Stupid question but just to be safe!

[fur and feathers jr.]

Can you fish for a fish thats out of season? Like catch and release? :confused:

Just figured I would ask to be safe!

[basskiller46]

Only on accident ;)

If you get caught they will consider it poaching.

I dont know what they would say to a kid i have never seen or had this happen. But they dont go easy on adults from what i have seen.

[fur and feathers jr.]

just figured best be safe than sorry!!!! :)

[basskiller46]

Exactly i would rather just wait until april 26.

[MSUICEMAN]

no, you cannot legally target a species out of season.... end of story. no *wink wink* or any of that funny business.

[adam bomb]

This is one of those rules that i think is stupid. Paints a bad pic of us all, like we cant go out and enjoy fishing without keeping them. Would love to have a chance to catch fish, even if i cant keep them....For gods sake there are good people in the world.

[sea nympho]

John E. Law says NO...now he can't produce one good reason for the reg...but he'll give you the ticket anyway. :evilsmile

I think for the MDNR policy-making big wigs, changing a reg is like admitting they've been wrong...and that appears to be too hard to do at any other than a snail's pace.

[RJSwirlz]

John E. Law says NO...now he can't produce one good reason for the reg...but he'll give you the ticket anyway. :evilsmile

Uh oh, it looks like the Nymph is coming out of his shell again!

[sea nympho]

Uh oh, it looks like the Nymph is coming out of his shell again!

NO WAY..that's all I'm gonna say.:D

The automatons can rally around the scientifically unsound status quo till the 26th for all I care.. :lol:

[MSUICEMAN]

This is one of those rules that i think is stupid. Paints a bad pic of us all, like we cant go out and enjoy fishing without keeping them. Would love to have a chance to catch fish, even if i cant keep them....For gods sake there are good people in the world.

I don't think it necessarily does... i think it makes it easier to catch the few bad apples though.

with some people on this board viewpoints of the law, i'm pretty glad we have it that way. there isn't a real scientific reason why I shouldn't be able to use electro-shock to take fish either... but I don't want it legal at the same time.

[sea nympho]

Lmao


WHY exactly are you glad? That makes no sense.

What EXACTLY are those "BAD APPLES" up to? I haven't seen any personally. Only time in my life I've witnessed any 'poaching' ins when whitefishing in Muskegon off the wall in NOV. Sad to say I've NEVER seen MDNR punish ANY of the dozens of choads I've seen do it....EVEN THOUGH I feel constantly watched when I'm out there legit, so much that I won't even keep a legit-hooked fish if it had ANY wounds whatsoever...and that's not 'necessarily' fair to the masses that obey every law no matter how STUPID it is.

Are you saying people who disagree w/ this law or that one are automatically PREDISPOSED to breaking it?...Should we unleash big brother on 'em?

Can NO ONE disagree w/ laws OUT LOUD anymore? ... w/out being accused of a being a 'rebel' or 'violator' or harboring ill-will to all thing decent?

I feel like an American stuck in British-occupied Philadelphia during the revolution watching the loyalists party w/ the redcoats! hahahaha!

[basskiller46]

I dont even know why there is a special season for catch and release
i mean you are puting it back therfore not really doing any harm. I can see why there are regulations for keeping fish but why if your just fishing for the fun of it.

What does electro shocking have to do with this subject. If you are keeping fish what difference does it make if they are shocked or hooked because they are getting fried anyway. Besides how many people do you see fishing with electricity.

[Smada962]

I agree with the seasons closing because it protects the fish. It allows them a nice break to spawn unharmed. If you catch a female bass on its bed it allows other fish to slide in and disturb it before it gets released. Also just because a fish is caught and released doesn't mean the fish is going to survive.

[sea nympho]

I agree with the seasons closing because it protects the fish. It allows them a nice break to spawn unharmed. If you catch a female bass on its bed it allows other fish to slide in and disturb it before it gets released. Also just because a fish is caught and released doesn't mean the fish is going to survive.

You're understanding of bass seasons and their timing with the spawn is evidently lacking...most bass in MI ARE spawning AFTER the traditional opening day. :lol:

By your C&R logic, all fishing should cease b/c god forbid a fish gets hurt. :D

THEREFORE, THE CLOSED SEASON DOESN'T ACCOMPLISH IT'S GOAL AND IS WORTHLESS(AND A DISGRACE).

[basskiller46]

THEREFORE, THE CLOSED SEASON DOESN'T ACCOMPLISH IT'S GOAL AND IS WORTHLESS(AND A DISGRACE).

Lets make a petition. Because i am sure that 80% of michigan anglers will sign it. Probably more

[RJSwirlz]

I knew you couldn't hold back for long Sea Nympho......and why should you. The people on this forum that agree with the current c & r bass law have zero "on the water" experience, which is made ever so evident by their ignorant comments. These are the same people that are becoming more and more accustomed to our new socialist government. I heard today that some cities in Michigan can now take money out of your paycheck and/or BANK ACCOUNTS to get money owed for unpaid parking tickets. I'm sure those in favor with the current C & R bass regulations will be praising the local governments for taking funds out of Michigan citizens bank accounts as well. Sure this is a stretch, but not that big of a stretch since we've already had an electroshock comparison.

[sea nympho]

I knew you couldn't hold back for long Sea Nympho......and why should you. The people on this forum that agree with the current c & r bass law have zero "on the water" experience, which is made ever so evident by their ignorant comments. These are the same people that are becoming more and more accustomed to our new socialist government. I heard today that some cities in Michigan can now take money out of your paycheck and/or BANK ACCOUNTS to get money owed for unpaid parking tickets. I'm sure those in favor with the current C & R bass regulations will be praising the local governments for taking funds out of Michigan citizens bank accounts as well. Sure this is a stretch, but not that big of a stretch since we've already had an electroshock comparison.

:lol:

Oh yeah, they'll like that b/c... IT'S OWED MONEY, ya know! :rolleyes:

These days you gotta JUSTIFY your NEED for each LIBERTY in order to secure it, and all along I thought things were supposed to work the OTHER WAY AROUND. :bonk:

[sea nympho]

Lets make a petition. Because i am sure that 80% of michigan anglers will sign it. Probably more

It's more complicated than that...NRC has ultimate authority to use "science" to solely determine regs...which yes, personifies the problem perfectly. :lol:

[waterfoul]

I would personally like to see the current C&R season extended all the way back to Jan. 1st (the first day of the closed season). I have no issue with a C&R season but a totally closed season in no way protects the fish. I can 100% guarantee that there will be fish bedding on April 26th (this years C&R opener). BUT, I will also 100% guarantee that there will be MORE, a LOT MORE fish bedding on May 29th, the opener for Catch and keep. Did I mention that there will be A LOT MORE??? Opening day is smack dab in the middle of prime time bass spawning time. I've been seeing this for 30+ years. And yes, that means I have bass fished before the "old" opening day of Saturday before Mem. Day. Put the cuffs on me, guilty. But I don't keep bass and I don't really know anyone who does so I don't feel guilty about it at all. While I don't target beds all that much (too easy!!) I have caught some of the biggest bass of my life before the opener and I know the mortality rate of those fish or any eggs/fry they may have is being not harmed. There are a ton of studies proving this (why do you think Ohio/Indiana/Illinois don't have closed seasons???).

[MSUICEMAN]

~edited out~

and no, i'm not saying people that don't like the law are predisposed to not follow it... however if someone is condoning breaking it, i'll call a spade a spade.

[sea nympho]

hey sea nympho... the world doesn't revolve around you or bass... i don't see BASS mentioned anywhere by myself (which your reply was directed at) or the original poster. there are some reasoning to closing seasons.... now if all the seasons are done correctly, that is not my call, there is a way of getting things relooked at and changed, and then there are ways to just say eff it, break the law, and think you are above the law.

btw, if you haven't seen a bad apple.... maybe ya just can't see the forest for the trees.

and no, i'm not saying people that don't like the law are predisposed to not follow it... however if someone is condoing breaking it, i'll call a spade a spade.

YOU are just ARGUING w/ ME...you're not addressing the logical counter points offered or producing any evidence the staus quo is necessary.

You stole the words from my mouth...the bass world needn't be bothered by those of you who don't participate enough to give a ****. ;)

I don't say "f it", & I don't think I am "above the law"...you're INSINUATING here that I am & I do. Well dude, I don't so suck on that. You like the staus quo b/c it DOESN'T AFFECT YOU - you like others to be restricted just for your veiwing pleasure and so you have a 'good reason' to call the Rap Line every 5 minutes...we get that.:dizzy:

I never condoned breaking it, (get your facts straight if you are referring to me, don't be passive-aggressive and fail to mention WHO you are refering to and bad-mouthing)....certainly noting beyond tounge and cheeek, satirical humor illuminating the logical flaws.

I know a 'bad apple' when I see it, do you? Or do you just "see bad apples EVERYWHERE you look'!:lol: Like was said earlier, most folks are good and don't need your Big Brother babysitting eyes watching them w/ your finger on the Rap Line cell phone speed dial.

Please allow me the same liberty in spade-calling...you haven't made ONE SINGLE INTELLIGIBLE POINT during ANY of the discussions about this topic so far ... yet here you are, defending what you obviously don't understand aprob don't even really care about. Seeing how there are SO MANY needless laws fitting this status quo mold you seem to prefer, can't you find another one to champion (or do you like them all;)) and let the rest of us accomplish something here? B/c everytime you open up & spew, another person's gonna see the ignorance of this regulation...sooner or later MDNR will catch up to our neihbors'.

[MSUICEMAN]

maybe you missed the part about getting the seasons relooked. whatever man, you are obviously wound tight about your precious bass. frankly, i dont' care if bass season is open, for at least C&R 12 mos, as long as science backs that up.

jesus christ, i'm sick and tired about hearing you b*tch about it. do something to change it or quit b*tching.

you tell me you see people snagging whitefish, then say you haven't seen any bad apples.... wow man... maybe i need to define what bad apples means. you want to talk about intelligible, you contradict yourself in your own circular argument pity party you've been having for years.

[BKilla_13]

Ok havent been on in a while, I forgot just how touchy this place was (glad to be back). So going back to the OP, is it okay to just take a boat out on a lake and just cast with any old lure or is that targeting? Is there any fish you could legaly be fishing for that is of enough size to be casting say a bigger stick bait or something? I will have some free time on Sat. and was thinking about putting the boat on the water and casting for a few hours (spring fever), but will not if I could get in trouble. I catch and release anyway so let me know.

[MSUICEMAN]

you called everyone that disagreed with you about the law "uninformed tools" and we proved you incorrect....

then, i will just quote one of your posts for earlier:

The rules state that they apply to ALL lakes, public & private. I live on a private lake that we pay to stock & it sux, but it's not like MDNR is ever gonna check you on your private lake anyway, and they know that.

The rule is stated that way so one cannot be transporting illegal fish and use the "Oh, I caught 'em from a buddy's private lake down the road" excuse.

I've fished for "rock" bass & "chain" pickerel, as soon as the ice melts EVERY YEAR for 20 years. I prefer to fish big spinnerbaits and large, obnoxious cranks.

I'm STRICTLY trophy "rock" bass hunting and only looking for a world record.

Since incidental catches cannot be controlled, any & all bass, pike, & walleye contacted get released immediately (after photo).

Other species to list as 'target species' when asked by The Man might include: flatheads, channels, redhorse, carp, green sunfish, gobies, zebras, barracuda, tarpon, etc...

"F" CLOSED SEASONS!

Closing the harvest of a species...OK.

But closing ALL contact? ...absurd & unenforceable.


seems like your stance on BREAKING THE LAW is pretty straight forward.

[basskiller46]

you called everyone that disagreed with you about the law "uninformed tools" and we proved you incorrect....

then, i will just quote one of your posts for earlier:


seems like your stance on BREAKING THE LAW is pretty straight forward.

Dont tell me you have never targeted a fish out season.
Mr i follow the law, The law is scientifically proven.

Can you honestly say that you have never targeted a fish out of season???

I know almost everyone has done this. Im sure dnr have done this while they are off duty. Dont pretend to be super cop

Im guessing your not a c&r fisherman. Just because you cant get your fish doesnt mean we shouldnt be able to fish for the fun of the sport.

[MSUICEMAN]

yes, i can honestly say i've never targeted a fish out of season. have i caught fish that were out of season? yes, i'm sure we all have. and they all have been promptly returned to the water.

edit: its not that i haven't been tempted (many times walleye are in THICK right before season spawning where I steelie fish, but nearly disappear once season is opened. makes it a long day when the steel either aren't there or not active). but i would just assume to follow the law, i'm not in dire need of the fish, and my ego isn't too hurt with having an 0-fer from time to time.

[basskiller46]

yes, i can honestly say i've never targeted a fish out of season. have i caught fish that were out of season? yes, i'm sure we all have. and they all have been promptly returned to the water.

Why did you fish if you knew you could accidently catch a fish that was out of season? Didnt you just argue about it?

[sea nympho]

you called everyone that disagreed with you about the law "uninformed tools" and we proved you incorrect....

then, i will just quote one of your posts for earlier:


seems like your stance on BREAKING THE LAW is pretty straight forward.

I STILL don't see one instance where I've been "circular" or you've "proved me wrong" on ANYTHING :confused:

Whatever man, like I said, 'satirical humor used to illustrate the stupidity of the reg and the reg makers"....I could care less if you have the ability to decipher tertiary, satirical humor....most of us can. I'm not a law breaker and if you're on the www calling me one when you don't know me, I'll invite you to continue showcasing your general malice & ignorance of all things RELAVENT to this discussion.

Most place in the freedom-loving USA, fisherman are granted the latitude to chose for themselves which lures are appropriate for whatever species (if any in particular) targeted. I've caught MANY perch & crappies, even catfish on big, obnoxious spinnerbaits and the like, fishing here in MI and elsewhere, which went directly to making my point...now you come along thinking you're so cool twisting and contorting what I've said like a 6th grader...well...I just spelled it all out so whatcha gonna say now?

I said..."The ONLY bad apples I've seen were when whitefishing"...NOT "I haven't EVER seen any bad apples". At least get it straight if you're gonna use my own words against me, it's right there in B&W.:dizzy::lol:

You sure like to spend your time twisting what I've said in a pitiful effort to waste enough time evading the points of contention that MAYBE no one will notice you have NO CLUE what you're talking about....

YOU'RE THE ONE BITCHING HERE! :chicken:
Whaagh!!:gaga: People feel differently than you...deal w/ it!

You would rather a few innocents get busted so EVERY "bad apple" gets caught....that's the OPPOSITE mentality that formed this nation.

I HAVE BEEN doing something to change it for years now...again get your facts right...I've contacted legislature...MDNR...I've posted that all here...you know what...not only did they(MDNR) act like they didn't care, they refused present any reasons for the reg.

[motownfisher]

What if I decide I want to keep 6 walleye? Or go snag at Tippy Dam in the fall with the rest of the dirtbags?

How is that any different than targeting out of season fish during the closed season?

[MSUICEMAN]

Why did you fish if you knew you could accidently catch a fish that was out of season? Didnt you just argue about it?

no, we didn't argue about that at all. i was not targeting a fish out of season at all. i was targeting steel with flies and spawn. i have NEVER said you can't fish where other fish are, you just can't target them.

if you truly aren't fishing for something out of season but get one that is out of season..... just throw it back and I have no problem with you (neither does the law). but if your intent is to catch something out of season, you broke the law and if they decide to ticket/fine/arrest ya.... well, too bad.

[basskiller46]

What if I decide I want to keep 6 walleye? Or go snag at Tippy Dam in the fall with the rest of the dirtbags?

How is that any different than targeting out of season fish during the closed season?

Um first of all your not snagging anything. Second of all your not keeping anything your letting it go back. What is the difference if you throw a fish back in the spring or you throw a fish back in the summer. Please answer that

[motownfisher]

Um first of all your not snagging anything. Second of all your not keeping anything your letting it go back. What is the difference if you throw a fish back in the spring or you throw a fish back in the summer. Please answer that

Well they are both against the law....

Why is the magic number of 6 walleye the number where unethical behavior begins? Because of the law?

If you are throwing the fish back in the spring and summer, do you think it is unethical to harvest fish?

If it is ethical to harvest some fish at some point in the year, when is it ok and when is it wrong?

[basskiller46]

no, we didn't argue about that at all. i was not targeting a fish out of season at all. i was targeting steel with flies and spawn. i have NEVER said you can't fish where other fish are, you just can't target them.

if you truly aren't fishing for something out of season but get one that is out of season..... just throw it back and I have no problem with you (neither does the law). but if your intent is to catch something out of season, you broke the law and if they decide to ticket/fine/arrest ya.... well, too bad.

Well you have no proof of what someone was targeting with a certain lure.
Ive caught panfish and pike on almost everything ive used for bass.
So you really cant prove anything so why do you care.

[waterfoul]

So, who here drives 70 on the freeway? 35 mph in a 35 mph zone? Same difference. No big deal to any of us I'm sure.

I don't agree with the closed season, and I don't abuse it actually. But I have been known to bass fish before the opener (when it was the end of May). With the new C&R season I usually don't have my boat ready in time to get out before it starts anyway. But, I just don't agree with a closed season to "protect" the fish. It has been proven by every state around us, and on Hardy Pond, Lake St. Clair, and the "beloved" Kent Lake that fishing during the spawn does not in any way, shape, or form effect the bass population. Therefore, by the states own admission a closed season makes no sense. Simple as that. In fact, I think the State of Michigan is losing tourism dollars because of it. Think about it... bass fishing is actually pretty good as soon as the ice is gone but many, MANY people head south of the border to fish Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois instead. Lost gas money, lost money at restaurants, bait shops, hotels, motels, etc... I'll bet the state loses millions of dollars every year because of the closed season on bass, pike, and walleye. Heck, I myself go to the Maumee every spring simply to fish, I don't even keep the fish most years. And I spend some decent coin while I'm there.

Agree with the reg or not... you HAVE to see the science the state is ignoring AND the money they are losing.

[MSUICEMAN]

Um first of all your not snagging anything. Second of all your not keeping anything your letting it go back. What is the difference if you throw a fish back in the spring or you throw a fish back in the summer. Please answer that

now, if there is no scientific basis for having the seasons the way they are, by all means change it to something that does make sense. but until then, follow the law. thats all my argument is.

i hate our tax law and think most of it is a crock o' crap, but i can't just decide not to pay (well, i guess i could but i'd suffer the consequences)

before the C&R seasons and all that stuff i can't tell you how many folks I saw on LSC fishing with pumpkinseed tubes and some spinnerbaits..... let me guess, they were perch fishing :dizzy: that pissed me off.

[basskiller46]

Well they are both against the law....

Why is the magic number of 6 walleye the number where unethical behavior begins? Because of the law?

If you are throwing the fish back in the spring and summer, do you think it is unethical to harvest fish?

If it is ethical to harvest some fish at some point in the year, when is it ok and when is it wrong?

We know its the law big thank you for clarifying that. We are talking about why the law doesnt make sense. Answer the question without using the law
as an answer( This is also the dnr answer "its the law") But nothing to back it up.

Its unethical to harvest when they are spawning which is when the season opens to harvesting. Making the law pretty stupid

[basskiller46]

before the C&R seasons and all that stuff i can't tell you how many folks I saw on LSC fishing with pumpkinseed tubes and some spinnerbaits..... let me guess, they were perch fishing :dizzy: that pissed me off.

Well you just wasted your time getting pissed off. Because it sounds like the dnr didnt give 2 shits about those people. Who cares about what other people do its there choice just move on.

Waterfoul brought up a really good point. Part of are state goverments desicions are why we are screwed right now. They waste money and time on the wrong thing when they could be making it like the other states.

[motownfisher]

We know its the law big thank you for clarifying that. We are talking about why the law doesnt make sense. Answer the question without using the law
as an answer( This is also the dnr answer "its the law") But nothing to back it up.

Its unethical to harvest when they are spawning which is when the season opens to harvesting. Making the law pretty stupid

You are welcome for clarifying things for you. I could see we needed to slow things down for you.

Now one of your little buddies posted on here a guarantee that there would be more bass bedding on May 29th...Are you saying anyone who keeps a bass then is unethical?

Are those guys that are perch fishing right now unethical?

What about the guys that are harvesting walleye on the Bay that are either reef spawners or haven't moved into the river yet?

That is what you seem to be saying, that a bunch of guys on here are unethical, but you seem to be the one urging people to break the law.

[sea nympho]

no, we didn't argue about that at all. i was not targeting a fish out of season at all. i was targeting steel with flies and spawn. i have NEVER said you can't fish where other fish are, you just can't target them.

if you truly aren't fishing for something out of season but get one that is out of season..... just throw it back and I have no problem with you (neither does the law). but if your intent is to catch something out of season, you broke the law and if they decide to ticket/fine/arrest ya.... well, too bad.

OK, maybe we can get somewhere...I'm not trying to be a dick...but I do believe I'm right...and I haven't ever been out TARGETING out of season fish any more than you said you have. So for you to accuse me is obviously going to provoke me to defend myself....nothing more than that, nothing personal.


Do fisherman have the right to pick what lure they see fit for whatever species?
Should there be an "approved lure list" PER species?
How exactly does a C.O. DISTINGUISH between someone targeting out of season fish and someone legit in a fair, objective and impartial manner w/out a lure list or w/out seeing the person kill said fish?
And if the reg doesn't do what it's supposed to, WHY is all this mess even worth it?...to any party involved? :confused:

The crux is in the definitive point for law enforcement ACTION to be taken...but not the point at which the officer BELIEVES someone is trying to commit a violation(like now)...but when the person ACTUALLY DOES commit that violation as in walking away w/ the fish, clubbing it, etc...

Wouldn't law enforcement personnel PREFER the law to be written more clearly so they're job is easier and their use of discretion limited?

[basskiller46]

Most people release the spawning fish. Many people that duck hunt try not to shoot the hens.

Are you saying taking a reproducing fish is ethical? Your just making it harder
for yourself. Less spawning fish means less fish later on. Do you need me to repeat that so you can get it through your head. You know a little slower i dont want you to get confused on such a hard concept.

Its common sense fish wont magicaly make babies

[motownfisher]

Most people release the spawning fish. Many people that duck hunt try not to shoot the hens.

Are you saying taking a reproducing fish is ethical? Your just making it harder
for yourself. Less spawning fish means less fish later on. Do you need me to repeat that so you can get it through your head. You know a little slower i dont want you to get confused on such a hard concept.

Taking reproducing fish is ethical in my opinion. Almost every perch caught in the rivers and cuts now are reproducing fish. You are saying that is unethical?

What about last ice on Saginaw Bay in shallow water? Those fish are heading in to spawn...unethical to harvest them?

If so, then according to your logic all those fisherman getting those perch and walleye lawfully are unethical, yet the group of pre-season poachers posting on this topic are ethical. :rolleyes:

[sea nympho]

but until then, follow the law. thats all my argument is.

I follow the law, but you insinuated I don't, that's the real problem I had. I've been trying to change is as best I can for more than 2 yrs now.

Wow, I guess we agree. :):lol:

Now one of your little buddies posted on here a guarantee that there would be more bass bedding on May 29th...Are you saying anyone who keeps a bass then is unethical?

See, you gotta go 'there' don't ya?:gaga:

"UNETHICAL" is a crappy term anyway.

No, that person would be, under our current system, 100% legit. BUt anyone w/ 2 brain cells knows KILLING hen full o eggs isn't gonna HELP the fishery.:dizzy:

Really, is that the best you got? :lol:

[basskiller46]

Taking reproducing fish is ethical in my opinion. Almost every perch caught in the rivers and cuts now are reproducing fish. You are saying that is unethical?

What about last ice on Saginaw Bay in shallow water? Those fish are heading in to spawn...unethical to harvest them?

If so, then according to your logic all those fisherman getting those perch and walleye lawfully are unethical, yet the group of pre-season poachers posting on this topic are ethical. :rolleyes:

Yep poachers alright. Taking a fish handiling it like its worth a million dollars
and getting a picture with it and letting it go. Sounds like a bunch of a holes to me:lol:

Your right im only keeping fish from now on. I will be using electro shocking to catch them too but first i will make sure they are filled with eggs so they cant make anymore fish so that way next year can be even worse because i want to be ethical.

[sea nympho]

Taking reproducing fish is ethical in my opinion. Almost every perch caught in the rivers and cuts now are reproducing fish. You are saying that is unethical?

What about last ice on Saginaw Bay in shallow water? Those fish are heading in to spawn...unethical to harvest them?

If so, then according to your logic all those fisherman getting those perch and walleye lawfully are unethical, yet the group of pre-season poachers posting on this topic are ethical. :rolleyes:

And by YOUR logic ANY closed season for bass is POINTLESS...so what are you on this thread arguing for/against again? :confused:

[MSUICEMAN]

would i like the law more enforceable or defined? definitely... where there is questioning leads to arguments like this.

would i advocate C&R for all fish and all waters 12 mos of the year? i dunno. i'd hope there are people that are more SMEs about some fish than myself that would make educated decisions about things such as that.

[waterfoul]

You are welcome for clarifying things for you. I could see we needed to slow things down for you.

Now one of your little buddies posted on here a guarantee that there would be more bass bedding on May 29th...Are you saying anyone who keeps a bass then is unethical?

Are those guys that are perch fishing right now unethical?

What about the guys that are harvesting walleye on the Bay that are either reef spawners or haven't moved into the river yet?

That is what you seem to be saying, that a bunch of guys on here are unethical, but you seem to be the one urging people to break the law.

Hi, little buddy here... and you can all go ahead and keep all the fish you want. I don't care. I'm 100% NOT against keeping fish. I joke about keeping bass mostly because my experience is that they don't taste very good. But if you want... keep as many as you want it's your right. If you're a better cook than I am (totally possible!) eat em up!! I don't see where ethics plays a part. If you caught it legally, eat up! Bedding or not... you did the work, reap the benefits!!

I'm a tournament fisherman and I don't fish beds unless I'm in a tournament. Honestly I think they are too easy to catch most days... not every day, but most.

And yes, there WILL be more fish (bass at least) spawning on May 29th than there will be on April 26th. Fact. Water temp dictates this on every lake in the state. That along with the moon phases (which I haven't checked for either date). As a tourney fisherman I'm pretty well studied on bass behavior in our state (it can help you on those days when you can't buy a fish or a bite)

But like I said... My boat isn't ready to fish anyway so I'm just jealous of anyone who's been out fishing for any species since ice out!

[WALLEYE MIKE]

no, we didn't argue about that at all. i was not targeting a fish out of season at all. i was targeting steel with flies and spawn. i have NEVER said you can't fish where other fish are, you just can't target them.

if you truly aren't fishing for something out of season but get one that is out of season..... just throw it back and I have no problem with you (neither does the law). but if your intent is to catch something out of season, you broke the law and if they decide to ticket/fine/arrest ya.... well, too bad.

This is the law. Follow it or suffer the consequences if caught.

Nuff said!!