Red hooks revisited

[wally-eye]

Just bought a new Sportsmans Connnection book the other day and after reading it for a while came across this neat chart that I'm sure will NOT settle this age old arguement. I tried to scan it to my computer but it wouldn't show up good enough to read.
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Directly from the new book:

VISIBILITY OF COLORS UNDERWATER (clear water lake with slight algae bloom)

LOSS OF COLOR

Violet loses color at 10ft.
Indigo loses color at 15ft.
Red loses color at 25ft.
Orange loses color at 40ft.
Blue loses color at 50ft.
Yellow loses color at 80ft.
Green loses color at 95ft.
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Kind of funny because my ice box is just loaded with green jigs I've bought over the years for deep water perchin because they work. This chart give's me the reason why............

Enjoy..

Dan

[wartfroggy]

I am going to have to argue with that chart. Unless some new data has come up. Wrote a final paper on colors vs. salmon eye pigments.....pretty much on what colors they can see, at different stages of their life, and at different depths. Pretty neat stuff by the way. And it was nice that since I had to research and write a paper, may as well be something that I wanted to know. I'll have to dig around some of my old research I had, but the color absorbtion at different depths followed the old ROYGBIV deal, with reds filtering out shallowest and violet deepest.

[wally-eye]

When I read the book this morning and seen the chart I could not find any author or research that went along with the chart. It was just added on one page with no comment so I don't know how accurate it is........but I'm sure it will bring some interesting comments..........lol

My only concern is to "who" does the color disappear to.......fish or human??????????????

[Chad Smith]

The colors and the depth at which they "disappear" vary based on water clarity, basic science really.

[sfw1960]

'Splain me 'dis ole walleye gramps....
:lol:
Swedish pimps come with a RED flicker blade installed & a yellow "spare"
I have exchanged both and the "red" does the best...
They like black????

:dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy:

[wally-eye]

'Splain me 'dis ole walleye gramps....
:lol:
Swedish pimps come with a RED flicker blade installed & a yellow "spare"
I have exchanged both and the "red" does the best...
They like black????

:dizzy: :dizzy: :dizzy:


Hey wood chip boy I didn't make the chart and I said there is no research or author attributed to it...........

The post was for discussion only.....so go back to your assigned tasks and leave the fish discussion to the real walleye fisherman.........:idea:

[PINKSTEEL]

Here is something that I found that shows what depth/what color can be seen at:

http://www.fishinglightsetc.com/Color.html

[wartfroggy]

My only concern is to "who" does the color disappear to.......fish or human??????????????

Both, different colors of light have different wavelengths, and this causes certain colors to be absorbed by the water at different depths or rates. So red will not penetrate as deep into the water as say green or blue. Something looks red to you, because it reflects the red light back at you. Go into a dark room and shine a blue light at a red piece of paper, it will look far different than normal, because there is no red light to reflect back to your eye. SO, if red light cannot penetrate deep into the water, the color red is not visible at that depth, by anyone. It doesn't "disappear", and doesn't neccessarily go black, but it no longer looks red.

[wally-eye]

Both, different colors of light have different wavelengths, and this causes certain colors to be absorbed by the water at different depths or rates. So red will not penetrate as deep into the water as say green or blue. Something looks red to you, because it reflects the red light back at you. Go into a dark room and shine a blue light at a red piece of paper, it will look far different than normal, because there is no red light to reflect back to your eye. SO, if red light cannot penetrate deep into the water, the color red is not visible at that depth, by anyone. It doesn't "disappear", and doesn't neccessarily go black, but it no longer looks red.


Disappear was the wrong word to use......that's my bad.....I didn't really mean disappear but more lose the actual color........

[2tundras]

You wanna know flat out what lures turn blah at what depths. Ask a scuba diver.;)

Solved all my questions in one decent.

[wartfroggy]

You wanna know flat out what lures turn blah at what depths. Ask a scuba diver.;)

Solved all my questions in one decent.

That gives you a better understanding, but there are changes through the year and between bodies of water. Clearity, wave action, algea blooms, sun intensity, angle of sun (seasonal or daily), all will change what depth a color filters out.

[DanP]

Have a copy of photos of a coral head from the keys at 20-25 feet. Flash & no flash - should give you an idea of what happens to the color. Would attach them to the post but am cant get both linked and over.

[sfw1960]

Hey wood chip boy I didn't make the chart and I said there is no research or author attributed to it...........

The post was for discussion only.....so go back to your assigned tasks and leave the fish discussion to the real walleye fisherman.........:idea:

..... blowing smoke & mirrors again???
:evil:

Why thank you for the explanation ole walleye gramps......
:evilsmile

Last I knew you didn't make the board rules !!
BTW ~ Where's those "real" walleye fisherman???
:p

"Loses Color" a.k.a. turns BLACK , as in lack of light refraction or reflectivity....

WHY a!n't ch00 fEEsH!N' boY??????

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[DanP]

Color red at 20-25' no flash - day light - clear water

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/500/medium/IMG_2558_2_1.JPG

Also have a flash photo in the gallery of the same coral head.