Weight Forward Technology...

[wolverines]

Do you believe in this claim as far as what CX is offering??? If so, do you think that putting a wrap on the back of a WFT arrow will have an adverse effect? It's my understanding that the como part of the arrow is heavier and stiffer than the black section in the back. I was just wondering if wrapping the back of one of those arrows would take away from what they claim you get form WFT...
Also it would seem as though the shorter you go with your arrow the less the weight forward would have an effect. Can any shed any light on any of this? Does any of it really matter?

[madmike22]

I have shot them in the past. I couldnt really tell if there was a difference or not. Not sure how much more weight is forward? And if you added say a wrap with blazer vanes and then also went with one of the lit nocks that are quite a bit heavier than the regular nock how much if any of an adverse affect that would have. I had the maximas and the maxima 3d select. The maximas were weight forward and the 3d select were not. I could group them right together. Didnt matter the target. I could shoot my beman ics hunters with also and would get the same results.

[LungBuster 21]

Do you believe in this claim as far as what CX is offering??? If so, do you think that putting a wrap on the back of a WFT arrow will have an adverse effect? It's my understanding that the como part of the arrow is heavier and stiffer than the black section in the back. I was just wondering if wrapping the back of one of those arrows would take away from what they claim you get form WFT...
Also it would seem as though the shorter you go with your arrow the less the weight forward would have an effect. Can any shed any light on any of this? Does any of it really matter?

Putting a wrap on the back of your Maxima Hunters (WFT) will not affect the performance of your arrow. It is important to minimize the weight in the back of the arrow for it to perform its best. On mine I use Blazer vanes and a blazer wrap with the Carbon Express lighted nock. The biggest thing about that arrow that it is slightly stiffer in the back end which causes the arrow to recover faster out of the bow. So even if you had a little more weight in the back you will still have a stiffer back portion. If you start to get below a 27" arrow then you might want to start trimming some off the back end then the rest off the front. Overall great arrows!!

[halfczech]

I use arrows made by arrow dynamics. They have built in forward weight tech. They are tapered carbon shafts, bigger at insert end smaller at nock end. Very tough on deer and great line breakers on targets.

[hartofthethumb]

I use arrows made by arrow dynamics. They have built in forward weight tech. They are tapered carbon shafts, bigger at insert end smaller at nock end. Very tough on deer and great line breakers on targets.
sorry to go off topic, just gotta say, I am a fan of Arrow Dynamics as well, I've been shooting the green nitro stingers for probably 8 years. Very good arrow in my opinion.

[LungBuster 21]

sorry to go off topic, just gotta say, I am a fan of Arrow Dynamics as well, I've been shooting the green nitro stingers for probably 8 years. Very good arrow in my opinion.

Arrow Dynamics was getting there arrows from Victory arrows and re packaging them to sell them under their name. I'm not sure if it went through but I know there was talk on Carbon Express supplying Matt (owner) with their arrows.

[Ferris_StateHunter]

I have shot the maxima hunters, and since have upgraded to the Aramids (kevlar) arrows. I personally would not go back to anything but WFT. It has proven itself to me, and I am happy with it. and like LB21 said, the arrows technology is designed for an arrow to recover faster when it leaves the bow creating more accuracy.

[hartofthethumb]

Arrow Dynamics was getting there arrows from Victory arrows and re packaging them to sell them under their name. I'm not sure if it went through but I know there was talk on Carbon Express supplying Matt (owner) with their arrows.

Interesting, not that I don't believe you, but do you know this to be fact?I only ask because they(arrow dynamics) claim to "design, test and manufacture" their own arrows in Topeka, Kansas.
I know victory used to produce arrows for other companies before introducing their own brand, so maybe I'm way off.

Since there was mention of Victory arrows, I'll say that I have been experimenting with their v-force arrows a bit lately and they seem to be a pretty good arrow. I know they are just getting over some of the quality control issues that they were prone too early on(inconsistent tolerences on components), but I haven't had any issues and I think they are on the right track to putting those issues behind them. From what I hear they are now making there own points, etc. so they have more control over fitment. in my opinion they are a good arrow for the price, and shouldn't be overlooked.

once again, sorry for going off topic:bloos:

[LungBuster 21]

Interesting, not that I don't believe you, but do you know this to be fact?I only ask because they(arrow dynamics) claim to "design, test and manufacture" their own arrows in Topeka, Kansas.
I know victory used to produce arrows for other companies before introducing their own brand, so maybe I'm way off.

Since there was mention of Victory arrows, I'll say that I have been experimenting with their v-force arrows a bit lately and they seem to be a pretty good arrow. I know they are just getting over some of the quality control issues that they were prone too early on(inconsistent tolerences on components), but I haven't had any issues and I think they are on the right track to putting those issues behind them. From what I hear they are now making there own points, etc. so they have more control over fitment. in my opinion they are a good arrow for the price, and shouldn't be overlooked.

once again, sorry for going off topic:bloos:

When I made my comment I was thinking of arrow dynamic solutions and I must have my companies mixed up which I apologize for. Arrow dynamic solutions (maker of the gobbler guiollitne) was selling arrows under their name for their turkey broadhead. I just assumed the two were the same since I have never really heard of arrow dynamics arrow company out of Kansas. If you can fill me in on arrow dynamics that would ge great. They must be an older company? Out of business? Sorry for the mix up in information and taking the thread off topic. Also victory makes a great lookin and shootin arrow.

[Non Typical]

AD is still in biz and a great tapered shaft. A lot of people haven't heard of them but good shafts. Now wf is something that I believe in to bring foc in check but you can get to much or to little even with the weight forward shaft. Here is something to think about the wf shaft if you buy a set don't let them cut the point end only the nock end, if and when that happenes you pay for something you don't get. I shoot a standard shaft with no weight forward and get the right amout of foc from my forward tip (bh or fp). There is a lot of sites that you can plug in your numbers and your foc will show up like magic. Keep in mind the more weight in back the more you need in front.

[redwingsdude]

"Weight forward technology" is a good theory, and the fact that arrow makers are putting more stock in FOC is a good thing, but I think it's being a bit overblown. FOC needs to be in a certain range for it to really be effective, and adding a fraction of a grain per inch, over several inches doesn't make a massive difference. Yes, it will help downrange accuracy at longer distances, but WFT is not revolutionary, regular carbon arrows with a properly sized broadhead are still just as effective.

The way I see it, simply going from regular vanes to blazers and a lighter nock/bushing does just as much or more than adding a few grains over a foot in the front of the shaft. I shoot regular Maximas, which are .7 gpi lighter overall, and considering the extra weight is only in front, where you will likely cut several inches off of the shaft to get your proper sized arrow, it's not a whole lot heavier. Will that extra 10 grains out front help me? Maybe, but I'm plenty happy with how I'm shooting.

[grizzzcd]

Sorry, about what I'm going to say but, why not try an american made arrow like arrow dynamics/ gold tip/etc.. Any how if you are looking for weight forward why not go with a heavier tip, my archery guy told me this because I was thinking about switching to the wfd arrows and just stuck to the old 5575 gold tips with blazers and no problems here.

[GVDocHoliday]

The problem you run into with upping the point weight is that you'd have to get a stiffer arrow shaft. 25 grains can and will drastically effect broadhead accuracy.

[Grouse Hunter]

Carbontech is making a taper shaft also. The strength of this shaft is the tight tolerances CT is known for, but also the same internal diameter the entire length of the shaft. Making component use a non issue.

[Ack]

Sorry, about what I'm going to say but, why not try an american made arrow like arrow dynamics/ gold tip/etc.. Any how if you are looking for weight forward why not go with a heavier tip, my archery guy told me this because I was thinking about switching to the wfd arrows and just stuck to the old 5575 gold tips with blazers and no problems here.

Just to let you know Gold Tips are made in Mexico now......Victory arrows on the other hand are made in the USA. Personally I never bought into the whole "weight forward" thing and still shoot my regular black Maximas. Never had a problem with flight, but if I needed to adjust FOC the best way to do it is with insert weights.

[hartofthethumb]

When I made my comment I was thinking of arrow dynamic solutions and I must have my companies mixed up which I apologize for. Arrow dynamic solutions (maker of the gobbler guiollitne) was selling arrows under their name for their turkey broadhead. I just assumed the two were the same since I have never really heard of arrow dynamics arrow company out of Kansas. If you can fill me in on arrow dynamics that would ge great. They must be an older company? Out of business? Sorry for the mix up in information and taking the thread off topic. Also victory makes a great lookin and shootin arrow.

No prob. with the mix up, I just wanted to get things clear, I didn't know a.d. solutions put out an arrow. As far as the a.d. I was referring to, non typicl pretty much said it, tapered shaft, good arrow. They actually group better for me than anything else I've tried.

Just to let you know Gold Tips are made in Mexico now......Victory arrows on the other hand are made in the USA. Personally I never bought into the whole "weight forward" thing and still shoot my regular black Maximas. Never had a problem with flight, but if I needed to adjust FOC the best way to do it is with insert weights.

Actually victory used to produce the arrows for gold tip in Mexico. Now they produce their own arrows in Mexico. They are based in San Diego, CA yes, but the arrows are made in Mexico.

This part I'm not 100% on, but I was under the impression gold tips were manufactured in the states now, aside from their acc type arrow which is made in korea?? IDK it's all soooo confusing:dizzy:

[Ack]

Actually victory used to produce the arrows for gold tip in Mexico. Now they produce their own arrows in Mexico. They are based in San Diego, CA yes, but the arrows are made in Mexico.

This part I'm not 100% on, but I was under the impression gold tips were manufactured in the states now, aside from their acc type arrow which is made in korea?? IDK it's all soooo confusing:dizzy:

Hmmmm, what I had heard was just the opposite. Gold Tip moved to Mexico and Victory was making their own shafts in the states where the Gold Tips used to be made.......oh well, they are still all good shafts. ;)

[Michihunter]

Easton and Beman(same company BTW) are the only two arrows produced in the USA at the moment.