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kumma
03-06-2008, 05:45 PM
I'm looking at a new bow and was trying out a few. What a surprise that I couldn't draw an 80 pound bow at all and really struggled with the 70#. No way I could draw those in a stand in the woods. Looks like ill stick with a 60# bow with a higher let-off. Any need for anything heavier? I'm really looking for the higher let-off rate now that im an old, broken, fat man. :lol:




Backwoods-Savage
03-06-2008, 05:48 PM
From one old, broken fat man to another; it all depends upon what you are going to hunt. If you are hunting whitetails and smaller animals, even a 50 pound bow will do the job. However, I would not take that on a grizzly bear hunt. Or even a moose hunt. But I would take a 65 pounder on one of those hunts. So, yes, you should get by very nicely with a 60 lb draw bow in Michigan.

DaKingfish
03-06-2008, 06:08 PM
I'm looking at a new bow and was trying out a few. What a surprise that I couldn't draw an 80 pound bow at all and really struggled with the 70#. No way I could draw those in a stand in the woods. Looks like ill stick with a 60# bow with a higher let-off. Any need for anything heavier? I'm really looking for the higher let-off rate now that im an old, broken, fat man. :lol:

I'll tell you what. check out apaarchery.com they are a canadian bow manufacturer that has several bows that have 80% let off. Here's what I think you'll like. They make a Bow called the Black Mamba X2 that shoots 342 FPS out of the box. Off course that's in a tested atmosphere but I own this bow and have it set at 60lbs. it shoots in the 300FPS range. It only has 70% let off though. There's another bow that they just cam out with called the VIPER that is a solo cam 322FPS with 80% let off that you might want to check out. Very nice and quiet for the speed that you get, very smooth no torque.

Swamp Monster
03-06-2008, 06:10 PM
60#'s is plenty! Most 60# bows max out between 62-64 pounds anyway if you want the extra power. But, one thing to keep in mind, the cam systems on the bows all feel different. Some 60 # bows feel like 70, and some 70# bows feel like 60. 80#'s? No need on this continant, period. Those that pull 80#'s are typically shooting super heavy arrows in 600gr range or better. Or the ylike to brag they are pullin' 80! :lol: Nothing in life is free though...those bows that draw easier are generally slower and don't generate the speed of those bows that have an aggressive draw cycle. Don't be to concerned though, a nice smooth drawing 60# bow that launches an arrow at a moderate speed is excellent whitetail medicine.
One of the easiest drawing bows I've ever owned/handled is the Ross bows....drawing 72# felt more like 63 or so. Wasn't a speed demon but plenty fast enough. Parker has a bow they call the EZ draw that is a nice smooth easy draw as well. Plenty of models to choose from out there that will fit your need.

Swamp Monster
03-06-2008, 06:17 PM
Don't get to caught up in let off though. Some of the high let off bows are still very aggressive and build weight fast and hold the weight for a long time during the draw cycle before falling like a brick into the valley and finally to the back wall at full draw. Most bows today are between in 75% and 80% let off anyway which is more than sufficient. I prefer 65% because I hold a little steadier at full draw with a little more weight plus it adds a few fps in most cases. Anyway, the draw cycle will probably be more important to you....a nice even draw curve can really make the weight seem a few pounds less.

Little Roober
03-06-2008, 06:17 PM
Parker has a bow they call the EZ draw that is a nice smooth easy draw as well. Plenty of models to choose from out there that will fit your need.

I shoot a Parker Buckshot set at 48ish pounds. I'm sure it hits at least 275. With today's technology, you don't need to pull 80.

skipper34
03-06-2008, 06:37 PM
You don't even need 60# if you are hunting whitetails. I have taken many deer back in the days of the recurve. They are still being used today with success. I shoot a Ross CR334 that is set at 55#. I have no idea how fast but it is smooth as silk and I have shot 3 in the 2 years I have had it. I limit my shot range to 20 yds. or less. Speed is not nearly as important as shot placement and silence. The Ross fulfills all of my needs, even if it is not blazing fast. Today's bows are so good that accuracy is not as difficult as it once was. Keep your hunting heads deadly sharp and limit your shot range.

kingfishcam
03-06-2008, 07:48 PM
I'll tell you what. check out apaarchery.com they are a canadian bow manufacturer that has several bows that have 80% let off. Here's what I think you'll like. They make a Bow called the Black Mamba X2 that shoots 342 FPS out of the box. Off course that's in a tested atmosphere but I own this bow and have it set at 60lbs. it shoots in the 300FPS range. It only has 70% let off though. There's another bow that they just cam out with called the VIPER that is a solo cam 322FPS with 80% let off that you might want to check out. Very nice and quiet for the speed that you get, very smooth no torque.

How about bringing the X2 out to Livingston GUn Club on the 29th for our 3D shoot. I would like to test drive the X2.:)

glockman55
03-06-2008, 08:13 PM
I shoot a 70# bow now and at the age of 52 it gets harder every year, it takes some shooting to get comfortable hunting with that poundage, but it's still doable. My next bow will be 60#.

DaKingfish
03-06-2008, 08:16 PM
How about bringing the X2 out to Livingston GUn Club on the 29th for our 3D shoot. I would like to test drive the X2.:)

Is that off of Hunter Rd? What's your draw length? It's possible I live off of Spencer and us-23 so anyday is good for me. I have to find a sitter first.

HunterHawk
03-06-2008, 09:17 PM
i shoot a 65 # bow and i think thats about perfect... for me at this point in my life

kingfishcam
03-06-2008, 09:25 PM
Is that off of Hunter Rd? What's your draw length? It's possible I live off of Spencer and us-23 so anyday is good for me. I have to find a sitter first.

Yep, Hunter road, 28 inch draw. And bring the kids.:D

GVDocHoliday
03-06-2008, 09:27 PM
I draw 62lbs for everything...I have no problem getting full passthroughs on whitetails. I can pull 80lbs all day while sitting while suspending my feet off the ground but why?? 62lbs is a breeze as well and I'm pretty sure that my shoulders will like me a lot more when I'm old...er.

yooperkenny
03-07-2008, 09:43 AM
You don't even need 60# if you are hunting whitetails. .... Speed is not nearly as important as shot placement and silence...Keep your hunting heads deadly sharp and limit your shot range.

I'm with Skipper and the others on this. The hype over draw weight and corresponding speed is pretty ridiculous when you look at real world hunting and results.

I say this because my Reflex Buckskin is set at 53 lbs and chronos at 265 fps. The lower draw weight is an huge advantage after sitting in the treestand for a few hours in December UP conditions. It sent my 100 grain Stryker through both deer I killed last fall and they didn't seem to notice that I wasn't pulling 80 lbs ;)

Swamp Monster
03-07-2008, 10:35 AM
I say this because my Reflex Buckskin is set at 53 lbs and chronos at 265 fps. The lower draw weight is an huge advantage after sitting in the treestand for a few hours in December UP conditions. It sent my 100 grain Stryker through both deer I killed last fall and they didn't seem to notice that I wasn't pulling 80 lbs ;)


53 pounds? Does that skirt your wearing keep you warm while sitting in a U.P. treestand in December? :evil: :lol:

Kidding ofcourse;)....I agree for a hunting set up light to moderate weight is all that is really necessary.

My stepfather pulls 40# in his Hoyt and that thing packs a pretty good punch.....far more than my 44# recurve.

TrekJeff
03-07-2008, 11:43 AM
When I first started bow hunting as a kid, drawing a 55 pound bow was pretty impossible. Dad started me out with 45 bear recurveand I never went without filling a tag those years before going into the military. So you'll have plenty of power.

michigan head hunter
03-07-2008, 12:46 PM
i shoot a martin firecat at 58 pds bad shoulders and i use 340 arrow and moves 301 at 28 inch draw with todays bow you can get away with want ever pds you feel good to shoot the moab pulls easy and a hard wall and the price is good and up at capitol they have diamond bows and the liberty at 55 shoots 278 with a 27 inche draw that is good , and try the bows up at shooters they have the moab and the firecat.:tdo12::tdo12::tdo12::tdo12:

sullyxlh
03-07-2008, 01:10 PM
You need alot bigger sight picture with a lower poundage bow,
the higher you go the picture tightens up and it takes alot of obstructions out of the picture by giving you a flatter shooting trajectory without giving up kinetic energy.
This isn't as much of an issue for target shooters shooting in open air as it is for hunting or even 3d where alot of times your looking for that one small window to get that shot through.

skipper34
03-07-2008, 02:29 PM
You need alot bigger sight picture with a lower poundage bow,
the higher you go the picture tightens up and it takes alot of obstructions out of the picture by giving you a flatter shooting trajectory without giving up kinetic energy.
This isn't as much of an issue for target shooters shooting in open air as it is for hunting or even 3d where alot of times your looking for that one small window to get that shot through.

This is a good reason to clear shooting lanes well before season.

TJO
03-07-2008, 02:52 PM
I use to shoot those heavy pound bows now all of mine are 50# the older you get the harder it is to pull back those heavy bows. Also, as the temps cool down and you put on more the harder it is to pull back. If you can't sit or stand in your tree stand and hold the bow straight out in front of you and just pull it back its to much poundage for you.

DaKingfish
03-07-2008, 04:43 PM
Yep, Hunter road, 28 inch draw. And bring the kids.:D


Consider it done, I shoot a 29 inch draw using a scott archery release. My kid is only 6 months old so? I will make arrangments. Did you check out the www.apaarchery.com (http://www.apaarchery.com) website ? Send me a private message around the 29th to remind me. I will also mark my calander.

kingfishcam
03-07-2008, 04:45 PM
Consider it done, I shoot a 29 inch draw using a scott archery release. My kid is only 6 months old so? I will make arrangments. Did you check out the www.apaarchery.com (http://www.apaarchery.com) website ? Send me a private message around the 29th to remind me. I will also mark my calander.

Is it a 60 pounder to keep in the spirit of the thread? No more 70's will be bought by me!!!

kumma
03-07-2008, 06:04 PM
How about bringing the X2 out to Livingston GUn Club on the 29th for our 3D shoot. I would like to test drive the X2.:)

Is this a public shoot? If it is ill stop by its only a couple miles from me. I have never done anything like that just plinking in the yard.

radiohead
03-07-2008, 07:20 PM
I checked out the apa archery page. I also checked out the Desantis Hunting site...pretty cool !!! :cool::coolgleam


Consider it done, I shoot a 29 inch draw using a scott archery release. My kid is only 6 months old so? I will make arrangments. Did you check out the www.apaarchery.com (http://www.apaarchery.com) website ? Send me a private message around the 29th to remind me. I will also mark my calander.

kingfishcam
03-07-2008, 07:49 PM
Is this a public shoot? If it is ill stop by its only a couple miles from me. I have never done anything like that just plinking in the yard.

Yes it is! So everybody bring the 60 bows out! I will have mine!

Kelly Johnson
03-07-2008, 08:06 PM
Just ordered my new 60lb'er tonight;)

You need alot bigger sight picture with a lower poundage bow,
the higher you go the picture tightens up and it takes alot of obstructions out of the picture by giving you a flatter shooting trajectory without giving up kinetic energy.
This isn't as much of an issue for target shooters shooting in open air as it is for hunting or even 3d where alot of times your looking for that one small window to get that shot through.

Good points Sull...but I'll tell ya the 3D guys are the ones shooting right at 5gr per pound. Most guys (myself included) will shoot a LOT lighter arrows than they hunt with for the reasons you mentioned.

Spotty guys shoot 500gr shafts with 240 gr tips at 38lbs and could care less...it's only 2o and ALWAYS 20 :lol:

kingfishcam
03-07-2008, 08:10 PM
Just ordered my new 60lb'er tonight;)



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