Problem with release

[basskiller46]

I started shooting my bow about 2 weeks and sighted it in to where i can get a 3 inch group from 10 yards. The problem was that i was shooting without a release and now i got one today and i miss by about a foot. Should i sight it in again? Also what type of arrow rest would you guys recomend.

Thanks

[backstrap bill]

Figure out whether you want to shoot with a release or with fingers and stick with one. You cant alternate between the two because it wont be the same. I use a limb driver arrow rest myself, it is a drop away style and works great.

[bigcountrysg]

Sometimes when you go from fingers to release, you will have to resight the bow in.

Now the question is this are you 1 ft above the target or 1ft below the target, 1ft left, 1ft right. It could be technique, you may need to have the drawlength shortend because of the release. If I don't shoot with a release I would not be able to shoot a compound. Because none on the market have a long enough draw length for me to shoot with fingers.

[jjc155]

For sure your anchor point changed and likely pretty drastically. Like mentioned above, pick a method and stick with it. Effective draw length (not the physical DL of the bow, but how your arm/shoulder/back react to the DL if that makes sense) changed too.

I shoot with a release and would likely miss what I was aiming at if I tried to shoot fingers.

Remember that form in archery is about the most important thing there is. I have spent the better part of about 7 years working on my form:yikes:

As for rests, it all depends on what your preferences are. I shoot a drop away (Trophy ridge Drop Zone) because I get the best arrow flight I can that way. I went through about 5 different rests over the years finding one that truely was what I wanted.

Hope this helps
J-

[basskiller46]

I think i will take the release back and shoot with my fingers. I feel like i have bad control with the release .Also is a whisker biscuit a good rest?

[bigcountrysg]

I think i will take the release back and shoot with my fingers. I feel like i have bad control with the release .Also is a whisker biscuit a good rest?


You can shoot with your fingers if that is how you feel most comfortable. Being you are just starting out this maybe the best way you should go for now. Then maybe during the next off-season you can go back to the release. It maybe the paticular release though, may just not be the one for you.

As for the WB (whisker biscuit). I have been using the WB since it was introduced to the market. Now I love this rest for hunting. I would not use anything else for hunting. But if I was a trophy target competetion shooter. I would probablly go with something different.

It is all about set up. If you take the time and fine tune the WB to your bow it will work great for you. I took about 2 hours of shooting and adjusting one day to make my wb be able to robin hood arrows.

[CHASINEYES]

I think i will take the release back and shoot with my fingers. I feel like i have bad control with the release .Also is a whisker biscuit a good rest?

I used to shoot without a release. They can be very difficult (akward) in the beginning.( arrows flying half draw, bloody nose ) Now I cant shoot my compound without one.

As for the wisker biscket, I have not used one. I know others who are very happy with them.

[wildcoy73]

The release is an option. What I have found out that most run to a discount store to buy a release the first time and with that release the string will hang up on them. I did it one night when I lost mine. would hit the trigger and nothin happen untill I went to let the bow down and the arrow went sailing. I found the string was catching on it. took a file and reworked it and made it worked smooth. But the next day I made a run to get a good release again.

[bersh]

I think i will take the release back and shoot with my fingers. I feel like i have bad control with the release .Also is a whisker biscuit a good rest?

I think it is worth practicing a bit more with the release, as the benefits far outweigh the drawbacks. For me, I feel that I am able to draw the bow back easier with a release, as you're spreading the force out over a much greater area. Also, this helps for you to be able to hold the bow at full draw for a lot longer period of time. Finally, it's a lot easier to get your form down to where you are releasing the arrow the same way every time. If you stick with the release, you should have the draw length changed. Another thing you should do is have a string loop put on. Don't go to Walmart and buy one of those cheesy metal loops, as they cause more problems and potential harm to your bow than any good. A simple string loop tied on properly is cheap and is all you need.

As far as the biscuit goes, I think they are the ultimate hunting rest. Nothing really to go wrong with them, they have even fletching contact, and for many they are very accurate. The only downside is that it will wear out your fletching quicker, and there can be some noise on the draw, depending on the arrow you use. I use Beman ICS/Easton Epic/Cabelas Stalker Extreme (all the same arrow) and they have a very smooth finish on them that pretty much eliminates noise while drawing.

[Kelly Johnson]

Shooting a release will get you better results quicker.

As case can be made that they're inherently more accurate and though I've been "spanked" on the range by finger shooters once or twice they put a LOT more time into it than what I do.

The rest will depend on whether your shooting fingers or a release.

Drop TM hunters (regular prong rests) usually outperform drop aways with fingers. The Biscuit can be shot both ways though.

[basskiller46]

I would shoot with the release but i cant shorten my draw length and it is hard to pull back with the release. I will shoot with the release again today
and post how it went.

[bigcountrysg]

Where in Oakland County do you live. I strongly suggest you go to a pro-shop. Have them take a look at you when your at full draw with the release. You would be surprised what a pro-shop with a good tech can do for your bow.

[upperlimits]

I still shoot with fingers and love it.just do what works best for you.

[bigsablemike]

I think i will take the release back and shoot with my fingers. I feel like i have bad control with the release .Also is a whisker biscuit a good rest?

i would think that a biscuit would be a horrible rest to shoot with fingers.an arrow flexes vertically when released with a release.with the fingers it flexes horizontally.which style you shoot determines what rest would be right.a mech release is much more consistant which leads to better accurracy.stay with the rlease,soon it will become automatic.

on second thought i think a whisker biscuit is a horrible rest no matter how you let the arrow fly.

[basskiller46]

I have been shooting for a couple of days and i measured the distance is was not ten yards it was 13 and i get about a 3inch group for an average then when i go up to 20 yards i have like a foot grouping. I cant get a steady shot when move back further.

[bersh]

I have been shooting for a couple of days and i measured the distance is was not ten yards it was 13 and i get about a 3inch group for an average then when i go up to 20 yards i have like a foot grouping. I cant get a steady shot when move back further.

This is shooting without the release I assume?

[basskiller46]

This is shooting without the release I assume?
Yes, Also I know that I don't have that great of vision from a distance would getting glasses help?

[basskiller46]

Never mind on the glasses i finaly took out my release today and adjusted my bow to it. And i got 3 inch groupings at 20 yards and about 1.5 at 13 yards.

[ArcticcatMan]

Never mind on the glasses i finaly took out my release today and adjusted my bow to it. And i got 3 inch groupings at 20 yards and about 1.5 at 13 yards.

Start with the basics. Do you have the right rest. usually a 2 prong will work just fine. Are your arrows turned so the fletching doesn't hit the arrow rest as it comes forward. Is your draw length correct? Is your arrow length correct? Do you have some sort of anchor in the rear like a kisser, a peep sight or both? What release are you using? The best hunting release is the Win Free Flight release. It doesn't pull on your wrist, it turns your hand in an east-west (Motorcycle handle bar) type grip which makes you use upper back muscles and you can pull back more weight and it doesn't tear up your string quickly. Is your front sight stable/tight and not moving. Is your bow stable or at least fall forward slightly after you release the string? Is your nock in the right position? Is you arrow rest in the right position? When you hold your string back are you "pinching a penny between your shoulder blades"? Every little thing you can do to your bow set-up and shooting technique will help tighten your groups little by little. If you're unsure, ask someone knowledgeable for help or go visit a bow shop. Don't go back to fingers. Use a release. I usually shoot a couple of arrows every year using my fingers just to practice in case my release were to break for some reason while I was on the stand. I basically pull it back with 2 or 3 fingers and hold it with 1 finger for about 2 seconds before I let go. If i had a deer relatvely close, I would be confident shooting my bow this way. Anything over 25 yards and I wouldn't chance it. I can still hit a pie plate at 30 yards shooting with a "1 finger release" (I pull 74 lbs), but that isn't good enough in my book to take a shot at a deer at that distance.

[bucksnbows]

Never mind on the glasses i finaly took out my release today and adjusted my bow to it. And i got 3 inch groupings at 20 yards and about 1.5 at 13 yards.

When ever having problems look at yur bow first. If your bow isn't tuned properly yu will not have good groups. If you don't have the skills to solve the problem yourself take it to a pro shop. Another piece advice I can give you and probably alot of other hunters is DON'T WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE TO START SHOOTING YOUR BOW. Alot of guys do this and then when they run into problems they are pressed for time to fix it. And if your bow requires work from a shop they(the pro shop) will be very busy usually starting around mid July. The closer to the season the busier they get and the longer they will have to keep your bow sometimes. I shoot all year (I have a ten yard range in my basement) this keeps my muscles in shape for shooting. All you have to do is shoot a few arrows a week all year and yu should stay in good form.