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swampbuck
07-14-2008, 09:33 PM
Heres the talking points they list on theyre site. They dont look to difficult to shoot down;)

Here some talking point to be used when you contact your Senator:
1. The crossbow is not archery equipment. Michigan’s archery deer season was established in 1937 for hunting with hand-held bows. In 1940, the Attorney General ruled that a crossbow is not a hand held bow and, therefore, not legal for archery deer hunting.
2. Crossbows in bow season do not retain and recruit hunters as promised. Hunter numbers, both young and old, are also declining in states like Arkansas and Ohio where crossbows are allowed during the bow season.
3. Allowing Crossbows in the archery deer season of a major deer producing state like Michigan will have a detrimental impact on all deer hunting seasons, including the archery season. Firearm hunters already complain that too many bucks are taken before November 15.
4. The archery deer season combines maximum hunter participation with minimum resource impact, a concept that should be valued, preserved and protected for future generations to enjoy.
5. Both the Social Security Administration and AARP agree that age is not a disability. Seniors are healthier and living longer that at any time in history. For those who are physically unable to use conventional archery equipment, Michigan has a system in place that provides both crossbow and modified bow options.
6. The Michigan United Conservation Clubs (MUCC) is opposed the allowing crossbows in the archery deer season. For each of the past six years, pro crossbow resolutions have failed to be adopted at the annual convention. Per Michigan United Conservation Clubs (MUCC) Policy, "MUCC supports long archery seasons for deer that provide generous recreational opportunity and days afield with relatively low impact on the resource. We (MUCC) support crossbow hunting during firearm seasons only, not in conflict with archery seasons. Because ease of use and effectiveness approaches that of a firearm, crossbow hunters need less time afield for each deer taken than archers and would threaten the length, quality, and value of the archery seasons."



I am going to e-mail the MUCC about that last one, Even though the recent vote was a few points shy of 66%, they definately had a majority supporting crossbows. The mucc and mbha should remove that one.

Thats another talking point for the senate meeting.




Munsterlndr
07-14-2008, 09:38 PM
Please be sure to thank them for providing us with their list of talking points. :lol::lol::lol:

swampbuck
07-14-2008, 09:43 PM
I thought about that also:lol:.

swoosh
07-14-2008, 09:45 PM
W-T-F

crossbow hunters need less time afield for each deer taken than archers and would threaten the length, quality, and value of the archery seasons."


:lol:

That is by far the dumbest statement I have ever read, do these guys know how dumb they sound?

So a deer knows I have an Xbow, I can just hear them

"Look that dude has a bow, don't walk in front of him, it's to early" " lets walk by this xbow hunter, he's allowed to shoot a deer early":dizzy:

Tell you what MBHA more deer die on Oct 1st with their heads in a bait pile than an army of xbows hunters could kill.

I am sure most of the MBH "HUNTERS" support baiting:SHOCKED:

GuT_PiLe
07-14-2008, 10:03 PM
beat that horse some more.

i'd say its just about looking like soup...lol

Terry Williams
07-14-2008, 10:07 PM
Some of you guys must not have cable:lol:

swoosh
07-14-2008, 10:10 PM
Some of you guys must not have cable:lol:

Damn kid is watching a video:lol: The wife thinks I am working;)

Terry Williams
07-14-2008, 10:21 PM
You guys can cut and paste our talking points, but you'll never know the secret handshake

swoosh
07-14-2008, 10:27 PM
You guys can cut and paste our talking points, but you'll never know the secret handshake

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q304/swooshjr/losersign.jpg

Just a guess:lol:

Munsterlndr
07-14-2008, 10:28 PM
We also don't know for sure about that secret initiation thing with the goat (although we've heard rumors from disgruntled ex-members) but some things are probably better left unknown! :yikes: :lol:

Terry Williams
07-14-2008, 10:31 PM
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q304/swooshjr/losersign.jpg

Just a guess:lol:



Close but no cigar thats the international sign for the Xbowwhinebabies international:lol:


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swoosh
07-14-2008, 10:33 PM
Good night Terry:lol:

I owe you a beer, and yes I can sit down and have a beer with you or anyone who loves hunting.

swampbuck
07-14-2008, 10:38 PM
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q304/swooshjr/losersign.jpg

Just a guess:lol:

:lol: I damn near pissed myself on that one! ROTFLMAO:lol::lol:

Terry Williams
07-14-2008, 10:39 PM
We also don't know for sure about that secret initiation thing with the goat (although we've heard rumors from disgruntled ex-members) but some things are probably better left unknown! :yikes: :lol:

Is that why you don't like MBH you old goat:confused::lol:

boehr
07-15-2008, 10:29 AM
Another off topic that rapidly became useless.