Hey Azzholes, you got the whole damn lake

[salmon_slayer06]

Whats the matter with people? Are they that stupid? You see ice shanties set up and they have to drive a 100 miles an hour across the damn ice right next to you? ***!!! Fair Haven is for all the sled yahoos that want to show off and get hurt and maybe lose their machines in the ice. Paint ball gun is locked and loaded next time there won't be yelling and screaming it'll be nitro fed paint balls comn at ya.

[Anon2109]

Bo- who:D:D:D:D:D

[Dialtone]

Oh boy, here we go again. :rolleyes:

Its like this every Monday! :rant:

[bounty hunter]

I'm sure that if you were to actually shoot some one with a paintball and they were to crash and get hurt or even killed your fishing days would be over.

[William H Bonney]

I'm kinda with SS06 on this one,, except it's wind-sailers and not sleds where were at. These jackazzzes are "slaloming" through the shantys out there at Gino's. Last week, I watched one knucklehead zing through within 10 yards of a guy on a bucket:dizzy:. This guy was hauling azzz,, one quick gust of wind in the other direction and the guy on the bucket woulda been skewered.:tdo12:

[PerchOnly]

I'll add my .02. Last week out in FH there was an idiot in a car doing doughnuts on the ice. Within 100 yards of shore in front of the Raft and by the DNR site. Now it was during the week so of course the volume of people was way down, but come on.....:rant::rant::rant:

I forgot that I had a phone with me, next time I am calling 911, can't believe that reckless driving is allowed on the lake, although maybe it is. Obviously there is no speed limit.

[Duck-Hunter]

Whats the matter with people? Are they that stupid? You see ice shanties set up and they have to drive a 100 miles an hour across the damn ice right next to you? ***!!! Fair Haven is for all the sled yahoos that want to show off and get hurt and maybe lose their machines in the ice. Paint ball gun is locked and loaded next time there won't be yelling and screaming it'll be nitro fed paint balls comn at ya.

*******s like you give paintball a bad name. Why cant you just throw snow or rock filled slush balls like everyone else. Also "nitro" is short for nitrogen which is nothin but compressed air.....nothin' special

[454casull]

I have to agree w SS06. Had one ice boater come within 25 feet of me. And the Number of fools traveling at excess speed on the sleds reminded me of why I do not like to ice fish anymore. No respect. I can only fish weekends which makes it worse. Yes the lake is for everyone but have some respect for the others who do not "share" your death wishes. Also, the guys that are moving their shanties and scouting on the ATVs are almost as bad. Had them cruise by just as close....

[Spudman2]

Oh boy, here we go again. :rolleyes:

Its like this every Monday! :rant:




Ya. I like to get in a laugh to start the week. I can see it now, a new sport, paintball wars on ice. Where do i get the rocks for my snowballs.:lol:

[D-Fresh]

I am with SS on this one too, except I was fishing on the bay. Had some yahoo racing back and forth right through all of the spearing shanties. We stopped him, and very politely told him we don't mind you racing around, but if you could just go outside the group of shanties a little bit so you are not bothering the fisherman. His response was, "I can do whatever the FU*$ I want." (this coming from a 35-45 year old man) He whipped his snowmobile sideways on the ice and blew snow/slush all over my dad who has alot of health problems and if he would have fallen, it could have been trouble. Class A person there.

[Robert Hoover]

I guess shootin paintballs is a good idea if you just want to join the aholes.Why dont you do something a little more grown up like stop them and get their machine niumbers and report them.the dnr is more than happy to give out reckless driving tickets if they can catch the people.

[Willie Tippit]

I guess shootin paintballs is a good idea if you just want to join the aholes.Why dont you do something a little more grown up like stop them and get their machine niumbers and report them.the dnr is more than happy to give out reckless driving tickets if they can catch the people. Amen to that one...A guy in a jeep was messing with the fishermen and called the law The dnr guy came to the lake looking for him...at the same time watching us fishing and setting tippups and catching pike when he saw the 4 hole being guy he came to see whats up and gave my 2 buds extra pole tickets... Just doing his job. Then watched us get 2 more pike and a really nice eye...Then here comes Jeep man... He said cya and helped him off the ice where the shreiff was waiting...G.L. Mark

[USMarine1171]

He whipped his snowmobile sideways on the ice and blew snow/slush all over my dad who has alot of health problems and if he would have fallen, it could have been trouble. Class A person there.


That's really messed up.

I've got $20 to first guy who hits a snowmobiler:evilsmile:lol:

Of course, don't forget pics for verification. Nothing like a frozen paintball to the face!

[Bob T]

I am thinking that the reckless use of snowmobiles or four wheelers could also come under the harrassment rule. I agree with Rober Hoover, get the license number if you can and call the DNR. Taking matters into your own hands can lead to many more problems. I remember years ago on a lake up north, ice fishermen were having problems with drunken snow mobilers tearing down their shanties at night after the bars closed. The ice fishermen one night buried steel stakes around a couple of the shanties and when the snowmobiles went out one Friday after the bars closed one of them hit one of the stakes and the guy ended up in the hospital for a couple of months. Investigations could not prove who put out the stakes but whoever did it could have been in serious trouble. Thank goodness I am retired and do not have to put with the weekend outings. They have the right to use the lake like ice fishermen do but with such a large body of water to utilize why do they have to do it around people.

Bob

[THEFISHHUNTER]

Fyi, someone can indeed get a reckless driving ticket in a motor vehicle on a lake. Reckless driving is "any willfull and wantun disregard for public safety on any roadway, stream, pond, or FROZEN LAKE that is generally accessable to the public.

P.S. Those are the only tickets I actually like to write for people. I wouldn't recommend the paintball idea. It sounds a lot cooler than it would be if someone gets hurt. You never know if one of those idiots on the quads has a ccw permit and is carrying a gun. Believe me people think they have to carry a gun everywhere.

I recommend just calling the local police/ sherriff's department non emergency, and reporting such behavior. They will be out there within minutes, and they will help.

Let's all get back to having a good time out there and catching enough fish for a fish fry.

good luck,

[Ralph Smith]

I agree with the flagging him down and talking idea. Maybe start with " nice sled, can I get a pic of it" and out comes the camera or phone to get the registration number with him on it. Then might want to let him know they can find him at home if his stupid sh** contiues.

[dobes]

I know its frustrating, but you cant go shooting people with paint balls . You will defintly be charged with a crime and make a bad name for your self . Dont get yourself into trouble .

[Little Roober]

Of course, don't forget pics for verification. Nothing like a frozen paintball to the face!

Marbles are better :evilsmile

I know its frustrating, but you cant go shooting people with paint balls . You will defintly be charged with a crime and make a bad name for your self . Dont get yourself into trouble .

In MI paintball guns are considered firearms so yea, you can get in some deep chit for shooting people.:bloos:

[PerchOnly]

Here's a song for all of the 4 wheelers, snowmobilers, car, truck and other lake driving idiots that think the ice belongs to them. :D:D:D Enjoy!

Adult orientated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPnv8UvKFzc

[USMarine1171]

Marbles are better :evilsmile


OOOOOOH MAAARBLES!!!!:bowdown::evil:




j/k of course;)

[smoker]

This issue will never be solved. I agree with everything I've read and I really think we're all helpless on this. You might take the time, get the law involved and 10 minutes later the next clown starts up....

The only time it really gets me going is when the kids are with me and I feel like their safety is at risk. I will say this though; even though it's mostly the sport riders causing the issue, I've seen ice fisherman with sleds / quads doing the same stuff. People now a days feel a false sense of entitlement. They think about only themselves and treat the lake like it's their private pond. I wish there was someway to work this out but I don't see the end of this one.

[Anon2109]

You guys on this site really amaze me! Bit--! about the same issues on st.clair every year. You need to realize that this lake is made up of aholes and will never change, so dont Bit-- or dont even fish unless you realize and expect them its the norm spring, summer, winter, fall does not matter! Another thing, SS06 you are the last person who should be on here complaining! about anything! Yeah I hope you shoot people with a paint ball gun and I hope its me! :rant::rant::rant::rant:

[ICEGUY]

Lets just be glad there is some ICE!!!!!!!!:):):) I am on my way out the door, and can't wait to get to Ginos area today. seeya

[Fishcapades]

You never know if one of those idiots on the quads has a ccw permit and is carrying a gun. Believe me people think they have to carry a gun everywhere.


FYI ITS OUR RIGHTS TO CARRY A GUN IF WE HAVE A CCW!!

NOW THAT BEING SAID JUST CALL THE DNR IM SURE THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HELP.

[FishinJoe]

I agree I was at SANG and was set up all by myself, I guess there is something about shanties that these azzes think they have to get as close and going as fast as they can. Empty 1lb propane tanks work well. I believe these guys are the same ones that ride the jet skis in the summer, O well that 1lb pyramids and old snagging pols are good for.

[Kzoo-Sniper]

Im a fisherman and I dont have a machine but what I can say is, the lake belongs to all citizens of Michigan. Ask the riders once to stop driving reckless near your shanty and then if it happens again call the law with the numbers on the machine and a good description. Theres a pretty good chance the guys on the machines will stay away from you. It makes no sense to get yourself a charge of assault or even felonious assault trying to beat a dead horse. Id bet half of the guys driving recklessly on there machines have been drinking allday and an OWI on a sled or orv has the same ramnifications as on the road in your vehicle. It was a zoo out their this weekend and there will always be a#$holes on both sides of the fence, so lets all try to have some respect both ways and enjoy the ice while it lasts. This is a never ending circle every year though and we'll probably hear it again next monday.

Just my two cents:dizzy:
sniper

[icefishin nutz]

I am with SS on this one too, except I was fishing on the bay. Had some yahoo racing back and forth right through all of the spearing shanties. We stopped him, and very politely told him we don't mind you racing around, but if you could just go outside the group of shanties a little bit so you are not bothering the fisherman. His response was, "I can do whatever the FU*$ I want." (this coming from a 35-45 year old man) He whipped his snowmobile sideways on the ice and blew snow/slush all over my dad who has alot of health problems and if he would have fallen, it could have been trouble. Class A person there.

I know if that were my dad, he has no health problems, but if someone pulled that kinda crap,, he would have no problem makin sure that guy did. Needless to say that guy would be limping away@ best!!!.Unreal.:nono: I read this post early this AM and cant quit thinkin about it. It's the same thing year in & year out.:banghead3 I think alot of it is hot doggin around their friends, have too many beers & show your *** basically. I read in another post yesterday, something about "Too many beers:dizzy:and had the machine pegged @ 70 MPH?????? CMON!!!!!!That's just plain ignorant. :rant:
Just my 2 cents
Lisa

[Reel_Screamer86]

Whats the matter with people? Are they that stupid? You see ice shanties set up and they have to drive a 100 miles an hour across the damn ice right next to you? ***!!! Fair Haven is for all the sled yahoos that want to show off and get hurt and maybe lose their machines in the ice. Paint ball gun is locked and loaded next time there won't be yelling and screaming it'll be nitro fed paint balls comn at ya.

REAL SMART !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:dizzy::dizzy:

[BFG]

I'm sure all of those guys are reading this thread and changing their ways as I type....

[stinger63]

Anyone who knows anything about fishing anchorbay or the fairhaven knows the place is going to be a circus of quad riders,snow machine racing or cars/trucks out on the ice driving around.I dont agree with how reckless they are but I can say I have had the experience of any near misses or close calls.If I fish there its during the weekdays mostly and definately not saturdays.I fished there yesterday and was off the ice by noon because I knew with it being a nice day what was going to happen.As for solving the problem it probaly never will be cause theres just isnt enough dnr and law inforcement around all the time.Shooting them with paintballs isnt the right approach to take either.

[grouly925]

Now I both fish and ride snowmobiles. I abide by all of the laws as written in the state handbook for lawful operation of snowmobiles around people. I have been guilty and ridden too close too fast to a guy if he is fishing right on the side of the river, or if they are out there in the dark. If I was the one to be shot by your paintball, I could gaurantee that your fishing stuff as well as some of your other assets would be sitting in my garage after I got done suing you. Its best not to take the law into your own hands, it just gets messy.

[MIoutdoorsjunkie]

I agree with SS on this one also. I was out at Crocker on Saturday afternoon and there were several "careless" guys out there riding around on sleds. Dont get me wrong, I enjoy riding snomobiles just like the next guy, but when I am sitting in a shanty and one speeds by at 50mph less then 10 feet from me I tend to get a bit pi**ed off. There is a whole lake out there to ride on and these idiots insist on swerving in and out of all the shanties out there. Not cool!

[KI Jim]

AH YES.......snowmobiles in the winter-jet skis in the summer.....both have their place....and it is NOT AROUND PEOPLE FISHING. Amazing how good sense often (not always-not even the majority of time) is not present when someone puts a hundred horses between their legs.

Jim

[Bing]

"You may not operate a snowmobile:

On the frozen surface of public waters within 100 feet of a person, including a skater, not in or upon a snowmobile or within 100 feet of a fishing shanty or shelter except at the minimum speed required to maintain forward movement of the snowmobile, or on an area that has been cleared for ice skating, unless the area is necessary for gaining access to the public water."

I wonder just how slow a sled can go.

[Fish&GameWhisperer]

I'd like to see you hit me with a paint ball when I got the needle on my twin ATV pegged at 70. :lol: First off I'd be way too far to hit because I don't open it up like that unless I am at least 100 YARDS from the nearest person. But even so, I doubt you could hit me doing 70 if I was right next to you. And, if you did, I'd own you. The CCW comment was right on. It'd be oh so temping to whip out the S&W 500 Magnum from the fender pack. Would never do it, but I think some would and then you'd be a dead azzh---. :(

[Cut Bait]

Amen to that one...A guy in a jeep was messing with the fishermen and called the law The dnr guy came to the lake looking for him...at the same time watching us fishing and setting tippups and catching pike when he saw the 4 hole being guy he came to see whats up and gave my 2 buds extra pole tickets... Just doing his job. Then watched us get 2 more pike and a really nice eye...Then here comes Jeep man... He said cya and helped him off the ice where the shreiff was waiting...G.L. Mark

Was that on Clark Lake?

[U of M Fan]

I'd like to see you hit me with a paint ball when I got the needle on my twin ATV pegged at 70. :lol: First off I'd be way too far to hit because I don't open it up like that unless I am at least 100 YARDS from the nearest person. But even so, I doubt you could hit me doing 70 if I was right next to you. And, if you did, I'd own you. The CCW comment was right on. It'd be oh so temping to whip out the S&W 500 Magnum from the fender pack. Would never do it, but I think some would and then you'd be a dead azzh---. :(
He might be a dead A hole but you would be doing 9-15 years in the clink. I wouldnt want to be either one of you in that situation.

[USMarine1171]

I guess you never know when you're gonna have to, "bussa cap in at ***" out on the middle of a lake:coco:

[Fish&GameWhisperer]

He might be a dead A hole but you would be doing 9-15 years in the clink. I wouldnt want to be either one of you in that situation.

Read my post in it's entirety, UofM fan. I said I wouldn't do it, but some would. Don't you read the papers. If it can happen on our campuses and at the malls, it can happen anywhere. The point I was trying to make is that two wrongs don't make a right.

[bounty hunter]

You really pack a gun in your "fender pack" while racing your quad on the ice?
The guy who posted this is 22 so cut him a little slack because we old folks were big and bad years ago but we learned.

[ScavengerMan]

I ride fast snowmobiles and ice fish, but agree with the basic premise of this thread. It's just not safe sitting in a portable shanty or on a bucket with some drunk cowboys racing 100 MPH around fishermen, sometimes with blowing snow reducing visibility.

Years ago on an inland lake one of them killed himself hitting a block of ice right next to a shanty cut from a spearing shed. I like snowmobiles, but keep the crazy stuff and insane behavior far away from fishermen.

[Fish&GameWhisperer]

You really pack a gun in your "fender pack" while racing your quad on the ice?
The guy who posted this is 22 so cut him a little slack because we old folks were big and bad years ago but we learned.

Yes. I have a right to bear arms, and it's perfectly legal. A gun of some sort goes with me anywhere it's legal under the CCW. I was trying to exemplify a point and hopefully save someone from doing something stupid. I am sorry I joined this site. So far I have found people here to be both presumptious and judgemental. I though I was doing something in support of a good cause. I see now that I was wrong.

[COHO]

"You may not operate a snowmobile:

On the frozen surface of public waters within 100 feet of a person, including a skater, not in or upon a snowmobile or within 100 feet of a fishing shanty or shelter except at the minimum speed required to maintain forward movement of the snowmobile, or on an area that has been cleared for ice skating, unless the area is necessary for gaining access to the public water."

I wonder just how slow a sled can go.

just got back from riding up north all weekend, you can go pretty slow if you know what your doing;) other wise stay off them:xzicon_sm:tdo12::bloos:there is NO NO NO NO excuse for riding like that, anywhere near another person. i love to fish & ride sleds, but you cant be hammering away on a sled where people are tying to ice fish, just like you cant be trying to ice fish at fairhaven right up by shore where they are drag race:gaga: P.S. i can go under 10 mph all day on the sled i rode today

[USMarine1171]

Yes. I have a right to bear arms, and it's perfectly legal. A gun of some sort goes with me anywhere it's legal under the CCW. I was trying to exemplify a point and hopefully save someone from doing something stupid. I am sorry I joined this site. So far I have found people here to be both presumptious and judgemental. I though I was doing something in support of a good cause. I see now that I was wrong.


Alcohol and guns don't mix.

[Lwapo]

First, I agree with the "Don't use the paintball gun" comment. I agree that it'll get you in heaps of trouble.

That being said...


People zooming through shanties at high speeds are endangering lives. Imagine if you had a kid that came out from behind a shanty at the wrong time, etc.

This is a problem that will simply esclate. I've been lucky enough to not have to deal with this, but I know what lengths I would go to, to protect my friend's and family's saftey...

I can only imagine what others would do.

[COHO]

Yes. I have a right to bear arms, and it's perfectly legal. A gun of some sort goes with me anywhere it's legal under the CCW. I was trying to exemplify a point and hopefully save someone from doing something stupid. I am sorry I joined this site. So far I have found people here to be both presumptious and judgemental. I though I was doing something in support of a good cause. I see now that I was wrong.
fish & game give it a chance this is usually a good forum. this is also getting to be off topic, lots of good people here and lots of us have a CPL. the sleding thing comes up every year, and now we have someone spouting off about paintball guns, hopefully it won't happen, just guys letting off steam;);)

[Dialtone]

Are you guys f'ing kidding me? This is the ice fishing forum and now there are people talking about CPLs, shooting someone on a sled, and using marbles in a paintball marker. I think you guys have all lost your minds! :dizzy:

What the hell happened to this site? I am beginning to be ashamed of being a member of M-S.com and I was about to order a Michigan-Sportsman.com decal for my ice shanty.
I will be back in the spring when all of these Ice Nutz are gone.

[Jethro]

Paintball shooters are the same guys that call way too much and skybust hen mallards over robo ducks after shooting hours.
Did I miss any?

[bounty hunter]

yeah, the moron 250 feet over hunting next to you who thinks he is an expert duck caller and actually his calls sound like someone stepping on a cripple.:yikes:

[Boardman Brookies]

I ride sleds and ice fish. When I ride on the ice I respect anglers and expect the same when I am in a shanty or sitting on a bucket. I love to open it up on my sled on the ice, but at a distance far enough from anglers and other riders. It is just common sense. You wouldn't take a dirt bike and race up and down a beach around people. Common now. I understand where the original poster is coming from, but shooting someone one a sled or quad with a paintball gun is just plain stupid. Be safe out there and use good judgment.

[smoker]

Are you guys f'ing kidding me? This is the ice fishing forum and now there are people talking about CPLs, shooting someone on a sled, and using marbles in a paintball marker. I think you guys have all lost your minds! :dizzy:

What the hell happened to this site? I am beginning to be ashamed of being a member of M-S.com and I was about to order a Michigan-Sportsman.com decal for my ice shanty.
I will be back in the spring when all of these Ice Nutz are gone.

:yeahthat: Anyone got a gun that could kill this thread?? Walleye Mike, save us all!!

[BOEDY]

So.......how bout those wings.:)

[Falk]

Some of you guys need to chill a little. Think about what you are saying. If someone is breaking the law, turn them in. Man, life is short. Try to enjoy it guys.

[yellowbelly80]

So.......how bout those wings.:)
that could be another 4 page rant:lol::banghead3 lets not get me going its more like how is that grand rapids defense doing:lol:

[WALLEYE MIKE]

:yeahthat: Anyone got a gun that could kill this thread?? Walleye Mike, save us all!!


Thou shall be saved!!!!

I think we all had enough.