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steelie
09-02-2008, 07:08 PM
Good Day,

Seeing as the fish are starting to show up at 6th St., I thought I would post a map of the area from the dam to 96 for safety's sake. Even those of us who have waded it for years sometimes forget a few things. And also, each year their are always newbies who fall in as they are not familiar with the terrritory. Fall fishing is certainly safer than Spring with it's lower water levels, but the river still needs to be respected. It can kill you if you are not carefull. Oh yeah, I don't remember who originally created the map, but I did not.

http://img5.glowfoto.com/images/2007/08/23-0904279297T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/user_imageredirect.php?iid=1671535)

A few points of safety to keep in mind. First, always wear a wading belt. It will assist you to keep your legs afloat if you have to ride the current. Don't flail away, just try to easily get yourself to shore. Don't fight the current.

Now a few spots to be aware of, and please, if you feel I have missed any, feel free to add them in your posts.

The map is positioned with East being the top and West the bottom. The darker blue indicates deeper water.

The darker blues along the East Wall to those paralleling 96 are beyond dangerous. Fall in these areas and you could get sucked into the "Quarry Hole" and certainly risk death. So avoid them. You can fish adjacent to them and thow into them, with extreme caution.

East Side - Upper left hand corner of the map. You will notice a tongue of shallower water surrounded by deeper water. From the top of the map, the first portion of dark water is short but fierce. If you are not wearing cleats you could lose your footing on the slippery flat bottom. Plain rubber bottom boots can be problematic here. Particularly earlier in the season with the growth of algea on the bottom. This is water coming from the corner area created by the rocks that create the "first" run. If you are a newbie, take your time and watch how guys cross this area and do what they do! Then, once you cross the tongue of shallow water you will encounter a sharp drop off. Some guys call it the "step" because that is exactly what it is. A straight drop off. Depending on water conditions, you may go from water just bellow the knee to nearly hip level in one step. Newbies, again, watch the old timers! Even if it takes 45 minutes, it is worth it not only for safety, but pride. Do you really want to get wet? And newbies, until you get a handle on the river, I would suggest a wading staff until you understand the nuances of the lady Grand. Once you raise up out of the step channel things are pretty flat over to the Ice Breaker, but keep in mind, there are still divots here and there that if not careful could trip you up.

This does not happen often, and I do discourage it, some years the water in Autumn is so low that some guys can actually stand on the skirt of the dam. Unless you are really a big guy, I would not suggest this. If you fall in there is a chance of getting stuck in the "boils".

I traditionally have been an "East Sider". But I have fished a few times on the West side too. What is different is that the West side tends to have a bottom that has more cobble (large rocks and pieces of broken concrete) than the East side. So just watch your step and make sure you are getting a sound footing. Also, again, not too close to the dam in the West side as if you fall in too close to the dam there is the threat of being pulled under by the current. So if a newbie, don't push it and stand within the same line as the "regulars".

Well, there you go guys. Fish hard and enjoy yourselves!

Steelie




axisgear
09-02-2008, 09:40 PM
Good info,but the map needs some updating after last winter's "Icecapades".;)

DHise
09-03-2008, 02:56 AM
MMMMMM. I always loved that little shoal between the Quarry and the Center run. Don't step off though.;)

Thanks, C. Brings back old memories.

ishootdeer
09-03-2008, 12:58 PM
Thank you! I just started going out there last year and this map helps! I caught my first steelhead ever right next to the drop off! Thanks again!

steelie
09-03-2008, 01:20 PM
Good Day,

You are welcome. Although the map is a couple of years old, it lays out the basics. There may be minor changes year to year such as a rock here or there or a tree over the dam in Spring. But these holes and runs don't change much.

Steelie

FlyFishingAttorney
09-03-2008, 03:49 PM
Steelie,

That is one of the most helpful posts I've ever seen on this site. Nice job.:)

steelie
09-03-2008, 04:24 PM
Good Day,

Thanks! I have noticed the past few seasons that inevitably someone asks about the existance of a map or other such querries about the area, so I thought, what the heck... maybe I can help.

And for as much as some people pan 6th St. I always enjoyed it. Particularly when I lived downtown by Spectrum. I could litterally walk to 6th St. Kind of fun to listen to guys brag and rag on each other. And when a pod came through! Honestly, I used to fish it all year round. I remember one of my best days. It was late November and there were only two of us on the river. And we were both standing on the rocks casting into the second run. Lake effect snow started up, and it got to the point where you could not see the highway at times. But the steelhead did not care! We did not go more than 5-15 minutes with out a hook up for a few hours! It was insane! Heavy Snow, fishing the river in the dark... I have never ever seen action like that on the Grand, ever. I can't think of the guys's name right now... Kyle maybe? Tall lanky guy who I think worked for a construction company... Bazzani? One of the East Side regulars would recognize him. Anyway, I seriously fished till I could fish no more. Something I will never forget!

Steelie

hntrbullseye
09-04-2008, 07:46 PM
hey everybody this is my first time posting a message here, but i read your guys stuff all the time it really helps me out...i'm a freshmen at GVSU so i am new to the 6th street dam but$ i plan on being down there a lot... hope to meet some of you down there

Mr. Tipper
09-05-2008, 07:48 PM
Hey My Map! I think I created that about 4 years ago. Glad people still use it. I may still have it filed on my old PC. Maybe I'll update this year or wait until the ice and such forms it back to this once again.

steelie
09-05-2008, 08:28 PM
Good Day,

Mr. Tipper, I knew you would have to come out of the woodwork on this thread! Hahahahaha... O.K. everyone, this is the real man to thank for creating the map in the first place! And really, I think it may very well still hold merit as it is.

Steelie

Whit1
09-06-2008, 12:16 AM
Back in the 1950s I grew up on Third St. between Front and Scribner streets and about 200 yds. from Sixth St. Dam. Actually it was Fourth St. Dam back then because it was situated where Fourth St. came to the river.

Back then the Quarry Hole was much larger and extended upstream closer to the dam than it does now. A few years after salmon first appeared in the Grand R. and after several unknowing anglers drowned due to stepping off the ledge and into the Quarry Hole, the powers that be filled in the top section of the hole with broken concrete. Much of it had re-rod in it and you couldn't run a line through it without snagging up.

Keep in mind that the Quarry Hole gets its name because in the early part of the 20th Century, or before, they quarried limestone out of there. The house that still sits on the SW corner of Front and Sixth St. was the old R.C. Allen house (the large building across Front St. is the old R.C. Allen Business Machines factory) and the house was built from rock quarried from the Quarry Hole.

The Center Run is much deeper and extends further downstream then it did back in the middle of the century.

When they built the concrete supports for the I-196 over pass they made two rock/gravel/sand peninsulas extending from the east and west shore. There was an opening, less than 100 yds wide just west of the second and third support structure of the e-way to allow water to flow through. At the time this was a GREAT spot to fish for walleyes, catfish, and bass. A few steelheads were also caught. The walleyes tended to be large, very large. This was in the early to mid 60s and a few years before the introduction of salmon in Michigan.

That little tongue of deeper water jutting to the north from the overpass used to be much larger and deeper and made for VERY tricky wading from upstream. It was also a bit further to the west and was created by the opening in the construction peninsulas that I mention above.

What you younsters don't realize, except for you regulars in MS who have seen posts by those of us who grew up in GR back then, is the fact that there was a power canal on the West Side and paralleling the river from the dam all the way downstream to the old RR. bridge below Pearl St. There was a spit of wooded, overgrown land between the river and the canal that we called The Island. It was a hangout for bums/hobos and kids looking for river adventures as well as sucker netters in the spring.

I wish I had some photos of the area of the Fish Ladder from back then so you could see what that looked like. It was quite interesting, but of course as kids we took it for granted.

There was also a power canal on the east side, but that was just about gone when I was a kid and only have bare memories of the head of the canal as it left the river.

Boardman Brookies
09-06-2008, 12:46 AM
Excellent post. I have only fished there a dozen times or so but this is great info! I will be down there in a few weeks and take this knowledge with me, many thanks!

Ultra-Light
09-06-2008, 04:47 AM
I applaud the effort of one's safety with provided map above, but it appears to be currently out of date a wee bit. Here is the current up-to-date map of the 6th St. Dam regarding the new & improved rock movement placements.

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj305/Ultra-Light/Updated6thStMap.jpg

Notice the hook or 'Fish Trap' as some would say located near the upper middle run. Once the water settles down from the previous rains, one has the free will to go check it out for themselves. (**Warning**, try not to trip on any rocks) After the last 2 major ice jams, the only thing I can say is... Good ole' mother nature moved these rocks in a mysterious way.... :lol:

steelie
09-13-2008, 07:06 PM
Good Day,

Ultra-light, can you say Grand River Corps of Engineers? Haha... Honestly I wish these guys would just leave well enough alone.

Steelie

Frogfish101
09-13-2008, 08:55 PM
Notice the hook or 'Fish Trap' as some would say located near the upper middle run. Once the water settles down from the previous rains, one has the free will to go check it out for themselves. (**Warning**, try not to trip on any rocks) After the last 2 major ice jams, the only thing I can say is... Good ole' mother nature moved these rocks in a mysterious way.... :lol:

:lol::lol: