monday

[neil duffey]

well i went out from 8 to 1:30, the jumbo's are in... every 15 to 20 mins or so id have 4 or 5 10-12 inchers in the hole. i had the steel w/ me and they went tight lipped. so i chucked the spear a good 2 dz times this am, and i missed every time:lol: this was the first time i ever got to throw my spear. got it 3 seasons ago... i caught a few smaller ones, bout 9 or 10 inch's only 7 so i tossed em back. had i stuck afew fatties, then id be happy. they came in fast and hard on a dead minnow hooked through the belly and dropped in the hole for a dead fall. i was using ficious classic chartruce bug eye for that. as soon as i dropped the dead one down they came from all sides and as soon as the minnow stopped falling, they just sat there stareing at it till i threw the spear... it was fun day off. gl gang. stay shallow!!! i was somewhere from srr to brandonburg:evil:

[Joeker51]

stay shallow!!! i was somewhere from srr to brandonburg:evil:


Oh, real nice Neil.:16suspect:lol:

I always found that if you had the spear in the water say 6" or so and just gave it some easy effort I did better at spearing them. Don't be chuckin it.:yikes:

[Gone Fishing]

Heck, I figured that anyone that is able to master hunting with a macheti would be able to make a pin cushion out of Perch with a spear. :p ;)

[Joeker51]

Owwwwch, good one !:lol: You definately have a good memory in your old age.:hide: I forgot all about that.:lol::lol:

[neil duffey]

if its not feather my melee skill lack... :lol: idk why, but i guess its cuz i get most of my practice on the feathered friends.:help::evilsmile

[ficious]

Neil,

You will have more luck with your spear if you don't throw it. I made a lead collar for mine(2-3#), since then, all I do is position over the fish and let go. If they are outside of the hole, aim 1 fish underneath the one you see, that's where it really is.

Glad someone is at least seeing big'uns.

Harry

[Gone Fishing]

You definately have a good memory in your old age.:hide:
Old age eh? I'm pretty sure you're a .................................................. .....hmmm, can't remember what I was going to type. :p ;)

[neil duffey]

Neil,

You will have more luck with your spear if you don't throw it. I made a lead collar for mine(2-3#), since then, all I do is position over the fish and let go. If they are outside of the hole, aim 1 fish underneath the one you see, that's where it really is.

Glad someone is at least seeing big'uns.

Harry

thanks harry, i was throwing it indeed. i figured dropping it gives em enough time to swim away...:confused:

[treeman]

Hey Neil

Lower the spear into the water until it is just a little above the fish then give it a smooth "push". Aim just behind the head. You can almost touch the fish sometimes before you release the spear.

[lancerdad34]

Back in the ealry 80's when I had my shanty out on the dropoff at Fair Haven I dropped a gallon jar with minnows half way down. That would keep perch in the hole and you could be selective in the ones you would spear. I had a long shaft on my spear so all I had to do was jab em.

Brian in Harrison Twp

[dobes]

Just curious , Is'nt it easier to catch perch on a jig rather than spearing them? Seems like spearing perch would kinda be a waste of time . Also , a perch is not a big fish . Even a big perch is still small in a sense . Would'nt you ruin alot of meat on the fish by shoving a spear through it ? I never tried it , just doesnt seem like a logical way of catchin a perch . Have fun with that !!!!

[smoker]

Stabbed 4 jumbos with the spear yesterday afternoon at Cotton Road. Ended up with about 15 nice fish total. Walked past the crowd into about 7 fow. I had a few misses yesterday too. It took me a while to get going with the spear in the beginning. I think I was throwing it too hard also. Once you get one and realize how easily the spear will go through the fish, you'll be fine. Just hurry up and get the first one out of the way.

[Bob T]

dobes

I think that it is easier to catch fish on a jig when they are quite active and in a feeding mode but that is not always the case if fact. I will always try to catch them on jigs when I start out on a fishing trip but there are many times when perch will just come in and stare at the jig over and over again without hitting it at all. This is when the spear comes into play. The perch spear is much smaller that a pike spear and you lose very little meat this way, less than you would think. You try to aim generally right behind the head if possible. That said I am happy most of the time with a solid hit anywhere. The spear has made many a trip a success when they are in an inactive mood.

Bob

[BIG "D"]

Neil,

The problem your having is that you duck hunt to much and your probably tring to lead the perch to much:D :lol:

[neil duffey]

dobes

I think that it is easier to catch fish on a jig when they are quite active and in a feeding mode but that is not always the case if fact. I will always try to catch them on jigs when I start out on a fishing trip but there are many times when perch will just come in and stare at the jig over and over again without hitting it at all. This is when the spear comes into play. The perch spear is much smaller that a pike spear and you lose very little meat this way, less than you would think. You try to aim generally right behind the head if possible. That said I am happy most of the time with a solid hit anywhere. The spear has made many a trip a success when they are in an inactive mood.

Bob

:yeahthat:
everything he said applies to me. im not out there looking to spear and only spear. the only time i use it is if the perch doesnt hit... then ill toss the spear at em. either way, a perch dinner is a perch dinner, and i havent had one in a while, im hungry:D

ur mos tlikely 110% right, there, BIG "D"... but i did more puddle hunting then diver hunting this ast season. u dont need to lead hovering bread eatters:lol:

[kcud rellik]

Have the spear head already in the water before they come in and just hold it above one and gently push it down. Where do you get a perch spear and how much are they? Seems like it would be a very effective way to pick the big ones out or as said before on a day when they just won't hit.

[neil duffey]

got mine at m and m outdoors on 23 mile just east of i-94 bout a half mile. on the south side of 23 mile, next to the chinese place. great guys and i think i paid about 30 or 40 for mine. i cant realy remember.

[salmonslammer]

Does yours have barbs on it?

Mine doesnt...and I've had to gig them twice to get them through the hole...

[smoker]

$36 at Jimmy's, no barbs.

[neil duffey]

no barbs on mine either.

[kcud rellik]

Sweet, might have to pick one up for them slow days.

[double trouble]

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_1356_100011005_100000000_100011000_100-11-5

[BOEDY]

Ill have one before i go again. Does it take forever for the fish to come back after you throw the spear?

[Duck-Hunter]

I remember about 4 years ago at the Pt.mouilee show this guy had a couple spear guns for sale. I have regretted not getting them ever since :evilsmile

But if you missed alot kcud's advice is on the money.

[Bob T]

Boedy

If you spear a fish the other ones around will scatter but it does not seem to hinder them from coming back in later. The area around will be disturbed for a few seconds but it clears up quite soon. Some people swear by disturbing the sand on the bottom it will bring in curious fish to check things out. Its like banging your jig on the bottom to disturb the sand. Besides the neat thing is to see the outline of the fish you just spead in the sand. If you are good or just lucky you can get two for the price of one.

Bob

[BOEDY]

Boedy

If you spear a fish the other ones around will scatter but it does not seem to hinder them from coming back in later. The area around will be disturbed for a few seconds but it clears up quite soon. Some people swear by disturbing the sand on the bottom it will bring in curious fish to check things out. Its like banging your jig on the bottom to disturb the sand. Besides the neat thing is to see the outline of the fish you just spead in the sand. If you are good or just lucky you can get two for the price of one.

BobI used to spear pike when I lived in ludington and I know it disturbs the water,,, I was just curiouse if it was worth spearing that one big fish and scareing the whole bunch out of the hole. The best thing to attract fish to the hole is fish in the hole. If they came right back it wouldnt be so bad. Ill try it and see what happens. I had some mosters in the hole tues. that wouldnt eat,,,Ill have to see if I cant make them eat a spear.

[neil duffey]

I used to spear pike when I lived in ludington and I know it disturbs the water,,, I was just curiouse if it was worth spearing that one big fish and scareing the whole bunch out of the hole. The best thing to attract fish to the hole is fish in the hole. If they came right back it wouldnt be so bad. Ill try it and see what happens. I had some mosters in the hole tues. that wouldnt eat,,,Ill have to see if I cant make them eat a spear.

a video posted on a duck hunting site i belong too... shows it doesnt scare em away :lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBoo3giGGUY more towards the last half.

[BOEDY]

The video after the spearing vid. where the guys drilling holes and there playing hot for teacher in the background,,,,if you dont die laughing theres something wrong with you! Good stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOnWr4iHli8&NR=1

[smoker]

I usually throw the spear when they just wont bite but lately they've been biting really well so while I'm playing keep away from the smallest of the school, I'll slip the spear into the water over the biggest fish. Sometimes if they're biting well, they wont leave the hole so I leave him on the bottom and take a few better fish by hook. My cousin and I took 3 by hook with the nicest stuck to the bottom....God I love Ice Fishing!!!:)

[neil duffey]

The video after the spearing vid. where the guys drilling holes and there playing hot for teacher in the background,,,,if you dont die laughing theres something wrong with you! Good stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOnWr4iHli8&NR=1

i dont get it:confused::(