Bounty Proposed for Wild Hogs

[4 Car Garage]

http://www.freep.com/article/20090109/NEWS06/90109098/Bounty+system+could+pay+hunters+up+to+$75+apiece+t o+kill+wild+hogs

A conservation group believes the threat wild hogs pose to Michigan’s farms, forests and wildlife is so grave that the state should pay bounty hunters up to $75 apiece to eliminate the 3,000 to 5,000 feral pigs roaming in 63 counties.

[Whit1]

With the state facing a $1 billion deficit it'll never happen.

[RDS-1025]

I'm not sure this is the way to go but I do feel that you should be able to shoot them on sight regardless of wether you have a license or not. They are not game animals, they are invasive.

[Wildwood_Deckers]

I agree, it will never happen.... what they need to do is open season year round without restrictions... It is rediculous how you can not hunt them with dogs from april - july .... that is their most productive time... if they are worried about the young of other species, the hogs will do a million times more damage than allowing hunters to use dogs during that time of year....

I have about given up on the idea of running them with dogs.... no dogs april-july, no dogs during deer season, etc etc... Its a loosing battle all the way around....

Clyde

[Perferator]

I'm not sure this is the way to go but I do feel that you should be able to shoot them on sight regardless of wether you have a license or not. They are not game animals, they are invasive.

Liscense=revenue

They need that too

[mrctfd]

No need to pay me, If I see one in lenawee county it will be in the freezer!

[dwlk5]

Any info on where to find them and how to hunt them are farmers willing to let hunters on thier land to kill them?

[Justin]

There is no reason to pay a bounty, there's plenty of hungry people/hunters around. They just need access.

[DANIEL MARK ZAPOLSKI]

There is no reason to pay a bounty, there's plenty of hungry people/hunters around. They just need access.

SURE THERE IS A NEED FOR A BOUNTY . we the people of the state of michigan didn't cause this problem with the pigs. it was the game ranches that caused this issue, so they should collectively be made to pay a $$100.00 bounty. the game ranches make big bucks off of a private business, its not the responsibility of the citizens to pay for it. further more, if they cannot or won't pay up shut them down, PERIOD.
THIS GOES ALONG THE SAME LINE AS IF YOU POLLUTE THE WATERS YOU PAY,
YOU BREAK THE LAW YOU PAY.
oh yes, justin you apparently don't know how destructive hogs are in the wild. let me enlighten you they can and will destroy the farming industry here in michigan if they ever get a solid foothold, not to mention the public lands.

[Justin]

Daniel, which ones should pay? I,m quite sure they all have not let hots escape. While I agree I would like them all shut down, it doesn't seem likely. The lands that will see the most damage are the private farm lands. If the farmers don't want a the problem, simply let hunters and trappers take care of it. They may even sell hog hunts. I'm willing to bet the biggest problems will be in the slp., just like the deer.

[DANIEL MARK ZAPOLSKI]

Daniel, which ones should pay? I,m quite sure they all have not let hots escape. While I agree I would like them all shut down, it doesn't seem likely. The lands that will see the most damage are the private farm lands. If the farmers don't want a the problem, simply let hunters and trappers take care of it. They may even sell hog hunts. I'm willing to bet the biggest problems will be in the slp., just like the deer.

every single ranch that has and or has had hogs should pay period ! oh yes, then ban this activity in michigan. i have no problem with people spending millions of dollars to kill in cages if thats what floats their boat. but hogs are hogs and destroy everything.
hope this is the answer you wanted.:coolgleam

[Justin]

I wasn't looking for an answer, and don't need one.

[RDS-1025]

Liscense=revenue

They need that too
So lets let the hogs run wild because someone didn't pay the dnr for a license?

[DANIEL MARK ZAPOLSKI]

I wasn't looking for an answer, and don't need one.

than why did you ask the question:dizzy::dizzy::lol:

[2PawsRiver]

Daniel, which ones should pay?

In these parts we call that a question:D

[NoWake]

You plan on making hog farmers cough up their share too?

[swampbuck]

There are a lot of people willing to shoot them, a bounty wont help.

For those who havnt tried hunting them in the woods. I have and its a whole new ballgame makes buck hunting look like kiddy games. and that was shortly after they escaped in three different locations(Houghton Lk.,W. Branch,kawkalin flooding), while they were still concentrated. they have now dispersed....... If the dnr truely wants them gone(questionable in my opinion) The need to remove ALL restrictions, especially night hunting with rifles or slugs and live trapping on public land.

At this point from the research I have done on other states, its too late theyre already established, We might as well let the population build up and have another hunting option. Then the Dnr can sell licenses and increase theyre revenue.

[soggybtmboys]

In ten years, they will be as commonplace as deer.

[DANIEL MARK ZAPOLSKI]

You plan on making hog farmers cough up their share too?

yes if they have russian boars and the likes. if they are a cause of the problem you damn bet yah. i sure don't need any more bills. do you? and that is a question (just in case you're reading justin):lol:

[Justin]

Good luck with that;)

[jjc155]

I had no idea that they estimate 3-5K out there. I thought that it was in the low hundereds!

As for a bounty No need for me, its in the freezer if I see one. Although maybe a coupon for processing would be nice, :rolleyes: but just like the bounty don't think that would happen.

J-

[FixedBlade]

No license
No season
No night hunting

[swampbuck]

No license
No season
No night hunting

They are nocturnal, and at the current density The only way they will be killed is by chance. I guess once the population gets high enough we will be able to fill our new hog tags during the day.

[Mickey Finn]

Why would you want unlicensed gunmen running around in the woods. No offense to any Michigan Militia men who may be reading this.
It's having a license that makes us hunters. To possess a license, we have to meet these standards.

To purchase a regular hunting or fur harvester license, you must have one of the following:


A valid Michigan Driver License.
A valid Michigan ID Card (issued by the Secretary of State).
A Michigan DNR Sportcard (issued through license agents or DNR Web site). If the information on your DNR Sportcard from a previous year is still accurate, you should continue to use it.
In order to purchase a regular hunting license, all hunters born on or after January 1, 1960, also must present their hunter safety certificate, previous hunting license or sign their license in the presence of the license agent. This also applies to hunters who intend to hunt furbearers under a fur harvester license.
All licenses must be signed to be valid. Your signature certifies that you meet the residency and hunter safety requirements to purchase the license.
When hunting or trapping, you must carry your license and the identification used to purchase that license.
It is illegal to use another person's hunting license.
A junior fur harvester-trap only license is available for youngsters who do not satisfy the training requirements for purchasing a hunting license.
To qualify for any adult resident hunting or fur harvester license. you must meet one of the following criteria:

Reside in a settled or permanent home or domicile within the boundaries of this state with the intention of remaining in this state. The ownership of land in Michigan by itself is not a qualification for a resident license.
Be a full-time student at a Michigan college or university.
Serve full time in the U.S. Military and be officially stationed in Michigan.



Granted they're kind of low. But our state regulates hunting. This is evidenced by the need to be licensed. After paying the proscribed fees of course.;)

[NoWake]

yes if they have russian boars and the likes. if they are a cause of the problem you damn bet yah. i sure don't need any more bills. do you? and that is a question (just in case you're reading justin):lol:

Oh, it's only Russians that are on the loose eh? LOL I understand where you're coming from, Ijust don't think it's as black and white as that.

[Justin]

Just curious, what bills?:confused:

[DANIEL MARK ZAPOLSKI]

Oh, it's only Russians that are on the loose eh? LOL I understand where you're coming from, Ijust don't think it's as black and white as that.

YOU MAY WISH TO REREAD, after russian boars it says AND THE LIKES. this would be akin to any other like speices. and yes if a hog farmer causes the problem they should pay up to. i don't see any where that said get a free pass skip the fine and jail, this isn't a monoploly game. this is a very serious issue if you wish to bury your head in the sand go ahead but watch out your ass is exsposed.$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and we the people (that would be everyone in michigan) will have to pay for it, in soo many ways. i see no reason that those who make a profit off of it should noy shoulder the burden of the clean-up, whatever the costs are. the same goes for all those b******** that ruined lake huron withall that s*** from their balasts. that was only a couple of BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY shot to hell. thats ok to i suppose?

[DANIEL MARK ZAPOLSKI]

Just curious, what bills?:confused:

i take it you don't understand economics. lets try this, example 1. higher license fees and or taxes to support a bounty. 2. higher costs of food products, you don't think they call them hogs for nothing do you ?(thats another question :lol:) hogs will wipe out entire farms, the small ones for sure. farmers can only take so much of a beating before they quit and sell out the land. then that entails the higher costs----less produce ---more demand----more$$$$$$$$ out of your pocket, its real simple. just like the gasoline game. this is only a small sample of what bills. you don't have to believe me just ask any MDNR CO. OR FARMER what hogs can and will do.

[NoWake]

every single ranch that has and or has had hogs should pay period ! oh yes, then ban this activity in michigan. i have no problem with people spending millions of dollars to kill in cages if thats what floats their boat. but hogs are hogs and destroy everything.
hope this is the answer you wanted.:coolgleam

yes if they have russian boars and the likes. if they are a cause of the problem you damn bet yah. i sure don't need any more bills. do you? and that is a question (just in case you're reading justin):lol:

YOU MAY WISH TO REREAD, after russian boars it says AND THE LIKES. this would be akin to any other like speices. and yes if a hog farmer causes the problem they should pay up to. i don't see any where that said get a free pass skip the fine and jail, this isn't a monoploly game. this is a very serious issue if you wish to bury your head in the sand go ahead but watch out your ass is exsposed.$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and we the people (that would be everyone in michigan) will have to pay for it, in soo many ways. i see no reason that those who make a profit off of it should noy shoulder the burden of the clean-up, whatever the costs are. the same goes for all those b******** that ruined lake huron withall that s*** from their balasts. that was only a couple of BILLION DOLLAR INDUSTRY shot to hell. thats ok to i suppose?

every single ranch that has and or has had hogs should pay period ! oh yes, then ban this activity in michigan.

Then the same would have to apply to farmers too. Unless your saying there is no chance of hog farmers have any escape.


So now if someone doesn't agree with your ideas of a bounty paid for by game ranches, and hog farmers, and then forcing them out of business indescriminately, they are burying their head sand and ruining the great lakes? LMAO. Carry on DMZ, your on a roll! :lol:

[Justin]

Higher license fees and taxes won't happen because we don't need a bounty! The solution is simple. If your farm is being torn up, invite some hunters/trappers in to help. No, you won't eliminate the hogs, but you can minimize the damage. They have had hogs down south for many years and as far as I can tell, they still have farms, and deer.

[bluegillman]

I am just jumping in with a question. Kazoo paper talked about a bounty for southwest Michigan. I have never seen or heard of them in the Sturgis are. Anyone else?

[wildcoy73]

Live in texas for 10 years, just north of Houston and we had hogs.
My land did not look much diffrent than a swamp up in Michigan. I had deer running around and Even hogs. I did harvest one while down there.
I do not see the problem we all cry about. We have pigs. Make them part of the small game tag, and go out and hunt them. no limit on how many a hunter can take, and allow hunting 24/7.
I am still waiting to see my first pig in Michigan, and hopefully when I do see him I can put him in the freezer.

[duxdog]

I've never seen one and do not know anyone who has. I think It's like snipe hunting.....all a big myth. Let them breed. I'm all for something else to hunt.:D
:hide:

[bassdisaster]

I've never seen one and do not know anyone who has. I think It's like snipe hunting.....all a big myth. Let them breed. I'm all for something else to hunt.:D
:hide:
I have not personally seen any, but i have ran accrost some of the dammage they do, i seen what looked to be plowed up, piled up dirt, and it was a big area, littered with PIG tracks, all the roots of all the saplling tree's wer eaten up and the ground left looking like a disaster area!
Ya Id put em in my freezer if i seen any You betcha! Kill em ALL!
BD

[swampbuck]

Why would you want unlicensed gunmen running around in the woods. No offense to any Michigan Militia men who may be reading this.
It's having a license that makes us hunters. To possess a license, we have to meet these standards.


To purchase a regular hunting or fur harvester license, you must have one of the following:


A valid Michigan Driver License.
A valid Michigan ID Card (issued by the Secretary of State).
A Michigan DNR Sportcard (issued through license agents or DNR Web site). If the information on your DNR Sportcard from a previous year is still accurate, you should continue to use it.
In order to purchase a regular hunting license, all hunters born on or after January 1, 1960, also must present their hunter safety certificate, previous hunting license or sign their license in the presence of the license agent. This also applies to hunters who intend to hunt furbearers under a fur harvester license.
All licenses must be signed to be valid. Your signature certifies that you meet the residency and hunter safety requirements to purchase the license.
When hunting or trapping, you must carry your license and the identification used to purchase that license.
It is illegal to use another person's hunting license.
A junior fur harvester-trap only license is available for youngsters who do not satisfy the training requirements for purchasing a hunting license.
To qualify for any adult resident hunting or fur harvester license. you must meet one of the following criteria:

Reside in a settled or permanent home or domicile within the boundaries of this state with the intention of remaining in this state. The ownership of land in Michigan by itself is not a qualification for a resident license.
Be a full-time student at a Michigan college or university.
Serve full time in the U.S. Military and be officially stationed in Michigan.

Granted they're kind of low. But our state regulates hunting. This is evidenced by the need to be licensed. After paying the proscribed fees of course.;)

You dont need a license to carry in the woods now!

[DANIEL MARK ZAPOLSKI]

You dont need a license to carry in the woods now!

oh brior rabbit,:D look out till march 31st. i do believe you need a license, well i got one just to be legal.

[Mickey Finn]

You dont need a license to carry in the woods now!

Are you refering to CCW? If so, they are like wise regulated, and not for taking game.

But I think you missed the whole point. We are talking about the requirement of any hunting license to take feral hogs. I questioned why anyone would want un regulated people out taking game in the woods.

We are lucky sofar that the DNR has left this situation up to us hunters to try and solve.

[streamertosser]

not to change the topic of this post, but ANYone who legally owns a handgun can OPENLY carry it in the woods along with many other places for that matter, but NOT for the purposes of hunting UNLESS licensed with any type of valid mi hunting license. to carry concealed, one must posess a CPL, everyone should have one if they meet the criteria, excersise your right folks.

do it the legit way though, if you're gonna go after hogs,have a small game license or something valid, that's their onl requirement, it isn't much and we should all have one anyways.

as for the bounty... that's nice, an extra $75 but i'd gladly do it for free lol

[swampbuck]

We were through the carry thing last year, You are allowed to carry a gun on public land for target practice/ plinking without a hunting license.

[Mickey Finn]

We were through the carry thing last year, You are allowed to carry a gun on public land for target practice/ plinking without a hunting license.

Your PMs are full bud.