Who's the better.....

[Bulletproof]

more rounded, skilled tournament fisherman--walleye or bass guy?

[waterfoul]

Bass Guys!! I've seen a pretty good walleye angler struggle to catch a decent bass when bass fishing!! Aint that right Sea Nympho????? :D

Yet the few times I've been in his boat for walleye I've held my own. :D

[Gone Fishing]

Bass fishing is for guys that can't catch edible fish! :p :lol: ;)

[waterfoul]

Bass fishing is for guys that can't catch edible fish! :p :lol: ;)

Then what are Musky fishermen??? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

:D

[Jason Ammerman]

No Live Bait! No Trolling! Nough Said!

[Jnamo]

Bass, no question....

[thedude]

i think a lot of people give bass a bad name cuz they are used to catching left and right out of a farm pond.. or lake erie:lol:

put a bass guy on a tough walleye bite and he will likely fail, put a walleye guy on a tough bass bite.. he will likely fail too. I think the only thing that puts a bass guy on top is no live bait.

[sea nympho]

Bass fishing is for guys that can't catch edible fish! :p :lol: ;)

Like catfish!! :evilsmile

more rounded, skilled tournament fisherman--walleye or bass guy?

Bass guys.

[Gone Fishing]

Then what are Musky fishermen??? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

:D

I'll say one thing, those Bass are great live bait for Muskies! :p :lol: ;) BTW, how big do Bass get?

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/528/Muskie_mount.jpg

[ESOX]

Walleye are usually tougher to pattern. Walleye guys have to be more rounded.
Let me rephrase that, mid summer walleye are just plain picky little sissies that are darned near impossible to pattern. I love it when I hear on the squawk box that the hot bite is on a little pink headed jig dressed in a tu-tu with an emerald tiara... I just don't have any on board for some reason. May as well go play with the bass and remind myself that ignorance is bliss....:lol:

[WALLEYE MIKE]

Walleye are usually tougher to pattern. Walleye guys have to be more rounded.


You got that right. :lol:

Bass are the easiest fish to catch. Especially smallmouth on the pond.

[Jnamo]

You got that right. :lol:

Bass are the easiest fish to catch. Especially smallmouth on the pond.

I would smallies would be easy to catch on one of (if not the, in regards to size and numbers) the greatest smallmouth lakes in the world...

Kind of a Captain Obvious statement....from a Walleye guy of course!

LOL!!!

[waterfoul]

I'll say one thing, those Bass are great live bait for Muskies! :p :lol: ;) BTW, how big do Bass get?



Not as big as Musky!

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg171/waterfoul24/Muskie_trip_June_2_011.jpg

[Jason Ammerman]

I have fished with some of the best walleye fisherman in the state, between the two of them they have won 3 boats on the PWT tour. every time I have fished with them I kicked there butts jigging on the sag, and detroit river. as far as being versitile how many walleye fisherman have rods strung with 6lb to 65lb line, rods that range from 6' light to 8' extra heavy. and in one day fish from 12" of water to 30'. Walley are tough to catch? Try freemont or hardy they seem as easy to catch as the pike just toss a jerk bait.

[Gone Fishing]

more rounded, skilled tournament fisherman--walleye or bass guy?
You forgot Perch tournament fisherman! :p ;) Now those guys are good! :lol:

[waterfoul]

You forgot Perch tournament fisherman! :p ;) Now those guys are good! :lol:


They have tournaments to catch baitfish??? :confused::confused:

:lol:

[UNREEL]

I'll say one thing, those Bass are great live bait for Muskies! :p :lol: ;) BTW, how big do Bass get?

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/528/Muskie_mount.jpg

How big was the bass found in the belly of that pig? Kinda funny that a guy's bass tournament can come to an end with one chomp from a REAL fish like that!!

[Jnamo]

http://image48.webshots.com/48/3/59/83/376535983iCgpCT_ph.jpg

Yeah, but my fish will eat yours for breakfast...So I must be a better fisherman......

Ahh yes, the fish of 10,000 casts. Will eat anything in the lake, you just have to chance your odds of trolling by one.....

I'll take my bass! Even if they do get eatin' up...

:D

(fun debate, good topic)

[UNREEL]

Being a better fisherman is NOT what I meant by that.......

[chamookman]

I think the tag at the bottom of My replies says it all :hide: :rolleyes:. C-man

[waterfoul]

[quote=chamookman;2062603]I think the tag at the bottom of My replies says it all :hide: :rolleyes:. C-man[/quote

And I know a guy who I would reverse the two with! Walleye... fish for people who can't catch bass!! LOL!!! :lol:

[WALLEYE MIKE]

I think the tag at the bottom of My replies says it all :hide: :rolleyes:. C-man


Yup, your right!!!:lol:

[spiritofthewild_06]

You guys are forgeting something...Chicks dig Bassfisherman:evilsmile

[bassdisaster]

Bass For sure, BUT! I am a FISHERMAN!
Dont really matter to me the species!
Trout, Steelhead's, Perch, bluegills, Pike, Walleye, BASS, and
even SUCKERS in the spring, If it swims I fish for it!
Who would be the better fisherman Eye guys or bass guys,
Id have to say the well rounded angler who fishes for mulitple species is the better FISHERMAN!!

[fishinmachine2]

Whats a Bass?? Do we have those in Michigan??:lol::lol::lol::corkysm55:corkysm55

Scott

[Southend517]

you already know Bass are just for guys that can't catch walleyes...

I'm going to join the goby tour this summer.

GoBY sLaYiN' thIs SummER.


http://cars.er.usgs.gov/posters/Coastal_Ecology/goby_image6a.jpg

[waterfoul]

Bass For sure, BUT! I am a FISHERMAN!
Dont really matter to me the species!
Trout, Steelhead's, Perch, bluegills, Pike, Walleye, BASS, and
even SUCKERS in the spring, If it swims I fish for it!
Who would be the better fisherman Eye guys or bass guys,
Id have to say the well rounded angler who fishes for mulitple species is the better FISHERMAN!!


I would say I have to agree with this... multi-species anglers are the most rounded.

So, heading down for some steelies right now. Then hitting the Maumee next week for eyes... and while we're down there we're going to hit a trout stream too. As soon as the ice is gone it's PIKE SEASON!!!! Carp in the summer are a blast!!!

[chamookman]

A real "well rounded" fisherman ice fishes too :tdo12::lol::lol::lol:C-man

[waterfoul]

A real "well rounded" fisherman ice fishes too :tdo12::lol::lol::lol:C-man


Hey, I went ice fishing 3 times this year!!! ;)

[icefishermanmark]

It all depends on the skill level of the fisherman. Obviously KVD is more skilled than almost any walleye fisherman on this site. While at the same time Mark Martin is probably more skilled than most bass fisherman here. Bass fishermen catch walleye when targeting bass, and walleye fishermen catch bass when targeting walleye. Both are great anglers. And now that bas fisherman are learning to fish deep water (dragging the river, drop-shotting and jigging) they're becoming much more rounded. I'm biased and will say bass fishermen, becasue we have to deal with so much $h!t in our little bass boats while walleye fishermen ride around in their Cadillacs:lol:.

[Jnamo]

Who's MarK Martin? Doesn't he drive a car?

[waterfoul]

Who's MarK Martin? Doesn't he drive a car?

Yeah, I think so! :lol:

[tubejig]

Both are fun to catch and one makes for great groceries. Easy answer there.

Goby's were mentioned earlier and I want in on that action!!

[Spoon Fed]

Salmon fisherman are better:D:D:hide:

[WhitetailCountryboy]

there both all around fun fish winter time imm all about the walleye summer time its time for some intense bassfishing

[UNREEL]

Salmon fisherman are better:D:D:hide:
I was waiting for someone to break the ice with that one. If only salmon were found underneath every lily pad and fallen log.....

[fishinmachine2]

Who's MarK Martin? Doesn't he drive a car?

I was thinking the samething!!! Hes won more races then walleye tournaments, thats for sure!!:lol::lol::lol:

Scott

[Jason Ammerman]

Salmon are for guys that can't cast!:lol:

[waterfoul]

Well, I had to cast to catch this fish, and it pulled harder than any fish I've ever caught.


http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg171/waterfoul24/HUGEsalmon1.jpg?t=1206812392

[Jason Ammerman]

WOW thats a big sucker nice fish too.:lol:

[Gone Fishing]

Bass, Walleye and Salmon……………..merely childs play! Well at least for this kid. :p ;)

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/533/100_0146.JPG

http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/photopost/data/533/100_0164.JPG

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[WALLEYE MIKE]

Hey John. A true test for a good fisherman (walleye) is one who can catch walleyes with GULP or other plastics and leave the real stuff at the baitstore.:lol:

[Gone Fishing]

Hey John. A true test for a good fisherman (walleye) is one who can catch walleyes with GULP or other plastics and leave the real stuff at the baitstore.:lol:

Piece of cake Mike, I've done that............................................ once anyway! :p

[Contender]

fooling a 15" walleye to eat a 10" Nils...

that's better than gulp or minnows!

[Jnamo]

Whats a Walleye?

[UNREEL]

John....now thats fishin..........................tag and release..........

[UNREEL]

fooling a 15" walleye to eat a 10" Nils...

that's better than gulp or minnows!
Ya but the smallmouth guys should chime in here....a big nils an awesome trophy smally bait......the biggest smallmouth i've ever saw took a nils 9" and impaled it at 4mph....do that with a tube jig guys....

[walleyeman2006]

.....smallies and walleye.....thats a toss up....and just in general most pro s could switch back and forth with those two species very easy........large mouth are a different animal......and that question depends totally on the body of water........and time of year...

now salmon or walleye guys ......thats an easy question lol.....

[waterfoul]

.....smallies and walleye.....thats a toss up....and just in general most pro s could switch back and forth with those two species very easy........large mouth are a different animal......and that question depends totally on the body of water........and time of year...

now salmon or walleye guys ......thats an easy question lol.....

So what are you really saying??? What was your vote?? The question was bass or walleye.... pick one!!!


BASS!!!! Anyone can catch a 4 lb walleye. Not anyone can catch 4 lb bass.

[Lucky Dog]

This topic sounds like the basis for a MS combo tournament. Weigh four fish,2 wally's and 2 bass. Settle this argument on the water, because it will never be settled on this forum.:)

I would predict a walleye angler win by he way.;)

[Jason Ammerman]

I'm all for that 2 rules no live bait or trolling,

[waterfoul]

I'm all for that 2 rules no live bait or trolling,


Hardy or Fremont. Let's do it!!!

[Jnamo]

Go to St. Clair.

1-Walleye (to eat after)
1-Smallie
1-Largehead

Heaviest combined weight wins.

No live bait, no trolling...

Sounds like fun!!!

[waterfoul]

Go to St. Clair.

1-Walleye (to eat after)
1-Smallie
1-Largehead

Heaviest combined weight wins.

No live bait, no trolling...

Sounds like fun!!!

My last trip there... got a 4+ pound largemouth and a 5+ pound smallmouth. So who wants to be my backseater to get that walleye??? :lol:

[BronZeBaK]

The ones who don't rely on trolling;)

[bigfisherman]

The best fisherman is some that can not only cast, jig, but fish in many situations and conditions and gues what trolling is one of those as well as live bait. A guy that can do all those techniques well will be able to switch species very easily just by adjusting to that particular species habits and prey base. So of the two I think that the walleye angler would win out. I am sure that certian walleye situations would be better geared towards a bass angler like casting cranks and vise versa but day in a day out walleye fisherman catch way more bass as bycatch than the other way around. Around here you have to often sort through 10 lousy bass to get a walleye....

The point is the more you fish and the more species and techniques you fish the better you will be. As an avid steelhead / salmon (both lake, river, pier, using bait, fly/spey, cranks, spoons) , walleye, panfish, whitefish, trout, saltwater (when I can) and even on occasion ice fishing. Each technique and species has their niche but understanding one helps you understand them all.

[Jnamo]

The best fisherman is some that can not only cast, jig, but fish in many situations and conditions and gues what trolling is one of those as well as live bait. A guy that can do all those techniques well will be able to switch species very easily just by adjusting to that particular species habits and prey base. So of the two I think that the walleye angler would win out. I am sure that certian walleye situations would be better geared towards a bass angler like casting cranks and vise versa but day in a day out walleye fisherman catch way more bass as bycatch than the other way around. Around here you have to often sort through 10 lousy bass to get a walleye....


Maybe the fact that bass fisherman are so much better in their presentations and techniques, we don't have the incidental catches that walleye guys do. To me that says if I put a minnow on a jig, I can catch anything (walleye, perch, bass, etc...). Bass guys are so refined that we only catch our targeted species.

:D

Try again...

[waterfoul]

Maybe the fact that bass fisherman are so much better in their presentations and techniques, we don't have the incidental catches that walleye guys do. To me that says if I put a minnow on a jig, I can catch anything (walleye, perch, bass, etc...). Bass guys are so refined that we only catch our targeted species.

:D

Try again...

Yup, that's me..... I am HIGHLY refined! LOL!! :lol::lol:

[fishinmachine2]

Yup, that's me..... I am HIGHLY refined! LOL!! :lol::lol:

Maybe the fact that bass fisherman are so much better in their presentations and techniques, we don't have the incidental catches that walleye guys do. To me that says if I put a minnow on a jig, I can catch anything (walleye, perch, bass, etc...). Bass guys are so refined that we only catch our targeted species.

:D

Try again...

WOW!!! I'm glad I have my boots on cause its kinda getting DEEP in here!!:lol::lol::lol:

Scott

[waterfoul]

Huh? What? I'm not sure what you are refering to. You saying we're not refined? Come on... I drink Bud Light... not that awful Budweiser stuff.

:D

[Jnamo]

I like a nice Sam Adams when I am done "Targeting" bass....:D

[Southend517]

Maybe the fact that bass fisherman are so much better in their presentations and techniques, we don't have the incidental catches that walleye guys do. To me that says if I put a minnow on a jig, I can catch anything (walleye, perch, bass, etc...). Bass guys are so refined that we only catch our targeted species.



Try again...


So you never catch a pike while bass fishing ever?

[waterfoul]

So you never catch a pike while bass fishing ever?

Catch? Nope. Bit off. Oh yeah! LOL!!

[Jnamo]

To be honest, only on top water early in the morning.

Pike hit anything anyway....Especially walleye lures...:D

[BronZeBaK]

In all reality there is absolutely no way of answering or speculating on this. It all depends on that anglers background. There are a lot of guys who are on the Bass circuits whom I bet are pretty good Walleye anglers as well and vice versa... Bottom line if they fish for a living they have to be a good angler...

[bigfisherman]

Maybe the fact that bass fisherman are so much better in their presentations and techniques, we don't have the incidental catches that walleye guys do. To me that says if I put a minnow on a jig, I can catch anything (walleye, perch, bass, etc...). Bass guys are so refined that we only catch our targeted species.

:D

Try again...

Jnamo that may be true or maybe the flip side. Maybe your presentation is just barely good enough to catch the easy fish and the smart fish don't fall for that silly stuff bouncing around on the surface..... :lol: :evil:

Bronzebak is right if you make your living fishing you can probally switch back and forth between species and at least do better than your average fisherman.

[Jason Ammerman]

I think the post has gotten off the original message Who's a better tournament fisherman Walleye Guy or Bass Guy, there is only one way to look at it Who makes more money? The avg Pro Bass fisherman makes more than the avg Walleye fisherman. And there is fare more compitition in the bass fishing end of it.

Any way you look at it The best tournament bass fisherman (KVD) has better stats than the best Walleye fisherman, He is more of a house hold name, and he gets paid much more by sponsors,

[Lucky Dog]

I think the post has gotten off the original message Who's a better tournament fisherman Walleye Guy or Bass Guy, there is only one way to look at it Who makes more money? The avg Pro Bass fisherman makes more than the avg Walleye fisherman. And there is fare more compitition in the bass fishing end of it.

Any way you look at it The best tournament bass fisherman (KVD) has better stats than the best Walleye fisherman, He is more of a house hold name, and he gets paid much more by sponsors,

I think your getting off track as well, you seem to be confusing tournament payouts and name recognition with skill.

Here is a link to another board that is having the same discussion.

http://www.thenextbite.com/forum/viewmessages.cfm?Forum=15&Topic=6962&srow=1&erow=10

[ESOX]

I think the post has gotten off the original message Who's a better tournament fisherman Walleye Guy or Bass Guy, there is only one way to look at it Who makes more money? The avg Pro Bass fisherman makes more than the avg Walleye fisherman. And there is fare more compitition in the bass fishing end of it.

Any way you look at it The best tournament bass fisherman (KVD) has better stats than the best Walleye fisherman, He is more of a house hold name, and he gets paid much more by sponsors,

And here I thought the larger tournament payouts were due to the fact that bass have a much larger geographical distribution.Therefore bass are available to more anglers, so there are naturally more sponsors willing to spend bigger bucks to reach a larger target audience.

Sorry, I have got to quit using logic in what are for some, emotional discussions. :lol:;)

[thegr81]

Without a doubt a bass tournament fisherman is better. We don't have to use live bait and troll to catch our fish.

[GoneFishin]

Well, let's see, when I was fishin' Bass TX's, the best fishermen were the bass guys.

Now that I chase Wally's it's gotta be the walleye guys. :rolleyes: :lol:

To be honest, to be consistantly good, both need a lot of fish knowlege and be adept at many different presentations. Anybody can chuck a spinnerbait at bassy lookin' cover and catch bass most times and anyone can wash nightcrawlers behind a boat and catch a few walleye. It's when the goin' gets tough that the true fishermen shine.

All that said, I think the walleye fisherman to be a successful TX fisherman has to learn one of the hardest presentations there is "precision trolling" go out and try to work an weedline or even rocky points pulling the lures 50'+ behind the boat and put 'em on the spot at the right depth. Granted I could never learn to pitch a jig under a dock (always skipped 'em) and I can catch more weeds than fish when I'm trollin' that weed edge. But I could get the lure under the dock more often than I can hit the "spot" draggin' it behind the boat. :rolleyes: Precise live bait presentations can be the toughest (ya can't texas rig a real night crawler). So from the presentation stand point I'd say the walleye guy has to be a little better. :yikes:

[basskiller46]

Well, let's see, when I was fishin' Bass TX's, the best fishermen were the bass guys.

Now that I chase Wally's it's gotta be the walleye guys. :rolleyes: :lol:

To be honest, to be consistantly good, both need a lot of fish knowlege and be adept at many different presentations. Anybody can chuck a spinnerbait at bassy lookin' cover and catch bass most times and anyone can wash nightcrawlers behind a boat and catch a few walleye. It's when the goin' gets tough that the true fishermen shine.

All that said, I think the walleye fisherman to be a successful TX fisherman has to learn one of the hardest presentations there is "precision trolling" go out and try to work an weedline or even rocky points pulling the lures 50'+ behind the boat and put 'em on the spot at the right depth. Granted I could never learn to pitch a jig under a dock (always skipped 'em) and I can catch more weeds than fish when I'm trollin' that weed edge. But I could get the lure under the dock more often than I can hit the "spot" draggin' it behind the boat. :rolleyes: Precise live bait presentations can be the toughest (ya can't texas rig a real night crawler). So from the presentation stand point I'd say the walleye guy has to be a little better. :yikes:

Well you cant texas rig a crankbait either. You also catch a lot grass throwing rat l traps, Crankbaits, Jerkbaits etc.. And for trolling you have a fish finder to show you were everything is and that does not show anything when you are throwing a lure off the side of the boat or in front of it. And for walleye there is probably half the amount of presentations as there are
for bass. Harnesses, rapalas, jigs, blade baits. Compared to texas rig, carolina rig, drop shoting, wacky worm and thats only the soft plastics
you cant forget the top water or hard bait or spinner bait presentions also.
So no offense to walleye guys but bass guys i am not saying are better just have to know more presentations and when to use them which makes them better.:lol:

[KEITH207]

Bass (aka-green carp) are for people who can't catch walleye!

[GoneFishin]

Well you cant texas rig a crankbait either. You also catch a lot grass throwing rat l traps, Crankbaits, Jerkbaits etc.. And for trolling you have a fish finder to show you were everything is and that does not show anything when you are throwing a lure off the side of the boat or in front of it. ...

Don't know about you but when I bass fish I have a sonar unit runnin' front off the trollin' motor and one runnin' in the back of the boat for correct boat positioning, usually know what I'm fishin' because I can see it or have previously checked it out with a sonar unit. I can pick the correct lure for fishin' that type of structure so's I don't haul in a bunch of weeds.

Was just sayin' that it's much easier to cast, pitch, or flip a lures to a specific spot than drag it there (this doesn't even consider the vertical problems with suspended fish as we know a few inches outta the zone and your not gonna get bit, wallys or bass). Walleye guys use a lot more presentations than most think, here on the Great Lakes we usually associate dragging lures over lake basins as the only way to fish walleye this doesn't mean it's the only way, most of the techniques you mention for bass are also used in some shape or form for takin' Mr. Walleye. :) So unless I'm bass fishin' that day I'd have to vote for the walleye guy. ;) :lol: