Kaufman Stonefly

[FlyGirl]

Anyone have a good pattern for this? I have seen this tied many different ways... and it was a more complicated pattern that worked for me.

I am not one to use enamel on anything, but if you know any tricks to avoid this for the wing casings... let me know.

[FlyGirl]

Anyone? Anyone? People are viewing this thread but I AIN'T GETTIN NO RESPONSE!

Is it that you boys don't like a woman tying flies? MmmmmHmmmmm I see how it is!:lol:

[Firemedic]

Use mottled Thin Skinz for the wingcase instead.

[Carpmaster]

Anyone? Anyone? People are viewing this thread but I AIN'T GETTIN NO RESPONSE!

Is it that you boys don't like a woman tying flies? MmmmmHmmmmm I see how it is!:lol:

Actually that is cool! Chicks + Fishing = Hot!:evilsmile I actually checked this thread to see if it was a recipe or pics since i am a beginner fly fisher! Welcome to the site! Good luck!

[FlyGirl]

I have been fly fishing for a few years, okay, maybe a lot... tying flies for about 7 years. I have a pattern for this... but the dubbing wasn't what I have seen on some more complicated patterns. If you want the simple pattern... let me know.

I am thinking I could figure it out... but was wondering if anyone else had it already.



Actually that is cool! Chicks + Fishing = Hot!:evilsmile I actually checked this thread to see if it was a recipe or pics since i am a beginner fly fisher! Welcome to the site! Good luck!

[Chromedoggy]

A couple of tips
Do a body build up with a strand of black yarn to create a cigar shape body, this makes for less dubbing and a more consistant shape.
Kaufmanns blend Black Stone dub in a dubbing loop makes a buggy thorax.
As stated above, mottled oak thin skin makes a great wingcase. Tie in at back of thorax creating the first wing, dub 2 wraps, fold thin skin back over rear wing and fold over forward to create middle wing. Dub 2 wraps. Fold back remaining thin skin, cut front wing in v shape.
Sorry if the explanation is confusing

[FlyGirl]

No, it's great. I got it.

I have seen this with black dubbing and a rainbow/black dubbing.

I have used thin skin before.... but pattern I have and flies I have bought didn't call for it....

Also, I have had seasoned fly fishers tell me this fly just takes too much time... why bother? Is this the general feeling? Any recommendations on a substitute?

I actually like sitting down and taking time to make stuff look good and mimic the real deal.... but sometimes think I should focus on time out on the river instead.



A couple of tips
Do a body build up with a strand of black yarn to create a cigar shape body, this makes for less dubbing and a more consistant shape.
Kaufmanns blend Black Stone dub in a dubbing loop makes a buggy thorax.
As stated above, mottled oak thin skin makes a great wingcase. Tie in at back of thorax creating the first wing, dub 2 wraps, fold thin skin back over rear wing and fold over forward to create middle wing. Dub 2 wraps. Fold back remaining thin skin, cut front wing in v shape.
Sorry if the explanation is confusing

[Huron River Dan]

To the group FlyGirl...I like turkey for the wingcase, then if you want a little nail polish.

Dan

[drgulian]

Kaufmann Stones do have a lot of variations. Beadhead, rubberlegs, synthetic wing case etc. I think they catch more fisherman than fish, but, whatever...

A friend of mine used to tie a stone fly pattern he called the Universal Soldier. He would tie in entire marabou feathers for the wingcases and then cut them off. The fly looked kinda knappy, but when you got it wet, it looked awsome. It caught a lot of salmon and steelhead too.

If you really want to do the Kaufmann style stones then buy the Renzetti wing case burning templates. Or PM your mailing address and I'll loan them to you for as long as needed.

Good luck and have fun.

[DHise]

Just spray a whole turkey feather with a product called Feather Tough Fixative (and let it dry). It makes it simple to work with turkey. The mottled Thin Skin is nice though.

Can also use mohair to build up the abdomen.

[FlyGirl]

Where may I find this stuff? Cabela's? Any fly fishing shop? The Feather Tough Fixative that is...


Just spray a whole turkey feather with a product called Feather Tough Fixative (and let it dry). It makes it simple to work with turkey. The mottled Thin Skin is nice though.

Can also use mohair to build up the abdomen.

[tommytubular]

This was discussed in a thread recently...

and BTW... welcome to the forums

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235475

[Chromedoggy]

Krylon Workable Fixatif is available in the Wal-Mart art dept.

[FlyGirl]

I'm sorry, I don't shop at Wal-Mart... but thanks! I will check Meijer and others for the same stuff.

Thanks for the help!



Krylon Workable Fixatif is available in the Wal-Mart art dept.

[FlyGirl]

Thanks for the welcome! I appreciate it. I have been on MS for a while tho. Loved the information... wanted to put myself out there more with some questions.



This was discussed in a thread recently...

and BTW... welcome to the forums

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/showthread.php?t=235475

[Huron River Dan]

You should be able to find the Krylon at any craft store...

Dan

[Dave]

Anyone? Anyone? People are viewing this thread but I AIN'T GETTIN NO RESPONSE!

Is it that you boys don't like a woman tying flies? MmmmmHmmmmm I see how it is!:lol:

There is nothing wrong with female fly fishers or fly tier's. We have at least 3 gals in the GRFT here is Grand Rapids. Believe me these gals can hold there own and then some when it comes to both:woohoo1: tying and fishing.
BTW I use kralon they use for coat paintings I think. I get it at Michael's. You want to do this outside,with the wind. I get a bunch of turkey feathers from the fly shop in the fall. Treat them, then I'm set for the tying season. Try it , it works good.:coolgleam

[DHise]

Some of the best tyers in the world are women. In fact, most of the production flies from Umpqua and Orvis are tied by women.