looking to re-spool

[whitmo28]

Got a new rod/reel for christmas and need to spool it up...had not done a lot of research into this area for a long time but have read up on it a lot in the last day or two. This rod/reel is going to be primarily for pan fish but have caught my fair share of bass and pike while trolling for crappie so that is something else to keep in mind. I have a little larger rod/reel that I am going to respool as well and I plan to make that my bass/pike set up.

With that being said the new craze seems to be braided line and braided line seems to have a pound test rating and then it tells what diameter flourocarbon it compares to. I believe the power pro I looked at today was 8 pound test but it was the same diameter as a 4 pound flouro. What are the disadvantages of braided line? If they are so much stronger yet thinner than flouro and mono than why isn't everyone using them for everything.

With money not part of the equation what is the best type and pound line for panfish. And also for bass/pike. I just don't see any negatives to braided lines especially since I am mostly 95% of the time fishing lakes so snags are not an issue.

Any help would be appreciated. My new reel says that it holds 100 yards of 6# test so does that mean it would also hold 100 yards of 10-15# braided line since braided seems to be thinner?

:) thanks

[redear]

if i were to use braid for pan fish i would definatly tie on a floro leader. the only negative of braid would be for pike or bass fishing with certain lures because you cant get the right action because the line has no stretch. another negative would be the price

[DE82]

I do A LOT of panfish and trout and my line of choice has always been Maxima ultra green 4lb since I tried it. I've yet to break a fish off, I have had bite offs from pike but you will have that no matter what mono/flouro you use.

I use 8lb power pro for my walleye fishing and I like it a lot, good feel, nice line but I would use a leader -Bryon

[basskiller46]

Ten pound would be plenty for panfish. I use 4 lb braid in the winter
and have pulled out 5lb walleye with it no problem. Trust me ten pound braid is almost unbreakable.

[waterfoul]

Braid for panfish would be way overkill and line shy panfish will ignore it without a leader. I'd be using mono for the panfish rod.

[whitmo28]

So it sounds like braided for panfish is a little much...is the general opinion (not that we get that on this site:D) is a 4# for pan fish?

Now for my bass/pike reel would 10# braided be sufficient? What type of leader would be recommended? I don't completely understand leaders...please correct me if im wrong but braided line is used because of its strength but if I put a leader on it wouldn't I lose the advantage of the braided line because now I would lose strength? When you put a leader on do you use a barrel swivel?

Again I appreciate the feedback...im learing...just a little slow:lol:

[DE82]

So it sounds like braided for panfish is a little much...is the general opinion (not that we get that on this site:D) is a 4# for pan fish?

Now for my bass/pike reel would 10# braided be sufficient? What type of leader would be recommended? I don't completely understand leaders...please correct me if im wrong but braided line is used because of its strength but if I put a leader on it wouldn't I lose the advantage of the braided line because now I would lose strength? When you put a leader on do you use a barrel swivel?

Again I appreciate the feedback...im learing...just a little slow:lol:We all start somewhere :)

I use 4lb for panfish, then again I use 4lb for walleye at times too, and bass and people think I'm crazy(really take a poll) :lol: I always say use the lightest line you are comfortable with, for me, I'm not scared of a 10lb fish on 4lb line.

Now as far as braid goes, you use braid for sensitivity, feel and strength, it does take some getting used to...using a leader will not hurt in my experience. I run 8lb power pro for walleye, tie a swivel then tie 2ft. of either 6lb mono or flouro then tie a snap for my crank or jig

[bassdisaster]

So it sounds like braided for panfish is a little much...is the general opinion (not that we get that on this site:D) is a 4# for pan fish?

Now for my bass/pike reel would 10# braided be sufficient? What type of leader would be recommended? I don't completely understand leaders...please correct me if im wrong but braided line is used because of its strength but if I put a leader on it wouldn't I lose the advantage of the braided line because now I would lose strength? When you put a leader on do you use a barrel swivel?

Again I appreciate the feedback...im learing...just a little slow:lol:

Braided lines are exactly what everyone else said! there are 3 basic reason's, 1st is strength to dia. ratio, lack of apparent strech and castability, all allowing for higher capicity on smaller reel's! add in the increase in sensitivity its a win/win!
But the leader has several reason's for use, the most obvious would be the invisability of it but the 2nd most important reason for a leader is the strech it provides, ya know! a little shock absorbtion!
But leaders are usually not long, tho I do run a long leader like 8+ feet often, a leader is a short section of line and therefor will have an realitively short amount of strech, mainly because flouro lines are already streach resistant
Most of us use a uni to uni knot to tie braid to leader, theres other knots, none are as easy or reliable!
Hope that helped!


BD

[sfw1960]

Braid for panfish would be way overkill and line shy panfish will ignore it without a leader. I'd be using mono for the panfish rod.

Hey "Mr. I don't panfish , really" ...
You shouldn't have an opinion on this - since you know nada about panfishin' now should you???

:lol: :lol:
hehehehee...............

I DO use braid on panfish - usually 8LB or less and I run a mono - or flouro leader.... as light as they bite at times , it's a good idea to use it.
Power Pro or other regular braids can be troublesome with wind knots though...
Fireline casts and handles on spinning gear MUCH better ...
BTW they make Fireline in 1LB test and I know a lot of guys that don't use leaders with it........
Not that I know anything about panfish....LMAO.....
:evilsmile

[waterfoul]

Hey "Mr. I don't panfish , really" ...
You shouldn't have an opinion on this - since you know nada about panfishin' now should you???

:lol: :lol:
hehehehee...............


:evilsmile

Hey... I just figure panfish don't warrant the fine fishing line that braid is!! :fish2: :fish2: :lol:

[sfw1960]

Hey... I just figure panfish don't warrant the fine fishing line that braid is!! :fish2: :fish2: :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

GOOD Answer !!!!

[Flash]

With money not part of the equation what is the best type and pound line for panfish. And also for bass/pike. I just don't see any negatives to braided lines especially since I am mostly 95% of the time fishing lakes so snags are not an issue.

Any help would be appreciated. My new reel says that it holds 100 yards of 6# test so does that mean it would also hold 100 yards of 10-15# braided line since braided seems to be thinner?

:) thanks

As always, the above reads consistent with advice I've recieved as well. This year I have a dedicated panfish 6'6" graphite micro-lite spinning rod/reel with 2# clear mono and a gold #6 long shank worm hook for worms, maggots, etc. My other "Light" set up is a 6' BPS Johnny Morris Signature 85million modulus spinning rod with 15# powerpro for small (1/8 oz) inline spinners (rooster tails /mepps) and small marabou jigs. I was going to use 10# powerpro (2# dia) but had some 15# left over. I may take SWF's advice and pick up some 10# Fireline or Spyderwire for the roostertails and jigs instead of the 15#. 4# mono is pretty much the standard for panfishing. Some use 2 or 3# and some use 6# but generally 4# is the most common. One advantage of braid with a mono leader is the sensitivity for lite bites. For instance 10# braid with a two-three foot 2# mono leader (using a uni to uni knot) would give you supreme detection for those nibblers that are trying to steal your worm. This year I hope to try a Fly rod / spinning reel combination on panfish.

I am running 6# mono on my drop shot set up and 15# powerpro on a set up for senkos/tubes and other plastics. My baitcaster is spooled with 17# mono for buzz baits/Spinners/and cranks with 30# powerpro on my pike/bass spinning rig used for throwing plastic frogs, timberdoodles, jointed Rapalas, rattlin raps, countdowns, deep divers, spoons, etc up to 3/4 oz. For the really big stuff (over 1 oz.) I have a 7'er spooled with 50# sinking braid and a 30# wire leader.

[whitmo28]

As always, the above reads consistent with advice I've recieved as well. This year I have a dedicated panfish 6'6" graphite micro-lite spinning rod/reel with 2# clear mono and a gold #6 long shank worm hook for worms, maggots, etc. My other "Light" set up is a 6' BPS Johnny Morris Signature 85million modulus spinning rod with 15# powerpro for small (1/8 oz) inline spinners (rooster tails /mepps) and small marabou jigs. I was going to use 10# powerpro (2# dia) but had some 15# left over. 4# mono is pretty much the standard for panfishing. Some use 2 or 3# and some use 6# but generally 4# is the most common. One advantage of braid with a mono leader is the sensitivity for lite bites. For instance 10# braid with a two-three foot 2# mono leader (using a uni to uni knot) would give you supreme detection for those nibblers that are trying to steal your worm. This year I hope to try a Fly rod / spinning reel combination on panfish.




I am running 6# mono on my drop shot set up and 15# powerpro on a set up for senkos/tubes and other plastics. My baitcaster is spooled with 17# mono for buzz baits/Spinners/and cranks with 30# powerpro on my pike/bass spinning rig used for throwing plastic frogs, timberdoodles, jointed Rapalas, rattlin raps, countdowns, deep divers, etc.



Seems like this advice suggests I get more reels! :D

I will probably go with a 4 pound mono for panfish.

If I go with a 10# power pro line what pound leader would you put on it? This would be mainly trolling for pike with spinners and Rapalas.

Thanks for all the advice and please keep it coming

[DE82]

I wouldn't be using 10lb power pro trolling for pike and I would NEVER use a mono leader if I'm trageting pike, simply no mono can take on a pike's teeth

[Flash]

Seems like this advice suggests I get more reels! :D

I will probably go with a 4 pound mono for panfish.

If I go with a 10# power pro line what pound leader would you put on it? This would be mainly trolling for pike with spinners and Rapalas.

Thanks for all the advice and please keep it coming

Trolling for tooth critters requires (in my opinion) some kind of a wire leader. These can be as thin as the 12-20# "In-vis-a-leader" to as thick as 75# coated wire leaders for trophy Musky with spinning blades etc.

If you are like me and catch mostly hammer handles (small pike) but want to be prepared for that really grand catch - should it happen, then 20-30# braid mated with a 15-20# In-vis-a-leader will handle anything I am likely to catch. I have seen some really big pike (25-30 pounds) caught on ultra light spinning gear with 30# braid and 6-8" 20# Invisaleaders. FWIW.