Harbor Club on fire.

[Canuck136]

http://www.lakestclair.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=57246

[salmonslammer]

Whole NE building is a total loss.... Have a couple friends that live there....they werent home @ the time...thank god!!
Apperantly everyone made it out OK but there were some pets lost..

Guess it started on the roof when a roofer was making repairs...

28 families lost it all.... couldnt imagine it.

[MIfishinGuy]

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/17256992/detail.html

didnt see this thread, ill delete the one i made.

thank god no one got hurt. (sorry to hear about their pets though)

[huntingmaniac45]

Yeah I have a buddy that lives there, he was at work, when he came home there was nothing left. Total loss, he only has the clothes he was wearing.

[Canuck136]

Yeah I have a buddy that lives there, he was at work, when he came home there was nothing left. Total loss, he only has the clothes he was wearing.

Sorry to hear that Jim. I'm glad he's ok tho.

[Mark Sylvester]

As a firefighter, I have to say that in MY OPINION something had to have gone wrong there for them to have lost the entire bldg.
My guess is that they were not able to get water in a timely manner.

[salmonslammer]

I wonder how much time was lost when the roofer went back down and tried to put it out himself...
Media did say they had some sort of pressure problems.

Jim....let me know if ur buddy can use some T shirts...got a pile of them from the summer shows out @ the knob.

[mwp]

They did have water pressure problems,they ended up sucking water from the lake!!

[Trollin' Dave]

I work right down the streeet from there and saw everything happen. It was one of the worst things that I have ever seen. The fire burned for about 10 minutes before any fire trucks arrived on scene, but in their defense they were on another fire at the time the call came in. The fire spread faster than they could get water on it, and not to mention that the fire spread to the back side of the building along the spillway and when it did that there was no easy way to get water on it, until the boats arrived. I watched a good part of it from the Jefferson spillway bridge until we were removed from the bridge so that they could pump water from the spillway. I truly believe that they did everything they could to save the building. There were 7 of the fine fire fighting departments form the area and they all did everything they could for hours. I am deeply sympathetic for all that lost everything, including family members in the form of pets. The apartments that I work for has taken in quite a few of the victims, and I can't imagine what they are feeling.

Dave

[Mark Sylvester]

They did have water pressure problems,they ended up sucking water from the lake!!


"Drafting" can be difficult if not practiced! I would have to think that the firefighters in Harrison Twp. would be proficient...seeing that they are a "Waterfront Community".

I know that we have had to use it in Hamtramck...and we don't even have any water to draft from!!!
We sucked a pit full of water dry to enable us to retrieve the body of a small child that was missing. Yep...thats where we found him...Very sad day for me!:(

[symen696]

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Someone wanna explain this picture to me, my boss took it Im just wondering why this is happening? Should the firefighter in full gear be fighting the fire. By the way, have a bunch of good pics of fire fighters doing a awsome job! They tried hard, but being a contractor myself I know what a 1200 degree torch can do. Doesnt take much to start a rapid moving fire with a torch that throws a 5 foot flame. As for the guy trying to put it out himself, all the roofers I know would have done the same thing except the exstingusher would have been within a arms reach. Accidents do happen usually do to poor planning. This accident is extremely unfourtunate for all invlolved. My prayers go out to all those affected.

[symen696]

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Just a couple photos of some brave ones, gotta give credit to all who are willing to do that work.

[Firemedic]

As a firefighter, I have to say that in MY OPINION something had to have gone wrong there for them to have lost the entire bldg.
My guess is that they were not able to get water in a timely manner.

Maybe the lack of firestops in the attic area had a major role to play for such a tremendous flame spread across the roof?

[Mark Sylvester]

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Just a couple photos of some brave ones, gotta give credit to all who are willing to do that work.

THANK YOU!;)

Maybe the lack of fire stops in the attic area had a major role to play for such a tremendous flame spread across the roof?

I had the opportunity to talk with some guys from Chesterfield, and they stated that there was a common cock loft with some fire stops but they were compromised due to contractors making holes for plumbing and electrical and such. Then naturally some of the holes were left unsealed. Common practice from my experience.

[salmonslammer]

Should the firefighter in full gear be fighting the fire.

Looks likes he's on the radio... hard to say

Heck we were coming back from FL this spring and the guy in front of us has a heart attack while we were taxing to the runway....they got on the intercom and asked if there was any medical personal on board....Best they could come up with was a rigger(me) and a CNA...

We worked on him for 12-15 minutes before we got back to the gate and the EMTs showed up...They kinda watched for a minute and I asked them if they wanted to take over...guy says "no..looks like ur doing a good job". :yikes:

and they never did take over....

guy lived though, must have done something right:D




Looks like everything worked out best as possible......the complex found alternative housing for all the tenants...tons of donations came in from the community and the only casulitys were 2 cats....even the rabbit made it out ok:) Sure could've been alot worse.


If you rent and don't have insurance...u might want to look into it. only 3 apts had it and its cheap too...I hooked a friend of mine up that lives in the building across the parking lot....$210 a year for 50k of coverage.

[Slick fishing]

I feel for these people but dang it why did more then 80% of these renters not have insurance??????????????????? I dont want to come off mean but it does not cost that much for the insurance and with out it your left with nothing but the shirt on your back.. Cya Slick

[Mark Sylvester]

In this tough econimy people are cutting back and taking a chance on things like insurance.
Easy decision to make if you need meds and you can't afford both!~
Mark

[Slick fishing]

I was in that type of situation 23 some odd years ago, no health insurance a constant payment plan with the hospitals because I have a bunch of health issues and could barley afford the meds I needed but I would not in a second go with out home owners insurance,even on my little 900sq foot home..

I would not even think of loseing everything I work so hard for, no not everyone circunstance is the same but and I am not making light of this tragedy but I hate to see people lose everything when there is such a easy solution.. Cya Slick

[Mark Sylvester]

I agree. I would never live anywhere without insurance. But in all honesty,and I have seen the trend first hand as a firefighter,most people live in a disposable world, so to speak.
Nobody owns anything any more. It's all rent to own..lease cars W/O ins. etc. etc.
They will start over with out some valuables like pictures that could not be replaced regardless of how much ins. you have.
People do not or can not set "Roots" due to them not having the knowledge on how to organize and run an "established household" in this economy and that is sad!
Are there no classes in our school systems that teach "home economics" anymore?

[Slick fishing]

I agree. I would never live anywhere without insurance. But in all honesty,and I have seen the trend first hand as a firefighter,most people live in a disposable world, so to speak.
Nobody owns anything any more. It's all rent to own..lease cars W/O ins. etc. etc.
They will start over with out some valuables like pictures that could not be replaced regardless of how much ins. you have.
People do not or can not set "Roots" due to them not having the knowledge on how to organize and run an "established household" in this economy and that is sad!
Are there no classes in our school systems that teach "home economics" anymore?

I have to agree because we do not educate or kids in the simple things to managing a house hold in school, I dont understand it at all.. As for renting, waste of money invest in yourself and not make some one else rich.. Cya Slick