CR Tourney "official" ver. 2.0

[PWOG]

For all of those intrested in beating out the cob-webs of winter : we have a therapy plan for you!::D

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e35/locator012/CRTourney2009.jpg

[bassdisaster]

Page came out good, completely readable!
Very Nice job by the PWOG to post the tour flyer that I spent soo much time designing, now if we can just get participation were all set!

Note: Winners will also receive a Spring Fling T shirt, screen printed by Andersons in Croton, Very Nice guy if you ever need some screen printing done, he has all the equipment to design your logo and put it on a shirt!
He will have the machines set up and ready if anyone who DOESN'T win if they would like a shirt, I think he said $10 each, may be higher but either way I think its a deal!
Looking for Door Prizes currently, and I will post if I come up with anything!

I'm sure there will be questions about the format, ask away!
For any who want to sign up early Email me @ the Addy on the flyer and I will put you on the list!
The tournament PERMIT is for 25 boats, so 1st come 1st served, tho all are welcome and I'm working on a deal with Croton TWP just in case we have more than 25 boat's show, Cant turn anyone away!
Make sure you have a suitable measuring device, does not have to be a golden rule board, will need a minimum of 1/4" marks!

BD

[waterfoul]

I can probably come up with some door prized Carl.

And you know I'm in... so that's two boats so far!

[bassdisaster]

That would be sweet Mike, thanks!
I may be able to get a few things, The RUSTIC sport shop in Howard City likely will donate a hat or 2!

BD

[basskiller46]

Im almost 75% sure i will make it. Gotta wup some west side a $$ :lol:

[sea nympho]

Im almost 75% sure i will make it. Gotta wup some west side a $$ :lol:

Ever fished Croton before?

[waterfoul]

Im almost 75% sure i will make it. Gotta wup some west side a $$ :lol:


Bring it pal!!

I'd take him in my boat for sure... I've seen his pictures! :D

[basskiller46]

Bring it pal!!

I'd take him in my boat for sure... I've seen his pictures! :D

But i was pike fishing in those pictures:lol:

[basskiller46]

Ever fished Croton before?

Nope just talking out of my rear end:lol:

If i make it hopefully i get boated with someone good otherwise i know
zero spots.

[bassdisaster]

Nope just talking out of my rear end:lol:

If i make it hopefully i get boated with someone good otherwise i know
zero spots.

Oh I'm sure there will be a ringer or 2 in the lineup, not that I'm 1 of them:lol:
I only really got to know croton last year, but last spring was phenomenal!
Particularly MAY, a few smallies were bedding, but most were staging up getting ready, it was absolutely CRAZY!:dizzy:
That is part of my reasoning for picking Croton, the other is even if some of the guys do find largemouth, it wont matter, sense its all based on length!
And if the open draw for back seat doesn't excite you, well no matter then cause your prolly a boater anyway lol.
Just a pre season chance to fish with someone new, possibly win some cash as TOP BOAT? Thad be KEWL!
Stakes are low enough so that its more about fishig than competition anyway, but winning is always SWEET!

BD

[sea nympho]

Nope just talking out of my rear end:lol:

If i make it hopefully i get boated with someone good otherwise i know
zero spots.

It's full of these...if you can find 'em. ;)

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee159/seanympho/Smalljaws5-8-08-1.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee159/seanympho/Another_Big_Croton_Smallie.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee159/seanympho/ealrysmallie08.jpg

[basskiller46]

Stakes are low enough so that its more about fishig than competition anyway, but winning is always SWEET!

BD


Thats kind of why i wanna do it to see how i hold up against the adults
without breakin the bank.


Those are some hog smallies

[bassdisaster]

I put together a Waiver and Release form, All participants MUST sign it when they register!

Also Launch Draw will be decided at the launch, if theres over 15 boats it will be a draw! under 15 boats will be a Shotgun start!

I am aware the Causeway bridge is a NO WAKE ZONE, as far as any others I dunno?

Please be courteous when passing under the bridge and while maneuvering around others using the waterway!

FYI the TOP BOAT is the logical replacement for the BIG fish side pot!
As this is a PAPER tournament weights will be solely based on length, measuring to the nearest 1/8th inch!
There for make sure you have a suitable measuring device, in the last 2 seasons I have caught many fish over 23 inches at CROTON and my GOLDEN RULE board is ONLY 22 1/4 long!
Prepare accordingly!
Also the Decimal Conversion table maxes out at 25 7/8 inches! if you get a fish longer than that, oh well TOO BAD you lucky dog! he he he

BD

[ed1054]

I put together a Waiver and Release form, All participants MUST sign it when they register!

Also Launch Draw will be decided at the launch, if theres over 15 boats it will be a draw! under 15 boats will be a Shotgun start!

I am aware the Causeway bridge is a NO WAKE ZONE, as far as any others I dunno?

Please be courteous when passing under the bridge and while maneuvering around others using the waterway!

FYI the TOP BOAT is the logical replacement for the BIG fish side pot!
As this is a PAPER tournament weights will be solely based on length, measuring to the nearest 1/8th inch!
There for make sure you have a suitable measuring device, in the last 2 seasons I have caught many fish over 23 inches at CROTON and my GOLDEN RULE board is ONLY 22 1/4 long!
Prepare accordingly!
Also the Decimal Conversion table maxes out at 25 7/8 inches! if you get a fish longer than that, oh well TOO BAD you lucky dog! he he he

BD
If Carl is measuring smallmouths over 23 inches I want him to measure my fish. Those fish would all have to be over 6 pounds. I've caught a lot of smallmouths, but haven't caught one over 5 and 1/2 pounds yet. Maybe ther needs to be a rule and demonstration for the proper way to legally measure a fish. Or we need all to get the same ruler Carl has been using.

[basskiller46]

Since there is money involved i would make people take pictures with a camara. I would trust people on this site. But the economy the way it is i would not trust anyone else.

[bassdisaster]

If Carl is measuring smallmouths over 23 inches I want him to measure my fish. Those fish would all have to be over 6 pounds. I've caught a lot of smallmouths, but haven't caught one over 5 and 1/2 pounds yet. Maybe ther needs to be a rule and demonstration for the proper way to legally measure a fish. Or we need all to get the same ruler Carl has been using.

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1244&pictureid=7273


24 1/2" croton smallie! 5lbs 8 ounces!(with a cheap berkley scale!)
Sorry ed! he he he
Besides that ive seen some big Bucket mouths in Croton as well, and they can easliy measure over 23"!

[bassdisaster]

Since there is money involved i would make people take pictures with a camara. I would trust people on this site. But the economy the way it is i would not trust anyone else.

This is the reason for the BACKSEATER DRAW!
You are fishing against the other angler in the boat, and you must verify/witness the measurement of every fish the other angler catches, by writing it down and initialing it on the weigh sheet and vice-versa!
Now why would I give anything more than what it measures??? Considering that im fishing against the other angler! NO WAY!
Now your also fishing as a team with the other angler in the boat, but thats small change, only $5 per boat goes into it ---->TOP BOAT pays only 1 place!
Now maybe you understand the reasoning behind the format!
If not keep asking, I'll try to make it as clear as i can!

BD

[sea nympho]

Hmmm...Trust & Fisherman....

Not exactly like peanut butter & chocolate! :lol:

[ed1054]

Since there is money involved i would make people take pictures with a camara. I would trust people on this site. But the economy the way it is i would not trust anyone else.


Maybe we should reconsider and hand out a paper certificate for the winner and not have any money involved? Winners just get the respect of the others. Then they also could fish with their own partners. Take as many pictures as possible.

[basskiller46]

I just think that when there is money involved especially now a days there should be some kind of proof other than the person in the boat. It doesnt take
much to say you write this down and we can split the money. Besides most people in this world have camara phones.

If it was a club tournament you could trust people because you know them an most likely they are fishing for the fun of it. But it is an
open tournament(people you dont know) and money up for grabs with no real proof.

[bassdisaster]

The entire idea was to have a Tournament, with paper weights, with a co-angler thats Not your partner in order to keep us honest, if that angler and co-angler decided that cheating to win the TOP BOAT = $5 per boat was more important than the 65% of the entry fee's it pays to win? well that would just prove that they have no basic intelligence!
For instance, 10 boats means only $50 in the top boat pot, entry fee's paid by the 2 teams is $70, why would anyone spend $70 to win $50????
Cant assume anyone would cheat, cant automatically decide that, but if they do and they get caught, thats it, Banned Permanently!
Id have to believe that the Bad Reputation that would follow those 2 people like a bad odor would not be desirable!
Not to mention that if the 2 non team members in the boat wanted to cheat, then they are also cheating on their ACTUAL partners who likely paid 1/2 of the entry fee's, boy wouldn't that go over well!
I personally have to believe Bass Anglers in general are honest people, I have not met any that I believe would cheat!
And theres no way I'm going to sift thru 200 pictures to decide who had the most weight, what a nightmare that would be!!

BD

[bassdisaster]

Ok this time it worked, this is the Croton Hog I caught!
May 13, 2008 24 1/2" 5 lbs 8 oz.
Should't have to tell anyone where I am!
Hit on a Jig-n-craw in about 14 ft of water!

BD


http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1244&pictureid=7273

[sea nympho]

Yeah, we know know where that is! LMOA!!



Ok this time it worked, this is the Croton Hog I caught!
May 13, 2008 24 1/2" 5 lbs 8 oz.
Should't have to tell anyone where I am!
Hit on a Jig-n-craw in about 14 ft of water!

BD


http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1244&pictureid=7273

[ed1054]

Ok this time it worked, this is the Croton Hog I caught!
May 13, 2008 24 1/2" 5 lbs 8 oz.
Should't have to tell anyone where I am!
Hit on a Jig-n-craw in about 14 ft of water!

BD


http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1244&pictureid=7273
Carl, you must have huge hands!

[bassdisaster]

Put a tape measure to your hand and spread your fingers like mine are between your fingers, tell me what it measures?
My hand with fingers tightly together measures 3 1/2 inches, with them spread like how im holding that fish its close to 5"+, do the math buddy, I have!
Becides I had the fish in my hands and measured it, why would you doubt what im sayin??? this is the real question?

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=1244&pictureid=7277
And I supose this 5 pounder is not 22 inches either?
Huh seems like just because you have not found any HOG smallies that no one can??? lol Give it up already!

BD

[RJSwirlz]

BassDisaster, if I could have it in writing that I could be in your boat, or you could be in my boat, I would make it to that tourney for sure. And it's not even cuz I'd want to be put on fish, I'd just like to spend 8 hours in a boat with you to hear some stories cuz I laugh my ass off at nearly every one of your posts. Thanks for laughs and I hope the tourney is a success.

[bassdisaster]

BassDisaster, if I could have it in writing that I could be in your boat, or you could be in my boat, I would make it to that tourney for sure. And it's not even cuz I'd want to be put on fish, I'd just like to spend 8 hours in a boat with you to hear some stories cuz I laugh my ass off at nearly every one of your posts. Thanks for laughs and I hope the tourney is a success.

You must had ready my post on when I fell over board out in Havasu!

Damn I knew I shoulda kept that one im my pocket!

BD

[PWOG]

Bunch of SKULKERS hanging around making sure im at the launches i see..:yikes:
I had the backseat surveyed a couple years back so i know where the stakes are/were!! .....stakepullers:lol:
Backseat has a permanent *** groove in it btw:fish2:

[basskiller46]

I dont know that looks like a 2 pounder to me.

[msunolimit]

I dont know that looks like a 2 pounder to me.

Isn't it past your bedtime young one? :dizzy: Nice fish Carl.

FWIW, I'm not sure if Mikey and I are fishing as a team or not, but I plan on being in regardless. I'm sure somebody will want me as their partner lol.

[sea nympho]

... why would you doubt what im sayin??? this is the real question?

ONLY because it doesn't look like 24"!!! :hide:

Hate to say it...not calling you out...not saying you're a liar...but...just by looking at the pic...the Croton fish doesn't look to me any longer than 21". :lol:

[PWOG]

ONLY because it doesn't look like 24"!!! :hide:

Hate to say it...not calling you out...not saying you're a liar...but...just by looking at the pic...the Croton fish doesn't look to me any longer than 21". :lol:

Get in there and cast your vote on mine Brandon, Bet you anything-you/rrr wrong. I have a witness that seen it SQUASH the ruler

[bassdisaster]

ONLY because it doesn't look like 24"!!! :hide:

Hate to say it...not calling you out...not saying you're a liar...but...just by looking at the pic...the Croton fish doesn't look to me any longer than 21". :lol:

So your figuring my hand is only like what? 2" wide then!?? come on now, do the math dude, measure your own hand with fingers spread, see what you come up with! As I said befor, my hand is 3 1/2" wide, with fingers together, there easily 1/2" between each finger in that pic = 5 inches!
Then look again, and tell me that fish does not measure 5 x's the width my hand!
Im a construction bum, I have used tape measures my whole life, I can look at a fish or w.e. and guess it rite to the inch, most construction guys can do it, can you? I doubt it, and yet you think you can tell how long that fish is???
Friggin CRAZY
Even if my hand is only 4 inches (NOT) wide its still add's up to atleast 23 inches long!
Go ahead and pick all you want, I know what it measured, My buddy Jake you went Ice fishing with measured it he was there, so your sayin were both LIARS??? damn I hope not!
How about that Youpper smallie Brandon, you think that fish is not 22", if so then your calling myself and PWOG liars!

BD

[sea nympho]

...not calling you out...not saying you're a liar...

...so your sayin were both LIARS??? damn I hope not!
How about that Youpper smallie Brandon, you think that fish is not 22", if so then your calling myself and PWOG liars!

BD

:confused:

I said right there I wasn't calling you a liar...only that the pic does not do your 24.5" smallie justice.

CALM DOWN! :lol:

[bassdisaster]

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:confused:

I said right there I wasn't calling you a liar...only that the pic does not do your 24.5" smallie justice.

CALM DOWN! :lol:

FYI, to contradict what I or anyone says, is same as calling them a LIAR!
Even if you say your not!
Why would I lie about it, to fool my self maybe?? not!
Apparently no one believes it so who cares anyway, I know how big it was what else matters?
What started all of this bashing of my Monster Smallie, is the fact that I said be prepared to measure fish longer than 22", and it will likely happen, in fact I would wager that it will indeed happen!
So as I warned before, come prepared!

BD

[sea nympho]

FYI, to contradict what I or anyone says, is same as calling them a LIAR!

That's your reality, not mine. Actually, for YOUR information, that's NOT the definition of 'liar'. Contradicting is just that, voicing a difference of opinion...which I have no problem doing. :evilsmile


Like I've said too many times to even care anymore:dizzy:, your pic doesn't do that 24.5" fish justice...it APPEARS shorter than that.... that's not to say it isn't 24.5". Why so defensive? No one said it wasn't what you said it was, or that you are a liar. :)

[basskiller46]

Im telling you its only a 16 inch fish:lol:

Who cares no one has proof the picture wasnt taken on a tape measure.

[bassdisaster]

If your Ok with the format come on over and Join us!
If you are thinking some one may cheat then stay home, and if you thats thinking that way then stay home!

This is supposed to be a Pre season FUN event, No cheating is necessary, stake are small!

Back seater draw is the Keep Us Honest method, if that don't work then this whole format is not going to work!
I for 1 am not willing to give it up because theres a chance someone may try to cheat!

Though I don't see how that can happen, with paper weights written down by the other guy, who is NOT likely to give anymore than it measures because he and his partner are competing against you!

I see it being a fun day on the water, chasing my personal favorite fish to catch the SMALLIE!

I have put in a lot of effort to this point to try and make this happen, If a cheater can ruin it then I wasted my time!

I don't want to be sitting for hours after the tournament sifting thru 200 fish pictures when the measurements are rite there on paper! Can you imagine 20 boats with 10 pic's each to determine the weight, OMG would be a book keeping nightmare!

If some of the guys want to hold a BIG fish side pot, then ya Take pic's and prove it! Otherwise the HONOR method is all we have to go with!

If bass fishermen are not Honorable then who is anyway :yikes:

BD

[basskiller46]

If your Ok with the format come on over and Join us!
If you are thinking some one may cheat then stay home, and if you thats thinking that way then stay home!

This is supposed to be a Pre season FUN event, No cheating is necessary, stake are small!

Back seater draw is the Keep Us Honest method, if that don't work then this whole format is not going to work!
I for 1 am not willing to give it up because theres a chance someone may try to cheat!

Though I don't see how that can happen, with paper weights written down by the other guy, who is NOT likely to give anymore than it measures because he and his partner are competing against you!

I see it being a fun day on the water, chasing my personal favorite fish to catch the SMALLIE!

I have put in a lot of effort to this point to try and make this happen, If a cheater can ruin it then I wasted my time!

I don't want to be sitting for hours after the tournament sifting thru 200 fish pictures when the measurements are rite there on paper! Can you imagine 20 boats with 10 pic's each to determine the weight, OMG would be a book keeping nightmare!

If some of the guys want to hold a BIG fish side pot, then ya Take pic's and prove it! Otherwise the HONOR method is all we have to go with!

If bass fishermen are not Honorable then who is anyway :yikes:

BD

Just look at the top 3. All you have to see is that the tail ends on how ever
many inches they claimed. Its only 15 pics. If i make it i would be happy to help with what ever you need.

[sea nympho]

I really don't think cheating is gonna be a problem.:) The system you've devised seems pretty smart to me and I think it'll work just fine. Most here are good intentioned folks(never mind our quarrels over stupid ****!)!! lol! :lol:

If by some crazy chance a cheater shows, why should all the good people work around him so much. If that db is so determined and good and being a swindling weasel, I say f 'em...let 'em try. Can't wait to see him get caught. And if the db manages to win and walks away w/ a cowards' purse, let him spend it on booze and enjoy it...I'm sure sooner or later karma will knock & he'll get caught & get his.

Good job on the tourney Carl, nicely done. I'm bummed I'm gonna miss it...that's 2 days before I leave for Ontario & I just can't swing it.

[bassdisaster]

Too bad for you Brandon, when I get that big girl, i'll think of you and the look on your face when you see it! he he he
I worked hard to try to make it as uncheatable as I could, actually it wasent about the cheaters but fairness for all, no one should feel they got the short end of the stick!
However the weights will be somewhat exagerated:yikes: but that will alow someone to say they had a HUGE BAG!
The golden rule in general has proven its self to be a tad on the heavy side for our michigan fish, maybe spring and females with full bellies will help that some!
Thanks for the cudo's

BD

[waterfoul]

So come as a non-boater Brandon. Who knows... you could draw Carl as a partner! Or Ed... or me... or anyone else who comes. Should be fun.

[ed1054]

So come as a non-boater Brandon. Who knows... you could draw Carl as a partner! Or Ed... or me... or anyone else who comes. Should be fun.

I think I'll be on Hardy that day. Sounds like it will be too crowded on Croton.

[PWOG]

I think I'll be on Hardy that day. Sounds like it will be too crowded on Croton.

Geeze Mike what did you say?
:lol:

[bassdisaster]

I think I'll be on Hardy that day. Sounds like it will be too crowded on Croton.

Actually Ed I was hoping for 10-15 boats, nothign big, Id consider that a SUCCESS, but I doubt it will be crowded by any means, if somehow the Bass Gods Smile on this tournament and it grows to a 50-75 boat thing, i'll have to move it to hardy anyway! lol

See ya there

BD

[bassdisaster]

FYI all, I went to Croton and signed up for the (assembly) permit, no problem getting it, but my JAW about hit the floor when they said $50 rather than the $25 I had heard it was:yikes:
I had already intended on having the entry fee's absorb the permit cost, This could greatly effect the payout's depending on participation, plus I am already shuckin out the cash for the shirts to be given to the winners!
But theres NO LIMIT on particiation, I think the site accomidates up to 50 boats properly parked, so if turnout is good, then the $50 permit fee wont even be noticed!

BD

[bassdisaster]

We need boats, May 10 is coming fast, we need participation!
As of now i think we have only 3 for sure and a few maybe's!

Come on out and fish with us, Croton should be a SMALLMOUTH factory this spring!
CANT believe anyone would pass at a chance to put the smack down on some Bronze Back beasties!

See you there

BD/Carl

[waterfoul]

OK guys... time to start thinking seriously about attending this event.

If any boaters out there think they need a back seater to enter this don't worry... I know two very good fishermen who would love to attend this event but don't have boaters to fish with. So if you own a boat but don't have a partner... we can set you up no problem!!

[bassdisaster]

Carlielos@hotmail.com Send me a message and I will put you on the list!
I can see this being 1 of the best tournament days of the year!
1st is none of us have been in a tournament in early may, 2nd the fish are actively agressive and easy to catch this time of year!
Should be some heavy PAPER-bag's lol

Hope to see You there!

BD

[basskiller46]

Sorry im not going to be able to make it i have a tournament the day before and i have to work the day of your tournament. Maybe Next Year

[PWOG]

:irked:

[bassdisaster]

CANCELED

CANCELED

CANCELED

Sorry all mothersday weekend Cant make this happen
I'll try again next year!
Only not on mom's day

Thanks to thos who showed interest!

BD/Carl

[jaybassman]

is there any way this tournament can be on saturday or something?? I was really looking forward to this tournament. I understand that maybe the turnout rate may not be as good as you wanted but I think being that this is the first annual it is a good idea just to go with the few boats you have and let it be. If the tourney is fun, next year you will see a better turnout guaranteed. I would really like to see this thing happen...whats the odds of pulling it off on saturday??

[bassdisaster]

is there any way this tournament can be on saturday or something?? I was really looking forward to this tournament. I understand that maybe the turnout rate may not be as good as you wanted but I think being that this is the first annual it is a good idea just to go with the few boats you have and let it be. If the tourney is fun, next year you will see a better turnout guaranteed. I would really like to see this thing happen...whats the odds of pulling it off on saturday??
Dude as far as I know, we were only looking at maybe 3 boats, 2 of the guys that were in have changed plans, and I never realized it was mothersday:sad: apparently I looked at an old calander, cause it was suposed to be on a Saturday!
The real Problem is getting the info out there, I just dont think theres enuff time!
We will try it again next year, maybe I'll have a fresh calander this time and get the dates rite! lol
Sorry all

BD