all no need to worry about my calmness...i really didn't think of it as a big deal. Just makeing a point about ages and sports.Along with what kids can and are capable of when it comes to a sport they love.

Now as far as gauageing players. Would that kinda be like your master gauage job on Stewart;)? Or the constant he played like crap get rid of him theroy others have?

Now as far as Conks goes. Who knows what will happen to him. With the way things can go i am not willing to bet my britches i will tell you that. He might get paid more and maybe well deserving or maybe not. Besides all this who really cares where he goes and how much he gets paid. Were in the playoffs and he is our back up as well he should be.

[north-bound]

oh de, let the new guy puff up his chest...:rolleyes::lol: i take nothing from his post any way... im not buying a cent of it...:gaga: i just sent him his award in th mail :D he cant even read the proper spelling of duff E y... let alone make seance of what he was trying to belittle me about... lol.
Ummm...Sir. I wouldn't knock him to hard on his proper spelling if i were you. Mr. Decalf!!

[William H Bonney]

Wow,, I missed all the fun...:lol:

Seriously though,, LakerIce knows his stuff, so does Jiggywhaty...:lol:

[LakerIceWolf]

First I am sorry that I addressed that towrads you. That was suppose to be address to the others. There now that is out of the way, the smilely face sucking a pacifier, cute. I am surprised that you can't come back with anything. Oh could you even recognize tell me those players positions I listed without looking it up???

Jiggy's done. mmmm how can I explain this one to you???? oh he can win on any given sunday. You don't count someone down until they are gone. He won against them before and I am willing to be he can do it again.

Now for DUFF"E"Y don't talk about my spelling when you can't even spell "sense". I am not sending you an award, for you an electric dictionary. That way when you misspell something it will give you the right one.

[DE82]

First of all what is decalf? Are you trying to be funny or something or did you miss spell it? Second of all no need to worry about my calmness...i really didn't think of it as a big deal. Just makeing a point about ages and sports.Along with what kids can and are capable of when it comes to a sport they love.

Now as far as gauageing players. Would that kinda be like your master gauage job on Stewart;)? Or the constant he played like crap get rid of him theroy others have?

Now as far as Conks goes. Who knows what will happen to him. With the way things can go i am not willing to bet my britches i will tell you that. He might get paid more and maybe well deserving or maybe not. Besides all this who really cares where he goes and how much he gets paid. Were in the playoffs and he is our back up as well he should be.

First I am sorry that I addressed that towrads you. That was suppose to be address to the others. There now that is out of the way, the smilely face sucking a pacifier, cute. I am surprised that you can't come back with anything. Oh could you even recognize tell me those players positions I listed without looking it up???

Jiggy's done. mmmm how can I explain this one to you???? oh he can win on any given sunday. You don't count someone down until they are gone. He won against them before and I am willing to be he can do it again.

Now for DUFF"E"Y don't talk about my spelling when you can't even spell "sense". I am not sending you an award, for you an electric dictionary. That way when you misspell something it will give you the right one.
I honestly can't even understand what these guys are trying to say, I'm guessing they are buddies sticking up for one another but with all the grammar mistakes and thoughts every which way I can't understand what is being said....seriously I can't...but I will say this, first his name is Brad Stuart not Stewart, if your going to try and call somebody out and look smart you might want to know the guys name that your referring too first. Second Jiggy is DONE, the ducks tried trading him and nobody would bite and he's riding the pine in the playoffs. End of story.

As far as the rest of what you put up there...all I can say is WOW :dizzy: :16suspect

[radiohead]

This coming from a guy who routinely misspells Kris Draper's name :lol:



you might want to know the guys name that your referring too first.

[DE82]

This coming from a guy who routinely misspells Kris Draper's name :lol:Wrong, try again though, I call him Drapes, if you watched more hockey than just the playoffs(and that's right from your mouth) You'd know his nick name for YEARS has been Drapes :rolleyes: Not to mention I'm not calling somebody out like he is either

[radiohead]

You're right I do watch just the playoffs.
Sometimes. Last year I was out on the river whipping the night they won the cup. Used to be an avid fan and partial season ticket holder for years until they had the lockout. Lost my passion for the game while they were off.

I am not going to go digging through your archives but I am quite certain from memory you have spelled his name 'Drapper' several times.

Wrong, try again though, I call him Drapes, if you watched more hockey than just the playoffs(and that's right from your mouth) You'd know his nick name for YEARS has been Drapes :rolleyes: Not to mention I'm not calling somebody out like he is either

[DE82]

I can now see what fish eater meant when he told me why he stoped posting in the wings forum....

[LakerIceWolf]

I honestly can't even understand what these guys are trying to say, I'm guessing they are buddies sticking up for one another but with all the grammar mistakes and thoughts every which way I can't understand what is being said....seriously I can't...but I will say this, first his name is Brad Stuart not Stewart, if your going to try and call somebody out and look smart you might want to know the guys name that your referring too first. Second Jiggy is DONE, the ducks tried trading him and nobody would bite and he's riding the pine in the playoffs. End of story.

As far as the rest of what you put up there...all I can say is WOW :dizzy: :16suspect

You can't understand, why does that not surprise me. You know what I misspell words and I will be the first to say it. I will say it again " I misspell words ". Remember what I said about jumping down someone. I guess I should have said belittle. That is why I am talking in hockey forum and not a spelling bee. I know my hockey well enough to know that the reason why when they tried to trade Jiggy, no team would bite when he still had 3 years left at 6 mill. That don't make him done just over priced.

[William H Bonney]

I honestly can't even understand what these guys are trying to say, I'm guessing they are buddies sticking up for one another but with all the grammar mistakes and thoughts every which way I can't understand what is being said....seriously I can't...ct

How on earth do you understand any of Neil's post's then??:lol:

[Little Roober]

I honestly can't even understand what these guys are trying to say, I'm guessing they are buddies sticking up for one another but with all the grammar mistakes and thoughts every which way I can't understand what is being said....seriously I can't...

Ironic because it's just like you and DuffEy. :lol:

[neil duffey]

Ironic because it's just like you and DuffEy. :lol:

bryon may be my friend, but im on record callign him out plenty of times thank you.

and as far as the miss-spellings... the point was, it was right there smacking you in the face and you missed it... and also a life time of my name being spelled neal bryan duffy... when ya have a life time of people spelling your name incorrect, ya correct it when its done. so sorry ya got a pissy about it.

since you all seam to want to bitch and bicker in here and pull each others hair all day long... ill do you all a favor and limit my postings. this site is going down hill fast and its sad, i sure hope that the brass takes a good look at the situation round her lately... i usually keep my mouth shut and stay on topic, but lately iv been speaking up and a little pissy my self... i guess that's what happens when 60% of the membership around here spews the same bs over and over, pot stirring and bickering just to bicker... it tends to grow on you, like it did me. ill just stick to posts and replies w/ substance since no one wants to do anything but act like little frickin 2 year olds, and its dragging me into it to... that's not me in real life. so im bowing out before i get dragged in any further.

and yes, any one who knows me knows i suck at spelling. it was in my signature for the last 4 years...

[north-bound]

bryon may be my friend, but im on record callign him out plenty of times thank you.

and as far as the miss-spellings... the point was, it was right there smacking you in the face and you missed it... and also a life time of my name being spelled neal bryan duffy... when ya have a life time of people spelling your name incorrect, ya correct it when its done. so sorry ya got a pissy about it.

since you all seam to want to bitch and bicker in here and pull each others hair all day long... ill do you all a favor and limit my postings. this site is going down hill fast and its sad, i sure hope that the brass takes a good look at the situation round her lately... i usually keep my mouth shut and stay on topic, but lately iv been speaking up and a little pissy my self... i guess that's what happens when 60% of the membership around here spews the same bs over and over, pot stirring and bickering just to bicker... it tends to grow on you, like it did me. ill just stick to posts and replies w/ substance since no one wants to do anything but act like little frickin 2 year olds, and its dragging me into it to... that's not me in real life. so im bowing out before i get dragged in any further.

and yes, any one who knows me knows i suck at spelling. it was in my signature for the last 4 years...
Don't worry about the spelling god knows i stink at it. Your posts were fine. I enjoyed reading most of them and the ones i didn't i posted about it like Stuart (thats for you DE82;)) and it ended well. Like i said earlier no big deal.

I honestly can't even understand what these guys are trying to say, I'm guessing they are buddies sticking up for one another but with all the grammar mistakes and thoughts every which way I can't understand what is being said....seriously I can't...but I will say this, first his name is Brad Stuart not Stewart, if your going to try and call somebody out and look smart you might want to know the guys name that your referring too first. Second Jiggy is DONE, the ducks tried trading him and nobody would bite and he's riding the pine in the playoffs. End of story.

As far as the rest of what you put up there...all I can say is WOW :dizzy: :16suspect
Now as for you. Whats to understand were cooler than you;) and know more about hockey than you ever will. I will say this though genius. Good catch on the Stuart thing...i had Tony Stewart on the brain. You would get a cookie for that but i wasn't talking to you i was talking to neal in that post. So no cookie for you.

[north-bound]

Jiggy's done. mmmm how can I explain this one to you???? oh he can win on any given sunday. You don't count someone down until they are gone. He won against them before and I am willing to be he can do it again.

.
Forget it. He can't understand you..lmao:lol:

[William H Bonney]

bryon may be my friend, but im on record callign him out plenty of times thank you.

and as far as the miss-spellings... the point was, it was right there smacking you in the face and you missed it... and also a life time of my name being spelled neal bryan duffy... when ya have a life time of people spelling your name incorrect, ya correct it when its done. so sorry ya got a pissy about it.

since you all seam to want to bitch and bicker in here and pull each others hair all day long... ill do you all a favor and limit my postings. this site is going down hill fast and its sad, i sure hope that the brass takes a good look at the situation round her lately... i usually keep my mouth shut and stay on topic, but lately iv been speaking up and a little pissy my self... i guess that's what happens when 60% of the membership around here spews the same bs over and over, pot stirring and bickering just to bicker... it tends to grow on you, like it did me. ill just stick to posts and replies w/ substance since no one wants to do anything but act like little frickin 2 year olds, and its dragging me into it to... that's not me in real life. so im bowing out before i get dragged in any further.

and yes, any one who knows me knows i suck at spelling. it was in my signature for the last 4 years...

Awww come on Neil,,,, mature, civil "discussions" are boring....:lol:

Bitching, moaning and name calling is all part of a healthy arguement... :evil:

It all ends up as water under the bridge in a couple days anyway...:)

[augustus0603]

I know more about hockey than any of you. (Giant Raspberry)

[radiohead]

Oh yeah....well my Dad can beat up your Dad.

I know more about hockey than any of you. (Giant Raspberry)

[U of M Fan]

I know more about hockey than any of you. (Giant Raspberry)
Thats impossible your not old enough!!!:lol:

Is this the Red Wings forum or The View????:lol:

[Michihunter]

Oh yeah....well my Dad can beat up your Dad.Oh yeah? Well my MOM can beat up your Dad!!:lol::lol:

[radiohead]

Winner !

Oh yeah? Well my MOM can beat up your Dad!!:lol::lol:

[Michihunter]

Winner !And that Ladies and Gentleman proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that I know the most about Hockey!!;)

[snappersnatcher]

an theres still turmoil,LOL by the wayI think those AHs last night that started the fights AFTER the whistle should have penalties an should be accessed for the start of tonights game,when there are no penalties for crap like that the other teams can beat the hell out of the opposing players an suffer no consequences,makes no sense to me that they can get by with that cheap *****,I hope it wakes up a couple "star" players because until now #81 an #13 have not looked like superstars,ok boys let me have it:lol::D:fish:

[zx10r2004]

an theres still turmoil,LOL by the wayI think those AHs last night that started the fights AFTER the whistle should have penalties an should be accessed for the start of tonights game,when there are no penalties for crap like that the other teams can beat the hell out of the opposing players an suffer no consequences,makes no sense to me that they can get by with that cheap *****,I hope it wakes up a couple "star" players because until now #81 an #13 have not looked like superstars,ok boys let me have it:lol::D:fish::lol: this is why they shouldnt ban fighting in hockey.In the probert and kocur days those guys would have paid for what they have done. these days the nhl wants to get rid of fighting so your going have more high sticking, elbows, and cheap hits because all the cheap shots will go unpunished.WE NEED TO BRING BACK FIGHTING TO GET RID OF THIS CRAP.:D

[adam bomb]

Hopefully itll bring those guys to life. Homer, Dats and Hos need to get on the board...Tonights as good a night as any to start. Just like in Washington, Ovechkin cant do it all...Neither can Franzen here in Detroit....Someone other than he and Z gotta put some pucks in the net!!! Granted they have a great defense, but we have way too many weapons to be in this many close games....If we bring our A game we will prevail....That is if officiating doesnt dictate the outcome!:rolleyes:

[north-bound]

:lol: this is why they shouldnt ban fighting in hockey.In the probert and kocur days those guys would have paid for what they have done. these days the nhl wants to get rid of fighting so your going have more high sticking, elbows, and cheap hits because all the cheap shots will go unpunished.WE NEED TO BRING BACK FIGHTING TO GET RID OF THIS CRAP.:D
:yeahthat:

[neil duffey]

Oh yeah....well my Dad can beat up your Dad.
yeah well my dads a cop:D hed shoot your dad...:D:lol:

[Ieatantlers]

I kind of wondered how these threads took off to 7 pages each. I mean, I have had arguments about wings in the past, but they are ABOUT THE WINGS. Bickering over spelling, and who knows the most about hockey, thats laughable. Glad that we now have a professional in the forum (LakerIceWolf). Sadly for you though Laker, I could see how sweet Steve Yzerman was as soon as I popped out of the womb (with a hockey stick in hand I might add). My first word was Yzerman, and I was only 3 weeks old. I scored my first hat trick when I was 9 months old. Broke my first puck in half from a slapper at 2 years old. Went to the NHL at 6, and retired early at 16. Now I've already coached 2 different teams to Stanley Cups. What now Wolf? Don't you realize anyone can say anything to glorify themselves on the internet?

[William H Bonney]

Hopefully itll bring those guys to life. Homer, Dats and Hos need to get on the board...Tonights as good a night as any to start. Just like in Washington, Ovechkin cant do it all...Neither can Franzen here in Detroit....Someone other than he and Z gotta put some pucks in the net!!! Granted they have a great defense, but we have way too many weapons to be in this many close games....If we bring our A game we will prevail....That is if officiating doesnt dictate the outcome!:rolleyes:

:) I glad someone besides me brought up the Houdini Act. I've been biting my tongue on this all series. In a series like this,, the stars have to be "stars", i.e, Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin. .... :hide:

[adam bomb]

No sense in hiding William...Its the truth. You best players have to be your best players and that includes putting points on the board when it counts the most. Its not that they havent been doing good things on the ice to contribute, but there comes a time when they need to get on the score sheet too. I have a feeling if they were able to find the back of the net with more regularity this series woulda had an entirely differnt look to it...Like a victory in 5 games, 6 tops. I dont care what anyone says, when those guys are are firing on all cylinders theyre just about unstopable. Would like to see that confidence and swagger back in our play tonight.

I know everyone hates Crosby, but ya know what, the guy can play and last night he stepped up and put his money where his mouth is scoring two goals in a decisive game 7. And the first one came 2 minutes in...Thats what we need from our top guys tonight. I still think if Datsyuk can get on the board that votes well for the Wings. I think he'll go on a tear if he can just get that first one.

[Jigawhat]

I can now see what fish eater meant when he told me why he stoped posting in the wings forum....

Do us all the favor. I beg.
I can say with utmost confidence - that if you stopped posting in the wings forum, 95% (if not more) of these childish arguments (that I am no doubt guilty of taking part in) would cease to exist.

Here, let me save you a post.

:gaga: