grouse loads

[freshfish]

Can I get a consensus from you shotshell reloaders on the "perfect" upland bird and rabbit loads? I have been having terrible luck with my 12 ga. mag reloads for grouse.
Whats the load? HELP!

jim

[Mr. 16 gauge]

Jim,
What specifically is the problem you are having with your reloads? Is it a chambering problem, crimping problem, or you just can't hit birds with them? Maybe if you give us some more specifics, we can help you better. What components (wad, case, poowder, ect) are you using?

[Grouse Hunter]

I have had excellent success with this load for pheasants.

AA hull
win 209
win wad aaf114
27 grains hiskor 800x
1 1/4 of copper plated #6

Leaves at about 1300 fps
Its a little heavy for grouse but great for pheasants
I use the 20 for grouse.

[This message has been edited by Grouse Hunter (edited 12-09-2000).]

[K-DOGG]

We use the same load for both rabbit and bird's(pheasant,grouse)this is what we found to be a all around decent load.Good luck

Winchester AA
FED.209 primer
Remington sp12 wad 1 1/4 oz.
DUPONT 4756 POWDER 30.2 grian.
#4 Lead shot