got d.n.r.

[the roofer]

just wanted to let you know.dnr checked are minnow receipt,fishing lic.and are fish on the river.fishing cost enough without the tickets.also told us he has been getting people on alot of undersized eyes.

[steve myers]

When the DNR is out checking everyone all rules need to be followed especially undersized walleyes thats our future.

[the roofer]

maybe people don't know the legal size is 15"

[NIGHT SHIFT]

maybe people don't know the legal size is 15"
Ya, that excuse works all the time...........................not.

[jaybe]

fishing cost enough without the tickets

Sooo - were you guys OK, or did you get one . . . or two. . . ?

[wildcoy73]

Why is someone posting this as a bad thing?
We ask for the dnr to do a job and when they do it someone wants to cry about it.
If you where not legal, Than my money I spend for the DNR went to good use.

[the roofer]

not posting it as a bad thing!!!!! I think it is awsome...he also walk trough the parking lot checking the cars out..This is the first year I think I,ve seen them In about 20yrs.he did tell us though that lots of tickets handed out for no minnow recepit..and warnings like the one i got just a warning dont know what happend to the damn thing...and no other tickets just good job on the eyes its the first i've seen since the z-bridge...and i also told him he should issue tickets for trash outside shantys

[MrFysch]

Yeah thats what i want our DNR officers doing...handing out tickets to guys not having reciepts for minnows :confused: gimme a break.

[dlbaldwin01]

Yeah thats what i want our DNR officers doing...handing out tickets to guys not having reciepts for minnows :confused: gimme a break.


Yeah cause some laws are okay to break. Hate it when the DNR is out doing their job and keeping people in check.:rolleyes:

[FMann]

I didn't talk to the DNR but did see them driving north on the west side of the river in saginaw as we left to head for the indy bridge. 3 of us missed a total of 3 fish in saginaw and pulled up and headed for the indy bridge about 11 this morning. Got to the bridge about noon or so and right away I landed a 16-17 inch walter, then it was hit and miss on a bunch (14 or 15 landed and at least that many missed) little ones. Each of us missed at least 1 that felt like a keeper, I missed 2 and 1 of them was just under the hole and it was a pig. Then about 4 pm it shut down I don't know what happened but they just stoped bightin our baits. We all had a good time and each of us managed to catch a few fish.

[MrFysch]

Yeah we dont want a bunch of guys out fishing without reciepts for there minnows. Where else do you get minnows besides a bait shop in the middle of the winter?

[dlbaldwin01]

Yeah we dont want a bunch of guys out fishing without reciepts for there minnows. Where else do you get minnows besides a bait shop in the middle of the winter?


Well it would probably be better if they just let vhs spread to all the waters in michigan so we can lose even more fish.

[the roofer]

we cant have major break of vhs now..besides its already in the lakes.my point just being is that i got my minnows the night before.from a bait shop about 1/2 hr. from where i live.my wife calls me when i'm paying for them and starts:rant::rant::rant::rant: well i leave the bait shop ...They close right behind me..I get home to wife:rant::rant::rant::rant:and you know what i realize the kid that sold me the minnows never gave me the paper work..so I leave anyway...I never see the dnr on the river in the winter..my mouth hit the ice when I seen him...lucky for me he was cool...

[dlbaldwin01]

we cant have major break of vhs now..besides its already in the lakes.my point just being is that i got my minnows the night before.from a bait shop about 1/2 hr. from where i live.my wife calls me when i'm paying for them and starts:rant::rant::rant::rant: well i leave the bait shop ...They close right behind me..I get home to wife:rant::rant::rant::rant:and you know what i realize the kid that sold me the minnows never gave me the paper work..so I leave anyway...I never see the dnr on the river in the winter..my mouth hit the ice when I seen him...lucky for me he was cool...

Right, I know what your saying it's too little too late. I just read the law, and 9 out of 10 places don't even give you enough to meet the requirements of the law anyways. So if the DNR wanted to be real technical they could probably write almost everyone a ticket for this law.

[Roosevelt]

Alot of bait shops are failing to give out receipts/ paperwork. Also, it doesn't seem right that the reciepts expire after one week. I've kept minnows for a month or more at times.

Anyone with common sense will soon realize that the "receipt thang" is not going to prevent the spread of VHS. It's only going to put money in the governments' pocket and further deprive the people of this state from enjoying fishing.

Every dollar spent paying fines and taxes is one less dollar to boost the economy.:rolleyes:

[fishnfeathers]

Yeah cause some laws are okay to break. Hate it when the DNR is out doing their job and keeping people in check.:rolleyes:

:yeahthat: Nothing worse then that!

[WALLEYE MIKE]

Right, I know what your saying it's too little too late. I just read the law, and 9 out of 10 places don't even give you enough to meet the requirements of the law anyways. So if the DNR wanted to be real technical they could probably write almost everyone a ticket for this law.

I bought minnows today and got a reciept(to verify that they were VHS free). If I saw the DNR today, I was legal and had nothing to worry about.

[johnnie555]

Yeah I've gotta agree with the other guy on this one..As far as the minnow receipt goes?? Thats a crock of you know what for this time of year, I HIGHY doubt anyone has any minnow nets out this time of year in MI, where the hell do they think the bait is comming from?? "A LICENSED MINNOW DEALER" maybe they need to start cracking down on them, rather than hassle all of the fisherman out there.. I can see and understand the purpose in everything but having a little tiny piece of paper that you could fake or scrible some crap on anyway is really gonna make a difference!! I really think its just a way to make a little extra cash for our already hurting state! "no thanks to GRAHOLM". The DNR in our great state is in bad need of some reconstruction! Its needs to be fixed in our legislative level rather than have the CO's getting the raw end of the deal enforcing already retarded laws!! So give them a break, abide by the already retarded laws that are "great" legislators have enacted and pick up after yourselves, and you will make everyone else's and your own day a better one!! Just my two cents worth........

[mkroulik]

Here's my thought. If your fishing in VHS infected water, why does it matter if you bait has VHS or not? That law should only apply to inland lakes, and not lakes or rivers that are already known to have VHS.

Mike

[dlbaldwin01]

Mike, I have two receipts in my wallet right now that do not meet the criteria that is listed by the DNR. They do not list whether it is cerified or not as VHS free. Just saying that not all dealers give out the total requirement of the law. Just a receipt that says 2 doz minnows is technically not a legal receipt. I was not aware of this until recently, just a friendly reminder to fellow sportsmen.

http://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10364_10950_46202-206378--,00.html

EDIT:
Check out the law forum the question of minnow receipts has been asked over there too.

[bjacobs]

I had the same discussion with some friends recently. It doesn't make sense to me.

Here's my thought. If your fishing in VHS infected water, why does it matter if you bait has VHS or not? That law should only apply to inland lakes, and not lakes or rivers that are already known to have VHS.

Mike

[the roofer]

Guys ever heard of CWD and the bait ban?

Is this VHS stuff in the same catogorie?
nope its not and here is my 2 cents...we have deer running the fields with cwd aready.eating out of the same man made food plots.not baiting may slow it down but its not going to stop it.The fish are different though.I believe the lakes already have vhs.so why are we not able to bait the deer,but we can bait the fish with minnows.If the 2 laws were the same then we would't be able to buy or use minnows period.To bad i coudn't get a receipt for my deer bait.

[duxdog]

Guys! I have minnow receipts for anybody that needs them. I just got a shipment in. These are top of the line receipts. Not your average receipts. They look better than the real thing. I'll even deliver them to you on the river if you need them in a pinch for a fee.:D WARNING! Once you try them it is hard to stop. Hit me up on my cell 867 5309.:lol::lol::lol:

[WALLEYE MIKE]

Here's my thought. If your fishing in VHS infected water, why does it matter if you bait has VHS or not? That law should only apply to inland lakes, and not lakes or rivers that are already known to have VHS.

Mike

Your suppose to get a reciept when purchasing minnows. The bait dealer does not know where you are heading to fish and should not presume where you are fishing. Therefore everyone gets a reciept. It might be lake A or lake B or whereever.

[duxdog]

I forgot. Gwedo wil be behind the piller under the bridge at midnight. :lol::lol::lol:

[the roofer]

I forgot. Gwedo wil be behind the piller under the bridge at midnight. :lol::lol::lol:
does he sell minnows also?

[tommy-n]

no, but she does, twenty dollar no hollar

[duxdog]

does he sell minnows also?

Only if He know you or someone vouches for you.;) His supplier brings them acrossed the border once a week hidden in Garbage trucks in route for Montrose.:lol::lol::lol:

[duxdog]

:16suspect

[MrFysch]

I dont break the law. Why hassle the guys that are out there putting some money into the economy legally. I have to dig thru my jacket/carharts jeans looking for a stupid reciept? The DNR has more important things to do harrasing a man for something that he has done NOTHING wrong for. I know that there are exceptions but here are a few of the encounters i have had over the years from DNR officers and i have been friends with a couple over the years since i have been guiding for over 20 years. ' you had to snag that coho because they wont hit anything in the rivers'. 'you had to be fishing with to many lines because i saw you have an extra rod in your hand' (was respooling a reel on my lake michigan boat) 'let me see the plugs in your guns' (me and buddy had over and unders) i could add a lot more and i have never got a violation but would just like to see people hired that were outdoorsman and were ticketing REAL VIOLATORS!:dizzy:

[mydogisscout]

I belong to quite a few forum sites, and i have to say this...I have never seen so many self-righteous hipocrites in one place in my whole life. you know if a guy shoots a button buck right at dark, inside shooting hours. because he thought it was a doe, the whiners and crybabies on this site would give him hell. I saw guys complain about stupid things on this site, i've seen guys ready to fight because of something someone else did that was perfectly legal. And god forbid someone actually breaks a law...accident or not, guys will give him both barrels.true the DNR is not a perfect bunch, i have met some good ones, i have met some dinks, but they have a job to do, it's no big deal. have your reciept, and stop whining! IT'S THE LAW...OBEY IT, or don't fish.

[duxdog]

DNR guy-"You don't have your minnow receipt?"

Fishin guy-"Ahh, I don't think I got one at the bait store."

DNR guy (as he/she put their hand near the holster)- "I need to see your license right away." OOPS, I forgot- "PUT DOWN THAT WEAPON! Uhh.....I mean jigging rod."

Fishing guy- "ok''?????

DNR guy- "Don't reach into your coat sir"
Fish guy- "uhh, that is where my license is."

DNR guy- "slowwwly."

DNR guy- "OK Mr. Fishing Guy here is a ticket for this,this and that. If you call this number, you will find what your fines are. I suggest you take this minnow receipt law a little more serious next time".

DNR guy walks away feeling like he just saved the world.

Fishin guy feels like he was taken into the back room and bent over the washing machine.

[tommy-n]

Thats pretty funny

on a more serious note, this started last year and warnings were given to some people, how long do you guys think it should go on with just warnings, you would think people would get with the program after a full year, after all this really is nothing new.

[KrossJr]

NO WARNINGS! Bottom line is it is the law. If you don't like it, stay home.

[duxdog]

Ok, yes they have a job to do. I agree. But do you really think a guy sitting on the ice in Saginaw drove over to Canada to get his minnows or is raising them in his pond? Don't you think the Freightor bring in a few more bad things than the guy sitting on the ice?

And, I have been around LEO's most of my adult life. I worked for the state as a corrections officer and was in a 12 year relationship with a deputy (female before you guys get any goofy ideas). This I will tell you as fact. 1. You are guilty til proven innocent. 2. If you are not one of them, you are on the other side.

[mkroulik]

Your suppose to get a reciept when purchasing minnows. The bait dealer does not know where you are heading to fish and should not presume where you are fishing. Therefore everyone gets a reciept. It might be lake A or lake B or whereever.

Yes, I agree that they should always supply a receipt, but if I'm fishing on known VHS water, I don't think that law should be in affect. Much like certain lakes have trout regs, known infected VHS waters should not require a receipt. I'm not disputing that since it's the law everyone should follow it, I'm debating the law itself. I don't agree with it, but I follow it. I would just like to see the law changed, that's my point. If people didn't try to change the laws that don't make sense or they didn't agree with, women and minorities wouldn't have the right to vote. Don't forget most of you would still be living in Europe.

Mike

[BIG DAVE]

NO WARNINGS! Bottom line is it is the law. If you don't like it, stay home.
:yeahthat:

[jrsoup]

DNR guy-"You don't have your minnow receipt?"

Fishin guy-"Ahh, I don't think I got one at the bait store."

DNR guy (as he/she put their hand near the holster)- "I need to see your license right away." OOPS, I forgot- "PUT DOWN THAT WEAPON! Uhh.....I mean jigging rod."

Fishing guy- "ok''?????

DNR guy- "Don't reach into your coat sir"
Fish guy- "uhh, that is where my license is."

DNR guy- "slowwwly."

DNR guy- "OK Mr. Fishing Guy here is a ticket for this,this and that. If you call this number, you will find what your fines are. I suggest you take this minnow receipt law a little more serious next time".

DNR guy walks away feeling like he just saved the world.

Fishin guy feels like he was taken into the back room and bent over the washing machine. Actually fishin guy thinks to self....I'm a moron, all I had to do was keep my receipt.:lol:

[jgoss1205]

The DNR keeps fishing alive. Without them everyone would keep 5 gallon buckets full 8" eyes then next year no ones catching any saying damn where was the DNR on this. The DNR is here to protect your fishing. Many people will not obey laws if there arent any penalties.

[MuskyDan]

The DNR has a ton of work to do in the state of Michigan, one thing in particular is to recruit hunters and fisherman after all their paychecks come from the pockets of the licensed sportsman.

They are the professionals but if it were my buisness I would spend a bit more time trying to recruit customers and a bit less time making frivolous(sp) laws that chases them away.

A minnow reciept to fish the Saginaw River:lol: when they question you ask them if Dow has a reciept for the bait they use or even better ask the DNR if the Genesse county water treatment plant certified the millions of brown trout they release into the river every year!!!

[mkroulik]

I just wanted to add one last thing. I've never had a CO or DNR Biologist be in anyway rude to me or unprofessional. The ones I have dealt with have been good, both men and women.

Mike

[Ara]

Clearly any law that does not make sense or is inconvenient should be ignored. *** Ignorance is no excuse, neither is being in a hurry, nor is the kid at the bait shop was a douche bag. When you make the decision to go out fishing, hunting or whatever it is your responsibility to know the laws and requirements surrounding that activity. It is your choice whether or not you abide by them. If people spent as much effort following the rules as they do bitching about them, they would have ZERO problems out there. Ask for a receipt and put it with your fishing license. Set a positive example.

[duxdog]

Actually fishin guy thinks to self....I'm a moron, all I had to do was keep my receipt.:lol:


you must be one of those kids that got beat up in school all the time when you were little.

[MuskyDan]

why is it necessary to have certified bait on infected waters? We can all agree that nobody wants to intentionally break the law, but the fact that there is a chicken #### law on the books like this is absurd. And futhermore the fact that the DNR officers are wasting their time and our money pressing people about receipts on already infected waters is a joke. Aren't their better things to do than check for receipts? If they can't come up with something to do that is a bit more relevant to conservation and a bit less of a waste of time maybe we should lay half of them off in the winter!!!

[duxdog]

why is it necessary to have certified bait on infected waters? We can all agree that nobody wants to intentionally break the law, but the fact that there is a chicken #### law on the books like this is absurd. And futhermore the fact that the DNR officers are wasting their time and our money pressing people about receipts on already infected waters is a joke. Aren't their better things to do than check for receipts? If they can't come up with something to do that is a bit more relevant to conservation and a bit less of a waste of time maybe we should lay half of them off in the winter!!!

Dan, your last sentence basically answers it for you. It is called justifing their exsistance. Sad, ehh?

[duxdog]

Don't foget I still need a couple of big pigs for molding.;)

[MuskyDan]

Dan, your last sentence basically answers it for you. It is called justifing their exsistance. Sad, ehh?


Yeah, it is sad that there is so many people out there that simply say to themselves, "if I just follow the rules they put in front of me I will be alright!" But they don't even think about the rules they are asked to obey, following like a flock of sheep and proud. Good for you folks keep on following blindly the crap that our broken state and its leaders force feeds you.

[motownfisher]

I hope all of you guys that are too busy to carry a receipt or trying to be martyrs keep up the good work. The state needs the money and if you dimwits would rather pay fines than carry a receipt...EXCELLENT

[duxdog]

I hope all of you guys that are too busy to carry a receipt or trying to be martyrs keep up the good work. The state needs the money and if you dimwits would rather pay fines than carry a receipt...EXCELLENT


Nope, I just don't buy a license and take as many as I want when I'm fishing and hunting. Limits???? who the hell cares about limits. You should see the BIG female wallys that get speared in the creeks in the spring.:D